Proposal: Brady Tkachuk to New York Rangers

[FlyguyOX]

As someone who despises both teams:

Tkachuck for Lafrenière as a base seems fair to me
Maybe a small add from NYR but no 1st or anything like this

Lafrenière have the better upsides while Tkachuck brings more to the table

NYR would ABSOLUTELY have to add AT LEAST a 1st.

Tkachuk is a team captain and brings a shit ton of intangibles that barely any other player in the league brings. Laf is not unique like that.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Staios apparently went around the league last season and gauged the value of all his assets. It was presented as a formality. But if true, it looks like it might have been a smart way to figure out the market for Brady just in case, without having to actually "shop" him.

So it wouldn't surprise me if they were able to put together a Brady trade quickly. If they think Brady is unhappy, they have to strongly consider moving him before July 1st when his NMC kicks in. If the Rangers offer them a package that they know is at the top of the market value for Brady, there is no reason to wait. The season as it is now is statistically improbable not to be over. Maybe they get a bit of a boost from shaking up the roster, and it gives them 50 or so games to start gelling so that in 2026 we can pretend they won't collapse again at the start of the season.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

NYR would ABSOLUTELY have to add AT LEAST a 1st.

Tkachuk is a team captain and brings a shit ton of intangibles that barely any other player in the league brings. Laf is not unique like that.

Brady, JBD, Boucher for Lafreniere, Kakko, Lindgren, 1st.

Boucher could be a throw in/mercy kill for optics. They Rangers can sell that they got a reclamation project who they had in the top 10 of his draft year. He has the tools to be a checking fourth liner, but that isn't even guaranteed at this point. They can send him to an org' who might value him enough to take their time with another pro season or two before moving on, and there isn't the baggage of being a high pick.

Rangers fans want to sell like the difference between Lafreniere and Brady isn't high, but they mostly look at a ceiling that Lafreniere has yet to consistently meet (except for last year's playoffs). The reality is that Brady is a top 25 goal scorer in the entire league over the past few years, and you can multiply the value of that due to him being a power forward. Development is never linear, and Lafreniere could find another gear and be a gritty 100 point forward, but at 23 years old it becomes a lot more difficult to sell a trade package on potential.

The main reason Ottawa would be interested in Lafreniere might be that it is the closest to a plug and play proposition, and he would be a hugely popular name in the market that might help them with some of the negative backlash for trading Brady, who is probably #2 most popular to the kids behind Spartacat. The new ownership is trying to reach out to the Francophone market (Gatineau, Orleans). Adding one of the most popular Francophone players to come into the league in a long time might go a long way to helping with that.

Sens also need a 1st, because they may have to give up their 1st this year. If they end up in the 6th-16th type ballpark, there would be a compelling argument to give up the 1st and not risk giving the NHL the pick that could be Gavin McKenna. This management claimed to want less chaos in the marketplace. Nothing would be more chaotic than having a losing team in 2025-26 and no 1st round draft pick during a very hyped draft.

 

[Devilsfan118]

Brady's destined to be a Devil so this conversation is kinda moot.

 

[LuckyPierre]

Staios apparently went around the league last season and gauged the value of all his assets. It was presented as a formality. But if true, it looks like it might have been a smart way to figure out the market for Brady just in case, without having to actually "shop" him.

So it wouldn't surprise me if they were able to put together a Brady trade quickly. If they think Brady is unhappy, they have to strongly consider moving him before July 1st when his NMC kicks in. If the Rangers offer them a package that they know is at the top of the market value for Brady, there is no reason to wait. The season as it is now is statistically improbable not to be over. Maybe they get a bit of a boost from shaking up the roster, and it gives them 50 or so games to start gelling so that in 2026 we can pretend they won't collapse again at the start of the season.

If I'm Steve Staios, I'd wait for the offseason before pushing ahead on a Brady transaction. No need to rush from his POV, and it would make the Rangers squirm the longer they go without a true leadership structure on their roster.

Brady is likely to set personal highs in terms of production too, and a push for a wildcard would boost his value, while another non-playoff year wouldn't take away from it.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Brady, JBD, Boucher for Lafreniere, Kakko, Lindgren, 1st.

Boucher could be a throw in/mercy kill for optics. They Rangers can sell that they got a reclamation project who they had in the top 10 of his draft year. He has the tools to be a checking fourth liner, but that isn't even guaranteed at this point. They can send him to an org' who might value him enough to take their time with another pro season or two before moving on, and there isn't the baggage of being a high pick.

Rangers fans want to sell like the difference between Lafreniere and Brady isn't high, but they mostly look at a ceiling that Lafreniere has yet to consistently meet (except for last year's playoffs). The reality is that Brady is a top 25 goal scorer in the entire league over the past few years, and you can multiply the value of that due to him being a power forward. Development is never linear, and Lafreniere could find another gear and be a gritty 100 point forward, but at 23 years old it becomes a lot more difficult to sell a trade package on potential.

The main reason Ottawa would be interested in Lafreniere might be that it is the closest to a plug and play proposition, and he would be a hugely popular name in the market that might help them with some of the negative backlash for trading Brady, who is probably #2 most popular to the kids behind Spartacat. The new ownership is trying to reach out to the Francophone market (Gatineau, Orleans). Adding one of the most popular Francophone players to come into the league in a long time might go a long way to helping with that.

Sens also need a 1st, because they may have to give up their 1st this year. If they end up in the 6th-16th type ballpark, there would be a compelling argument to give up the 1st and not risk giving the NHL the pick that could be Gavin McKenna. This management claimed to want less chaos in the marketplace. Nothing would be more chaotic than having a losing team in 2025-26 and no 1st round draft pick during a very hyped draft.

More like Laf Kakko Miller for Tkachuk

 

[red devil]

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Brady's destined to be a Devil so this conversation is kinda moot.

New Jersey is like New York's Gatineau, so he could still go to New York and his wife would be back in New Jersey.

I think that New York would have the edge to get him because they could easily move Lafreniere+++ to get Tkachuk, and the Devils don't have a single piece that is anywhere near as compelling for the Senators marketplace. They have better players than Lafreniere, but they aren't moving them is the point.

NYR also have a lot more moving pieces right now. The Devils may not want to gut their roster to make the cap work in season with how well they are playing. The Rangers are already in the process of a highly publicized retool.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Lafreniere and a slight add for BT . Seems like a fair deal for both clubs . At some point BT will want out and best to trade before it comes to that I think. Sens get a skilled kind of local guy with lots of upside and Rangers get a truculent player they desperately need . Each would likely then become leaders of their new clubs . I can see it helping both clubs ....if Sens get the right +/add in the deal . Hopefully they can get it ironed out .so it helps both teams .

More than slight add, unless the Senators misplay things.

Brady isn't a rental. He has three years of term and no active trade protection. He is also signed at a great cap hit. He'd be a 9.5M-11.5M player as a UFA depending on the team.

It's always possible they misplay things and sell for pennies on the dollar, but I doubt it. If he goes to the Rangers anytime soon it's because they put an offer on the table that was so strong that the Senators couldn't risk waiting until the summer to deal Brady.

 

[n8]

If Brady is verifiably named in a potential trade and doesn't get traded, that would be not great for the team so of course they have to put something like this out into the world. I mean, that's pretty much the situation with Trouba right now.

 

[Redpath]

Wrong thread

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Baghdad Bob Garrioch

 

[SensFactor]

Brady's destined to be a Devil so this conversation is kinda moot.

Sure thing Bratt would be wonderful return package

 

[SNES]

If Brady is verifiably named in a potential trade and doesn't get traded, that would be not great for the team so of course they have to put something like this out into the world. I mean, that's pretty much the situation with Trouba right now.

Brady is a wet dream for Ranger fans and always was

 

[SensFactor]

More like Laf Kakko Miller for Tkachuk

Thats awful lol... more like Fox or Kreider

 

[red devil]

 

[HuGort]

You get Whoppers at Burger King

 

[Trxjw]

I love seeing Brooks get dunked on. Even as a Rangers fan.

 

[Xspyrit]

That was you Hunting down that big NYR package.

haha ok but in case you missed it, I was totally sarcastic. I would take that Wild offer over Kreider + Kakko 100 times out of 100

Yeah that will help the Rangers get to the playoffs, the guy that has never led a team to one in his 7 NHL seasons

He was the first draft pick of a scorched earth rebuild where 100% of the players were gone within 2 seasons.

He has completed 6 seasons not 7 and was he supposed to lead a rebuilding team to the playoffs in only 6 years?

Now of course I think the Sens should be a playoffs team by now if they had a moderately competent GM. I think that's unseen that you have players like Karlsson, Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Pageau, Brassard, Dzingel all in their PRIME for trade. This team should have been more competitive since 2021-22 after that 2020 draft where they got Stutzle, Sanderson, Greig, Kleven and 2 more 2nd round picks.

All that said, not really a Tkachuk fan and I don't really enjoy defending him but I'm not blaming him at all for the team results. I blame the GM/coach they were stuck with for years.

 

[le_sean]

haha ok but in case you missed it, I was totally sarcastic. I would take that Wild offer over Kreider + Kakko 100 times out of 100



He was the first draft pick of a scorched earth rebuild where 100% of the players were gone within 2 seasons.

He has completed 6 seasons not 7 and was he supposed to lead a rebuilding team to the playoffs in only 6 years?

Now of course I think the Sens should be a playoffs team by now if they had a moderately competent GM. I think that's unseen that you have players like Karlsson, Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Pageau, Brassard, Dzingel all in their PRIME for trade. This team should have been more competitive since 2021-22 after that 2020 draft where they got Stutzle, Sanderson, Greig, Kleven and 2 more 2nd round picks.

All that said, not really a Tkachuk fan and I don't really enjoy defending him but I'm not blaming him at all for the team results. I blame the GM/coach they were stuck with for years.

Rebuild was over 4 years ago. Words of the GM. He’s led them to nothing.

 

[SensFactor]

 

[Svechhammer]

Are you saying that Larry Brooks was caught lying again?

Why I never

 

[Golden_Jet]

Staios apparently went around the league last season and gauged the value of all his assets. It was presented as a formality. But if true, it looks like it might have been a smart way to figure out the market for Brady just in case, without having to actually "shop" him.

So it wouldn't surprise me if they were able to put together a Brady trade quickly. If they think Brady is unhappy, they have to strongly consider moving him before July 1st when his NMC kicks in. If the Rangers offer them a package that they know is at the top of the market value for Brady, there is no reason to wait. The season as it is now is statistically improbable not to be over. Maybe they get a bit of a boost from shaking up the roster, and it gives them 50 or so games to start gelling so that in 2026 we can pretend they won't collapse again at the start of the season.

Staois already said he’s not moving Brady, and called any rumours utter BS.

Haha and now Mendes has chimed in.

As Torts would say, hey Brooksie you can get the …… outta here.

 

[DackellDuck]

In fairness to Brooks, he never said Ottawa has talked to the Rangers about Tkachuk. He said the Rangers want Tkachuk.

This sounds like NBA style tampering. The Rangers are trying to plant the idea in Brady's head... you can play for the biggest American franchise... be the centrepiece of the team and captain... sit in Celebrity Row at Knicks games... live close to your wife's family in NJ...

It's not secret that Brady has a NMC kicking in in July and the Tkachuks are no strangers to pulling power plays on their teams.

The Sens can deny it, but they have to sniff out Tkachuk's intentions as best they can. If he asks out on July 2nd... that's trouble.

 

[Devilsfan118]

New Jersey is like New York's Gatineau, so he could still go to New York and his wife would be back in New Jersey.

I think that New York would have the edge to get him because they could easily move Lafreniere+++ to get Tkachuk, and the Devils don't have a single piece that is anywhere near as compelling for the Senators marketplace. They have better players than Lafreniere, but they aren't moving them is the point.

NYR also have a lot more moving pieces right now. The Devils may not want to gut their roster to make the cap work in season with how well they are playing. The Rangers are already in the process of a highly publicized retool.

I think Nemec + Mercer + is an interesting starting point for the discussion, though totally fair that Laf, if on the market, is certainly an interesting piece for the Sens who carries a ton of value.