Proposal: Brady Tkachuk to New York Rangers

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The story we've seen since he has been drafted is how he doesn't want to be in Ottawa, but for some reason he signed a long term extension and is still in Ottawa. Maybe one day the group of people who don't want to see Brady in Ottawa will get there way, but probably not going to be today.

If Ottawa were to move him and that's the offer from NY, they will just look else where. Pretty simple.
Possibly. But didn’t Rick Nash have a long term contract with Columbus and then force a trade to the Rangers? He got sick of losing. Maybe Brady is too in Ottawa.

As I understand it, the Senators farm system ranks pretty low in terms of talent. Since they are losing with Brady, does it make sense to trade him and restock the farm with young talent and draft choices? I am not 100% saying Ottawa should…I am sure their fans are frustrated. But maybe they should have a discussion about doing it.
 

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Possibly. But didn’t Rick Nash have a long term contract with Columbus and then force a trade to the Rangers? He got sick of losing. Maybe Brady is too in Ottawa.

As I understand it, the Senators farm system ranks pretty low in terms of talent. Since they are losing with Brady, does it make sense to trade him and restock the farm with young talent and draft choices? I am not 100% saying Ottawa should…I am sure their fans are frustrated. But maybe they should have a discussion about doing it.

Obviously no one in the management team would admit that but I think they are 200% having these discussions at this stage.

1) Tkachuk has 3 years left on his deal after this one and his NMC kicks in next summer. He has full control of his future at that point and Sens will have to trade him for pennies on the dollar if they keep him past the summer.

His value on the trade market will be higher than his on-ice value. The organization needs to look at that seriously because it’s a guarantee that he won’t re-sign here after his deal expires. Sens need to knock this one out of the park and they need to get everything they can.

2) As you mentioned, the team has nothing coming up in the pipeline. They likely have a top 10-12 pick this year again and they won’t have their pick in 2026. The team likely won’t get much better than they are now. Giroux is getting older and is a key piece too.

3) The team is still not in the playoffs with Brady and extremely far from being a contender. They need to build around Stutzle and Sanderson. Tkachuk is the logical trade here.

I’m a Sens fan and I love Brady but I truly believe he gets dealt at some point after the season to the highest bidder. Seeing how this team is playing and how things are shaking up I see no reasonable expectation for Tkachuk to want to stay in Ottawa and that creates urgency around his NMC where he will have full control. I say 80% chance he’s traded before July 1rst 2025.
 

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1. Hence our disagreement. I would say the opposite. Laf has a lot to prove yet, and Brady is an all-star add right now. I think that matters. I also think you're overvaluing a middle six and a late 1st addition in the context of a deal like this, and which team appears more motivated to make the deal, if it were to happen now.

2. You're right about the NMC but you still conjected made up dialogue about him to make it sound worse (and Zib, but that's irrelevant here). This matters when the time comes if he makes those demands, but you don't crater the value anticipating that. The NYR of all teams aren't going in to it with this concern and any team making the deal is getting his blessing before the league call. They aren't trading him to Columbus or Winnipeg.

This is all moot now because he isn't being traded in season and your value assessment seems predicated on worst case scenario that has yet to happen, if at all. The Senators also wouldn't be in a vacuum negotiating with 1 team. Tkachuk is a desirable player, especially at his salary in a rising cap environment and basically entering his prime for any team that would be acquiring him. On pace for 40 goals this year after 3 straight 30 increases of 30, 35, 37. If NYR wanted to make the trade right now today with no trade request from Chuck, ya, I think I'm being reasonable. The Senators aren't trading their captain without a trade demand for mainly 1 guy that can't fill his shows right now, nor for a collection of non needle movers.
This was overall a pleasant, civil exchange
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we agree to disagree
any further analysis likely = rehash
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Perreault is one of the best prospects in hockey. While yes certainly other teams have similar caliber prospects, maybe only half of the teams in the league do, and most of those teams are rebuilding and unlikely to let them go.

He is a great prospect. But he's also just that. Plenty of teams can offer up potential in a deal. But you're not trading Tkachuk for potential right now if you're the Sens.

I stand by my assertion that plenty of teams could out bid the Rangers right now.
 

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So now their owner is whining about something that obviously occurred?

Why not just do a better job of convincing your player you want him to stay or if you care so much about making it known you aren’t talking to other teams about Tkachuk to not do so?

What a clown comment. The owner of the Senators is literally asking journalists to be silenced because reportedly true information about his team was published.
 

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So now their owner is whining about something that obviously occurred?

Why not just do a better job of convincing your player you want him to stay or if you care so much about making it known you aren’t talking to other teams about Tkachuk to not do so?

What a clown comment. The owner of the Senators is literally asking journalists to be silenced because reportedly true information about his team was published.
It’s made up BS, even clowns know this 🤣
That’s why.
It obviously never happened, and now we’re calling out your made up BS.

Hopefully Dolan and Brooksie get told.

Close thread mods,

obviously he’s not available, there isn’t much more Senators can say, after GM and owners speak, and call this all utter made up BS garbage. We have hockey insiders calling it garbage, and we have one guy Brooksie saying Rangers would be interested in said player.
 

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It’s made up BS, even clowns know this 🤣
That’s why.
It obviously never happened, and now we’re calling out your made up BS.

Hopefully Dolan and Brooksie get told.

Close thread mods,

obviously he’s not available, there isn’t much more Senators can say, after GM and owners speak, and call this all utter made up BS garbage. We have hockey insiders calling it garbage, and we have one guy Brooksie saying Rangers would be interested in said player.
Elliotte Friedman reported that they were talking the day before Brooks provided us with the name of the player they were discussing. Elliotte has continuously said the Sens are very sensitive about it getting out when they've had discussions with other teams about some of their big name players.
 
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Elliotte Friedman reported that they were talking the day before Brooks provided us with the name of the player they were discussing. Elliotte has continuously said the Sens are very sensitive about it getting out when they've had discussions with other teams about some of their big name players.
As you’ve been told 1000x they weren’t talking about Brady, Trouba was on the block, teams discussed Trouba. Rangers called most teams.
 
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Elliotte Friedman reported that they were talking the day before Brooks provided us with the name of the player they were discussing. Elliotte has continuously said the Sens are very sensitive about it getting out when they've had discussions with other teams about some of their big name players.
please tell me where friedman said they talked about brady
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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As you’ve been told 1000x they weren’t talking about Brady, Trouba was on the block, teams discussed Trouba. Rangers called most teams.
Trouba to teams in Canada has been a non-starter, so I highly doubt that.

please tell me where friedman said they talked about brady
I didn't say he said they were talking about Tkachuk. I said he said the teams were talking. This was the day before Larry Brooks named the player they were talking about. Elliotte Friedman didn't name who they were talking about. Just said they were talking and Ottawa didn't want it to get out. It's in his most recent blog on the Sportsnet website.
 

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Trouba to teams in Canada has been a non-starter, so I highly doubt that.


I didn't say he said they were talking about Tkachuk. I said he said the teams were talking. This was the day before Larry Brooks named the player they were talking about. Elliotte Friedman didn't name who they were talking about. Just said they were talking and Ottawa didn't want it to get out. It's in his most recent blog on the Sportsnet website.
yeah friedman saying they were talking is one thing because there was the whole trouba public spectacle and ottawa has an old school coach so hitting means value

then their is brooks saying what he said which is vastly different. Plus friedman didnt say there was any sensitivity about any tkachuk rumors, there is just general sensitivity with trade talk especially since the previous group let everything slip lol

if you cant see the difference between what friedman said and what brooks said then i cant help you. but nice try skewing it and adding in facts to fit a narrative, props to you
 

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yeah friedman saying they were talking is one thing because there was the whole trouba public spectacle and ottawa has an old school coach so hitting means value

then their is brooks saying what he said which is vastly different. Plus friedman didnt say there was any sensitivity about any tkachuk rumors, there is just general sensitivity with trade talk especially since the previous group let everything slip lol

if you cant see the difference between what friedman said and what brooks said then i cant help you. but nice try skewing it and adding in facts to fit a narrative, props to you
I'm only putting 2 and 2 together. I didn't say Friedman confirmed they were talking about Tkachuk.

I don't believe for a second they were talking about Trouba. Because if they were, it seems like it would've went like this.

Ottawa: We're interested in Trouba.

New York: Terrific, but he literally won't play in Canada, so it's a pointless discussion.

Is that going to be what he's reporting as they were talking? If so, he's really milking his insider status for nothing.
 

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Just said they were talking and Ottawa didn't want it to get out. It's in his most recent blog on the Sportsnet website.
If they didn’t want it out, why did they admit it. 🤣🤣
Ottawa admitted they talked, but never discussed Brady, they said,
So more made up BS by yourself.
As they said they are building around him.

Oh wait you’re Brooksie, and are pissed 🤣🤣
 
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From another thread. Like everyone suspected.

As soon as the article came out the Rangers board laughed and said is was drury talking through brooks.
 
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So now their owner is whining about something that obviously occurred?

Why not just do a better job of convincing your player you want him to stay or if you care so much about making it known you aren’t talking to other teams about Tkachuk to not do so?

What a clown comment. The owner of the Senators is literally asking journalists to be silenced because reportedly true information about his team was published.
Lol how do you know it's true? Sounds like rangers tampering to me.
 

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yeah friedman saying they were talking is one thing because there was the whole trouba public spectacle and ottawa has an old school coach so hitting means value

then their is brooks saying what he said which is vastly different. Plus friedman didnt say there was any sensitivity about any tkachuk rumors, there is just general sensitivity with trade talk especially since the previous group let everything slip lol

if you cant see the difference between what friedman said and what brooks said then i cant help you. but nice try skewing it and adding in facts to fit a narrative, props to you
Poster doesn’t like facts, likes spewing BS.

The only player Sens would acquire about is Schneider, as Sens have some D injuries. Only player in their cap ballpark.
 

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