Brady Tkachuk vs Mitch Marner

[Silky Johnson]

To be better than the Sens?? Are you f***ing kidding me?

How about the Sens get in the playoffs before criticizing the way the Leafs play when they’re in there

Yeah, the Sens were a OT goal away from the final in 2017. Then they went into a full rebuild with no expectations of playoffs until this or next season.

When were the leafs last that successful? 1993?

All teams go through cycles. But not being able to win a playoff series with your best roster in 3 decades is...a special type of sad.

All NHL fans have the moral authority to criticise the leafs.

 

[Notsince67]

Unlike Marner.

Yup. And one day it's possible that Marner will be on a team as bad as Ottawa and prove that he is a potential playoff warrior just like Brady.

 

[NyQuil]

Yup. And one day it's possible that Marner will be on a team as bad as Ottawa and prove that he is a potential playoff warrior just like Brady.

Can't put the playoff disappointment genie back in the bottle, unfortunately.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Brady had a xg% of 26.68% tonight. Marner couldn't be that bad if he was drunk and stoned at the same time. Honestly...this thread is a joke.

Thread is a joke yet here we are no? Must be anti leafs bias that people don't want the small weaker guy who doesn't stand up for his teammates , even if he produces more

 

[Notsince67]

Thread is a joke yet here we are no? Must be anti leafs bias that people don't want the small weaker guy who doesn't stand up for his teammates , even if he produces more

Sorry...thought this was a hockey discussion. Go ahead and value Brady over McDavid for all I care. Just don't be shocked if people perceive the notion as idiotic.

 

[MCR74]

Yeah, the Sens were a OT goal away from the final in 2017. Then they went into a full rebuild with no expectations of playoffs until this or next season.

When were the leafs last that successful? 1993?

All teams go through cycles. But not being able to win a playoff series with your best roster in 3 decades is...a special type of sad.

All NHL fans have the moral authority to criticise the leafs.

Who cares? What does that have to do with Tkachuk?

After they went to the ECF (which was supposedly due to Karlsson alone), Karlsson nuked the team with all his drama. The Leafs may have been bad, but they didn't have to put up with that shit.

When Brady actually accomplishes something, I'm sure we'll hear about it.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Who cares? What does that have to do with Tkachuk?

After they went to the ECF (which was supposedly due to Karlsson alone), Karlsson nuked the team with all his drama. The Leafs may have been bad, but they didn't have to put up with that shit.

When Brady actually accomplishes something, I'm sure we'll hear about it.

I as a fan care that my team does well in the playoffs...watching long playoff runs is the best part of hockey, but you wouldn't know that.

I wasn't responding to a comment about Tkachuk.

Sens nuked themselves with the Duchene trade and walking Stone right to FA. Karlsson drama? Not signing him to a huge contract was the right call. How is that drama? The return was great and Karlsson got paid. Both sides won. If you don't follow the Sens...why make comments like that?

Leafs have lacked much in the way of accomplishments for a very long time and fans have had to put up with all kinds of shit...

Brady and Marner will both have great careers.

 

[NyQuil]

Sorry...thought this was a hockey discussion. Go ahead and value Brady over McDavid for all I care. Just don't be shocked if people perceive the notion as idiotic.

Why on Earth would I do that?

Marner and McDavid are not in the same stratosphere.

Nice attempt though.

 

[DevilsHughes86]

I'd take Marner but I wouldn't mind having Brady and his nasty tough play of his

 

[Notsince67]

Why on Earth would I do that?

Marner and McDavid are not in the same stratosphere.

Nice attempt though.

Marner and Tkachuk aren't in the same stratosphere yet you have no problem citing smaller size in that case to make a dumb point. Faced with a player who is only 12 lbs heavier than Marner though and the argument breaks down because it would be downright embarrassing to attempt to apply the same point in the case of McDavid.
Why don't you stick with accomplishments instead of nebulas attributes that have translated to zero team success.

 

[ER89]

Yeah, the Sens were a OT goal away from the final in 2017. Then they went into a full rebuild with no expectations of playoffs until this or next season.

When were the leafs last that successful? 1993?

All teams go through cycles. But not being able to win a playoff series with your best roster in 3 decades is...a special type of sad.

All NHL fans have the moral authority to criticise the leafs.

Nah the sens don't. Y'all have gotten bitch slapped by the leafs every.single.time.

 

[Bileur]

Marner and Tkachuk aren't in the same stratosphere yet you have no problem citing smaller size in that case to make a dumb point. Faced with a player who is only 12 lbs heavier than Marner though and the argument breaks down because it would be downright embarrassing to attempt to apply the same point in the case of McDavid.
Why don't you stick with accomplishments instead of nebulas attributes that have translated to zero team success.

It has nothing to do with size.

Marchand is shorter and lighter than Marner. Nobody would ever question his compete or desire to show up for his teammates.

Nobody would ever be left wondering if Marchand took the long way to a loose puck to avoid a hit.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Nah the sens don't. Y'all have gotten bitch slapped by the leafs every.single.time.

You guys don't make the playoffs enough to meet our good teams.

1967-2023 56 years of misery.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Yeah, the Sens were a OT goal away from the final in 2017. Then they went into a full rebuild with no expectations of playoffs until this or next season.

When were the leafs last that successful? 1993?

All teams go through cycles. But not being able to win a playoff series with your best roster in 3 decades is...a special type of sad.

All NHL fans have the moral authority to criticise the leafs.

When Ottawa was in the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals, they had not even drafted Tkachuk at that time, that happened 1 year later in the 2018.

The fact they were that close to a Stanley Cup Final and became a joke of a franchise in such a short order is not something I want to brag about.

 

[ER89]

You guys don't make the playoffs enough to meet our good teams.

1967-2023 56 years of misery.

yeah but we still pay for your poverty franchise so..

 

[LeafsNation75]

Unlike Marner.

Here are some of Marner's playoff goals and assists he's recorded for the Leafs. Feel free to post Brady's playoff highlights, oh wait I forgot those don't exist.

 

[NyQuil]

Here are some of Marner's playoff goals and assists he's recorded for the Leafs. Feel free to post Brady's playoff highlights, oh wait I forgot those don't exist.

Here are some of the great handshake lines he's been a part of after not contributing significantly when facing elimination:

 

[LeafsNation75]

Here are some of the great handshake lines he's been a part of after not contributing significantly when facing elimination:

Maybe Brady will be lucky to be in a handshake line when the Senators lose in the playoffs, if they can ever make it back to the playoffs.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Fan A says Marner is better Fan B says Brady is better. guess we just have to settle with a good ol fashioned agree to disagree
not even sure why this is a thread.....

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Yeah, the Sens were a OT goal away from the final in 2017. Then they went into a full rebuild with no expectations of playoffs until this or next season.

When were the leafs last that successful? 1993?

All teams go through cycles. But not being able to win a playoff series with your best roster in 3 decades is...a special type of sad.

All NHL fans have the moral authority to criticise the leafs.

think they lost to Carolina in the conference finals in like 02

Leafs were a dumpster fire when the salary cap first started. they had like 63m which was alot back then and had to cut down to 39m that along with trading all their prospects/picks trying to win prior to the salary cap put them on an extremely dark path but back at that time it was normal for the Leafs to do something in the playoffs. lost to Carolina in the Conference Finals and then lost to Philly twice in the 2nd round.

all teams do go through cycles but when you been gutted that badly and all your top players are refusing to waive their NTC to help the rebuild it didnt make things easier at all. that and a complete joke of a scouting staff didnt help anything

as for not winning now, there are no excuses for it. they just gotta figure out a way to get it done

 

[NyQuil]

Maybe Brady will be lucky to be in a handshake line when the Senators lose in the playoffs, if they can ever make it back to the playoffs.

If they miss the playoffs eight years in a row and then lose in the first round six years in a row then I’ll be concerned.

 

[LeafsNation75]

think they lost to Carolina in the conference finals in like 02

Yes, they lost to Carolina in the 2002 Eastern Conference Finals.

Prior to that they lost to Buffalo in the 1999 Eastern Conference Finals. Then in 2000 and 2001 they lost to New Jersey in the second round.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If they miss the playoffs eight years in a row and then lose in the first round six years in a row then I’ll be concerned.

Id be concerned if Ottawa isn't getting into playoff territory as early as next or the following season. alot of their core is signed long term.
They should have been challenging for a spot this year or at the very least a wild card position.

 

[Judas Tavares]

This is cute lmao. Lots of spankings!

 

[NyQuil]

They should have been challenging for a spot this year or at the very least a wild card position.

Agreed. They've had some bad luck and adversity but that's not an excuse.