Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[Tuna99]

Alfie went through this - critiqued for not showing enough emotion. Brady is the opposite but Alfie can certainly help him in this regard

 

[CorrectOpinion]

I can look and see how other captains on this team carried themselves and performed and led on the ice as well as captains around the league.

No sports psychology degree but like many things in psychology it's common sense.

I like reading history in large part because I am fascinated by high performers and great leaders and one of the most common threads is that they all have a deep mental fortitude in their work.

They are able to control and channel their frustrations into positive results.

They are able to lead most effectively when they are willing to show the others what needs to be done and that they are willing to do it.

Brady gets a fail in these two traits so far.

A.) What he said in the media doesn't necessarily reflect how he leads in the room. But also you are basing your conclusions on 3 minute clips which is ridiculous.

B.) I still don't have a problem with literally anything Brady has said in the media. It was cool he had the nuts to call out the loser fans. And him speaking to his dissapointment with how the season going was merely human. If anything I would think the fans would appreciate it because we are on the same page. It means nothing in terms of how he approaches going forward.

C.) There is no indication he isn't properly channeling his frustrations into positive results. In the last presser he agrees the next game is a fresh start. He didn't say he was gonna give up. And also he always leads by example. He probably takes too much responsibility for what's going on.

D.) I think Brady's critics(including you) don't have a very nuanced view of his comments. In reality the boo-birds(no-class) and critics are incredibly dumb compared to Brady himself.

 

[Relapsing]

A.) What he said in the media doesn't necessarily reflect how he leads in the room. But also you are basing your conclusions on 3 minute clips which is ridiculous.

B.) I still don't have a problem with literally anything Brady has said in the media. It was cool he had the nuts to call out the loser fans. And him speaking to his dissapointment with how the season going was merely human. If anything I would think the fans would appreciate it because we are on the same page. It means nothing in terms of how he approaches going forward.

C.) There is no indication he isn't properly channeling his frustrations into positive results. In the last presser he agrees the next game is a fresh start. He didn't say he was gonna give up. And also he always leads by example. He probably takes too much responsibility for what's going on.

D.) I think Brady's critics(including you) don't have a very nuanced view of his comments. In reality the boo-birds(no-class) and critics are incredibly dumb compared to Brady himself.

A) you don't know what he's saying in the room either. None of us do. We work with what we got.

B) it was cool he had the nuts to call out fans while the team continued to suck? Low hanging fruit. If he pulled a Toews and called out the team instead then he'd have brass balls. Look inwards, not out. Calling out fans was and always will be lame when there is so much more blame to go around.

C) his body language and tone in that presser said otherwise. Total dejection and self pity.

D) heaven forbid fans voice their displeasure for paying their money to watch a team suck.

 

[ottawagm]

Brady has been a model of consistency offensively each and every year. He goes through one little slump and a few of the usual suspects jump on him?

Colour me shocked

I would be fine if he didn't call out the fans for complaining that the team and coaches were under performing.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

A.) What he said in the media doesn't necessarily reflect how he leads in the room. But also you are basing your conclusions on 3 minute clips which is ridiculous.

B.) I still don't have a problem with literally anything Brady has said in the media. It was cool he had the nuts to call out the loser fans. And him speaking to his dissapointment with how the season going was merely human. If anything I would think the fans would appreciate it because we are on the same page. It means nothing in terms of how he approaches going forward.

C.) There is no indication he isn't properly channeling his frustrations into positive results. In the last presser he agrees the next game is a fresh start. He didn't say he was gonna give up. And also he always leads by example. He probably takes too much responsibility for what's going on.

D.) I think Brady's critics(including you) don't have a very nuanced view of his comments. In reality the boo-birds(no-class) and critics are incredibly dumb compared to Brady himself.

You keep saying what brady said or his comments or 3 minute clips. none of what i said has much to do with that.

i don't give a shit what is said.

i am talking about on ice leadership, that is the real talk. that is where you show mental fortitude and leadership.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Imagine preaching about leadership and at the same time defending fans booing the team. It's total hypocrisy. What kind of leadership is that? People think booing is gonna motivate the guys? It probably does the opposite. They are already frustrated with how things are going. Trust me.

 

[Dionysus]

The whole team is having a tough go. Not living up to expectations, Brady is feeling the brunt of it.

I hope the fans come out tomorrow and support these guys, show them we want to see them succeed. There is a lot of trauma response in this fanbase. Insecurity flows from the team to the fans, but also the other way. Maybe it is time we step up and support the team where possible instead of tearing them down at every turn.

Tough to do when they keep blowing games, that is for sure. We ask the players to be better, same can be said for our fractured fanbase.

 

[Relapsing]

Here's hoping the captain processes what he's going through and comes out the other side flying. It's easy to get mired in how bad you're feeling and sink into it.... Depression is a bitch and he looked as depressed as I've seen a player look. Your first response is to blame everything around you as being in your way. Way harder to turn that feeling around this time of year and change your outlook.

As an obese, hunch backed depressed gremlin of a person, I know how hard it can be when you get in that funk.

 

[bert]

I can look and see how other captains on this team carried themselves and performed and led on the ice as well as captains around the league.

No sports psychology degree but like many things in psychology it's common sense.

I like reading history in large part because I am fascinated by high performers and great leaders and one of the most common threads is that they all have a deep mental fortitude in their work.

They are able to control and channel their frustrations into positive results.

They are able to lead most effectively when they are willing to show the others what needs to be done and that they are willing to do it.

Brady gets a fail in these two traits so far.

Imagine thinking this and yeah im right i know better. Wild. You are not in the room, you dont deal with these people on a day to day basis. You preach Karlsson as this incredible leader, this is a guy who barely worked out in the offseason. Is a very clicky person in general. He was and is an amazing talent who lead by being very good. He was not an exceptional leader otherwise but you seem to be obsessed with his leadership. Alfie was so much more and is way more similar to Brady than Karlsson.

Maybe some day you will be able to differentiate between on ice performance of play styles you like and leadership. Until then its all non sensicle alphabet soup. Look no further than you wanting Stutzle to be captain.

 

[ottawagm]

Imagine preaching about leadership and at the same time defending fans booing the team. It's total hypocrisy. What kind of leadership is that? People think booing is gonna motivate the guys? They are already frustrated with how things are going. Trust me.

They were booed around the same time as the leadership were telling the media that the coaching was great and that it wasn't time to panic. Clearly the fans were right.. the coaching was poor and it definitely was time to panic.

They are frustrated with the results, but they thought they were on the right track - bounces, effort, etc, rather than being told to do things that don't work. It was up to the fans, apparently, to tell them that the problem was the coaching that needed to be removed.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Imagine thinking this and yeah im right i know better. Wild. You are not in the room, you dont deal with these people on a day to day basis. You preach Karlsson as this incredible leader, this is a guy who barely worked out in the offseason. Is a very clicky person in general. He was and is an amazing talent who lead by being very good. He was not an exceptional leader otherwise but you seem to be obsessed with his leadership. Alfie was so much more and is way more similar to Brady than Karlsson.

Maybe some day you will be able to differentiate between on ice performance of play styles you like and leadership. Until then its all non sensicle alphabet soup. Look no further than you wanting Stutzle to be captain.

You know the play styles I like?

Being responsible and leading in all three zones of the ice.

Wow crazy trait for an NHL captain to have.

 

[bert]

They were booed around the same time as the leadership were telling the media that the coaching was great and that it wasn't time to panic. Clearly the fans were right.. the coaching was poor and it definitely was time to panic.

They are frustrated with the results, but they thought they were on the right track - bounces, effort, etc, rather than being told to do things that don't work. It was up to the fans, apparently, to tell them that the problem was the coaching that needed to be removed.

The leadership group did what it should do and protect its own. True terrible leadership would be throwing each other under the bus. Its not the players responsibility to make those changes.

Imagine preaching about leadership and at the same time defending fans booing the team. It's total hypocrisy. What kind of leadership is that? People think booing is gonna motivate the guys? They are already frustrated with how things are going. Trust me.

Bingo. Shows who has ever competed and who hasn't.

You know the play styles I like?

Being responsible and leading in all three zones of the ice.

Wow crazy trait for an NHL captain to have.

Yet you love Karlsson... THE IRONY. As amazing as he was his controller gets unplugged in is own zone as much as anyone. His immense talent makes up for it.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Here's hoping the captain processes what he's going through and comes out the other side flying. It's easy to get mired in how bad you're feeling and sink into it.... Depression is a bitch and he looked as depressed as I've seen a player look. Your first response is to blame everything around you as being in your way. Way harder to turn that feeling around this time of year and change your outlook.

As an obese, hunch backed depressed gremlin of a person, I know how hard it can be when you get in that funk.

You can't report and get my posts deleted and then refer back to them. What is that.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

He isn't producing but he isn't playing that poorly either.

 

[ottawagm]

The leadership group did what it should do and protect its own. True terrible leadership would be throwing each other under the bus. Its not the players responsibility to make those changes.


Bingo. Shows who has ever competed and who hasn't.


Yet you love Karlsson... THE IRONY. As amazing as he was his controller gets unplugged in is own zone as much as anyone. His immense talent makes up for it.

I don't think protecting your own at the expense of the fans opinions is right leadership.

Andlauer probably found out that the feeling of the 30 fans in 323 were the majority, rather than the minority, when it came to ticket sales for the holidays.

I know I wasn't looking forward to spending the rest of my Sens season credit if they had already given up on the year and weren't going to try to improve. I doubt many people were spending money on gifts to see them play poorly and blame paying fans for their results.

 

[Relapsing]

You can't report and get my posts deleted and then refer back to them. What is that.

LOL. Who's saying i was referring to your deleted post? Did you call me a gremlin? Any other correlation is pure speculation on your part, I'm sure.

Maybe don't personally insult people who are trying to talk hockey.

Merry Xmas

 

[CorrectOpinion]

LOL. Who's saying i was referring to your deleted post? Did you call me a gremlin? Any other correlation is pure speculation on your part, I'm sure.

Maybe don't personally insult people who are trying to talk hockey.

Merry Xmas

I made a harmless nonsensical joke

Happy Holidays

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

The leadership group did what it should do and protect its own. True terrible leadership would be throwing each other under the bus. Its not the players responsibility to make those changes.


Bingo. Shows who has ever competed and who hasn't.


Yet you love Karlsson... THE IRONY. As amazing as he was his controller gets unplugged in is own zone as much as anyone. His immense talent makes up for it.

take how disinterested Karlsson could sometimes look in his own zone. And multiply that several fold for Brady.

Also one of the things that made Karlsson special was that he could create opportunities from his own zone. a lot of his offense would come from plays he started in the defensive zone.

Contrast that to Brady cherry picking on blue lines and being lazy on the backcheck in hopes for another breakaway chance. And calling that inspirational leadership.

And not even finishing the breakaways he does cheat for lol.

Hopefully Brady can survive Martin.

 

[Relapsing]

I made a harmless nonsensical joke

Happy Holidays

Yeah I don't think you did.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Yeah I don't think you did.

I accused you of having suspect body language.

Happy Hanukkah

 

[Tuna99]

take how disinterested Karlsson could sometimes look in his own zone. And multiply that several fold for Brady.

Also one of the things that made Karlsson special was that he could create opportunities from his own zone, a lot of his offense would come from plays he started in the defensive zone.

Contrast that to Brady cherry picking on blue lines and being lazy on the backcheck in hopes for another breakaway chance.

And then not even finishing the breakaways he does cheat for lol.

Hopefully Brady can survive Martin.

chris Phillips was benched for tons of games and played half a season at LW under Jacques Martin - and Phillips is an Ottawa legend - Soezza, Havlat - Brady just a long line of players that need to round our their game

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

chris Phillips was benched for tons of games and played half a season at LW under Jacques Martin - and Phillips is an Ottawa legend - Soezza, Havlat - Brady just a long line of players that need to round our their game

What's funny is that when Brady does care about putting in an effort defensively he makes good defensive plays.

There was a diving interception he made last night that was incredible and just because he was giving an effort.

But that effort was missing 95 percent of the time since he was made captain and people call that incredible leadership. Wild.

 

[Relapsing]

I accused you of having suspect body language.

Happy Hanukkah

I don't want to risk a ban, so I'll just thank you for trying to gas lighting me twice and move on.

 

[DrEasy]

The whole team is having a tough go. Not living up to expectations, Brady is feeling the brunt of it.

I hope the fans come out tomorrow and support these guys, show them we want to see them succeed. There is a lot of trauma response in this fanbase. Insecurity flows from the team to the fans, but also the other way. Maybe it is time we step up and support the team where possible instead of tearing them down at every turn.

Tough to do when they keep blowing games, that is for sure. We ask the players to be better, same can be said for our fractured fanbase.

I agree; the team needs to know the fans are behind them, win or lose. I imagine at the game tomorrow the org will push the return of Jacques and Alfie behind the bench as opportunities for the fans to show support.

In fact I really want to go to the game tomorrow, but unfortunately it's not logistically possible for me right now...