Proposal: Brady Tkachuk to New York Rangers
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Wondercarrot
By The Power of Canadian Tire Centre
- Jul 2, 2002
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yeah I can understand how if you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears, then dance around yelling nah nah nah nah I can’t hear you - that it helps you purposefully misunderstand everything everyone is saying.
At this point you should take this up with Larry Brooks who disagrees with you about the story HE wrote.
Team_Spirit
95% Elliotte
- Jul 3, 2002
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The claim they had no INTERNAL discussion about BT is unbelievable. It's their job to consider potential trades.
We all know he's the NHL network official trade guy why present him as a ESPN personality like he has a regular show on there? Literally league PR.
We all know he's the NHL network official trade guy why present him as a ESPN personality like he has a regular show on there? Literally league PR.
It’s some just idiots, bumbling about trading Brady Tkachuk. Ottawa got a decent core. They just need a coach that can implement a good system, that fits the team.
Wondercarrot
By The Power of Canadian Tire Centre
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They need consistent goaltending. Literally that is all they need…
Ullmark has started to play well and they win those games - Forsberg starts last game and gives up 3 goals on TWELVE shots. You just can’t win games with that.
With league average goaltending they are comfortably in a playoff spot.
Their shots against are way down, expected goals are way down…they are playing mostly pretty good hockey.
I may have gotten that post # wrong, sorry.
here is pertinent extract of 3 way
as you see the numbers are more than close enuf
have bolded for yr conv
Rs - Sens-Devs
Devs get: from OTT: Tkachuk from NY: Panarin 5.6+ ret. to 6 x 2
Devs give: to OTT: Palat, Mercer, Haula, Nemec
to NY: rights to Silayev NJ 2026 2nd + NJ 2027 1st
ballpark 2024 cap
out: Palat 6, Mercer 4, Haula 3.1, Nemec elc <1, (rounded to 1) = 14.1
in: Tkachuk 8.2, Panarin 6 = 14.2
cap result virtually even
Sens get: from NJ : Palat, Mercer, Haula, Nemec
from NY: LaF + Fox + Gabe Perreault
Sens give: to NJ : Tkachuk to NY: Sanderson + Batherson + Pinto + Kleven + Grieg
ballpark 2024 cap
out: Tkachuk 8.2, Sanderson 8+, Batherson, 4.9+, Pinto 3.7, Kleven* elc < 1 + Grieg * elc < 1
in: Palat 6, Mercer 4, Haula 3.1, Nemec elc <1, (rounded to 1)
LaF 2.3* + Fox 9.5 + Gabe Perreault elc <1, (rounded to 1)
{* LaF extension next yr kicks in 7.4+; Kleven and Grieg are rounded}
above = 14.1 from NJ + 12.8 from NY = 26.9 total in
above = 8.2 to NJ + 18.6 to NY = 26.8 total in
cap result virtually even
Rs get: from NJ : rights to Silayev NJ 2026 2nd + NJ 2027 1st
from Sens: Sanderson, Batherson, Pinto, Kleven, Grieg
Rs give: to NJ : Panarin 5.6+ ret. to 6 x 2 to Sens: LaF, Fox, Gabe P
ballpark 2024 cap
out: Panarin* 6 + LaF 2.3* + Fox 9.5 + Gabe P elc <1, (rounded to 1) = 18.8
in: Sand. 8+, Bath. 4.9+, Pinto 3.7, Kleven, Grieg both rounded 1@ = 18.6
cap result virtually even
*ny continues to eat 5.6+ cap this season + next retained salary on bread
Rationale(s)
Jersey upgrades status to legit contender. No waiting on Tkachuk. Add season and a half of retained bread makes F group formidable. Loss of RD prospects = wince, but Nemec atm in the A and Silayev not even signed atm.
Sens swap high end first pair, but add RD in process, further RD with Nemec. LaF = huge fan get, local kid 1OA. Gabe P similar, huge upside ready next yr mitigates loss of Fs. Higher end salary out, useful pieces in. Surrender of Kleven is a wince and both Pinto + Grieg makes pivot thin, but that is short term. Overall, good value and a win going forward.
Rs get 1LD anchor in Sanderson albeit for a high price. Pinto + Kleven are keepers. + Grieg and Batherson flipped usefully
HuGort
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Rangers made a mistake when they rebuilt. They didn't go low enough to get a star. Now trying to acquire one.
Most rebuilds aren't successful if they don't get a star. Odds much more better if they do anyway
Most rebuilds aren't successful if they don't get a star. Odds much more better if they do anyway
Rangers signed panarin and Adam fox forced his way there. That shesterkin guy is pretty good also
Pavlikovsky
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They lucked into a 2nd and 1st overall pick I don't know how you pick lower than that.
I'd say it has to do with their drafting, and player development. They whiffed hard on Lias Andersson, and Vitali Kravtsov. I don't know where the blame lies on Kakko's development, but something went wrong there.
They did something right in 2020 tho with Laf, Schneider, Cuylle, Rempe
Jerzey Devil
Jerzey-Duz-It
They just didn’t spend enough time on the rebuild. They got a couple of high draft picks and had a pretty decent group of players already established so they rolled with it.
The other option would have been trading off more of the established players for draft picks and spend more time at the bottom.
But they’ve been pretty successful over the past few years so who’s to say it was the wrong decision? If they end up not winning a cup you can’t really be too upset because they got pretty close.
frightenedinmatenum2
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They didn't need to go on a long rebuild because they already had a few relatively young stars to build around before the rebuild started, Fox, Panarin, Zibanejad and Shesterkin.
The rebuild was also expedited by getting two top picks that quite frankly, they didn't deserve. Neither of those pick worked out as expected, if they did, the Rangers would be a contender right now. They still got another star player in Lafreniere, who was an important piece to their playoff run last year.
They did not need to do a full scale rebuild because they are a destination team for free agents. Getting Panarin+Fox both wanting to sign there significantly expedited any rebuild or re-tool. (They had to trade for the rights to Fox, but he chose New York.)
