Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[DueDiligence]

I loved his game last night. I was surprised by his post game just because I liked Ottawa’s push back and overall energy.

I get Brady is frustrated, but he has to control himself post game. He can’t be chirping the fans and being overly emotional when they lose. He’s to up and down to be a model of cocnistency that you need in a Captain.

Timmy should be stripped of his A IMO

I guess Brady should be more like Tavares. An uninspiring robot.

 

[bicboi64]

If he's going to be getting a buzz in Byward shouting we're going to win the cup, Captain Tkachuk needs to be able to handle the pressure when the team doesn't deliver.

He plays with a lot of high energy but still doesn't do much to help the team on each end of the ice. Whining to the media is such weak sauce energy.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

If he's going to be getting a buzz in Byward shouting we're going to win the cup, ....

That was indicative of one of the problems with this team... without ever having even made the playoffs, the young players really do (did?) think that they're great.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I loved Karlsson, defended his ability at every turn but this revisionism is spoiling the player for me. Karlsson constantly got a free pass from this fan base, despite years of failure when they were expected to be a playoff team. You think Alfredsson got plastered when Ottawa was competing against Edmonton for last place in the league? Spezza became a bit of scapegoat after wanting out and Stone was never captain.

The fun part is that Brady has statistically surprised limits you’ve placed upon him. You are so bad faith it’s hard to engage with you on the topic of this player.

What are you talking about. We were a budget team for the entirety of Karlssons tenure.

Never had close to the amount of talent this team has right now.

And still they never played as bad, mentally weak, poor leadership, childish hockey as this.

Like I think these guys might have set an NHL record for most multi goals lead blown in a week.
We are 3-4 years straight of being eliminated from the playoffs in the first two months.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

What is funny is that the same people who call Brady one of the best captains in the league think Karlsson was a bad captain.

Lol

This was Karlssons first year as captain.



Look at the difference in heart in Karlsson and his team and the current team.

 

[HSF]

What is funny is that the same people who call Brady one of the best captains in the league think Karlsson was a bad captain.

Lol

This was Karlssons first year as captain.



Look at the difference in heart in Karlsson and his team and the current team.

I dont think Brady lacks heart. People calling Brady one of the best captains are just out to lunch. Legendary captains are born in the playoffs.... like Karlsson and Alfie

I am glad Brady is captain here we need better coaching to show these guys

 

[Tuna99]

I guess Brady should be more like Tavares. An uninspiring robot.

More Brady should see the larger goal
In mind and realize when you speak you’re speaking for the team and the fans and not for yourself - ottawa did a lot of good last night and is on

 

[bicboi64]

I guess Brady should be more like Tavares. An uninspiring robot.

JT is a boring (and overpaid) robot, but not sure about uninspiring. He puts more effort on the ice than our captain does and doesn't complain to the media.

JT can handle the more difficult pressure of being captain of the centre of the universe than Brady handles Ottawa.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I dont think Brady lacks heart. People calling Brady one of the best captains are just out to lunch. Legendary captains are born in the playoffs.... like Karlsson and Alfie

I am glad Brady is captain here we need better coaching to show these guys

Heart includes mental and emotional discipline and being able to channel that into productive goals and outcomes.

Brady lacks in that regard. Let's frustrations get to him, let's pressure get to him.

He has physical courage and heart sure but lacks in the mental game.

 

[HSF]

Heart includes mental and emotional discipline and being able to channel that into productive goals and outcomes.

Brady lacks in that regard. Let's frustrations get to him.

He has physical courage and heart sure but lacks in the mental game.

that will come with maturity and coaching

Karlsson also would smash his stick and smash the bench door a little too much. Those are things that can be coached out of a player. We already are seeing less of it

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Heart includes mental and emotional discipline and being able to channel that into productive goals and outcomes.

Brady lacks in that regard. Let's frustrations get to him, let's pressure get to him.

He has physical courage and heart sure but lacks in the mental game.

Right. Cuz he doesn't meet your standards.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Right. Cuz he doesn't meet your standards.

Cuz he doesn't meet NHL standard.

 

[Relapsing]

One game where Brady backchecks and it's like a narrative flip in here.

I love the guy, don't get me wrong. But for years we've complained he doesn't play defense, doesn't backcheck, and regularly cheats zone exits. One game of correction doesn't make him immune from criticism. Having the most hits on the team doesn't mean shit to me anymore.

The timeline this year has been pretty wild. Fans boo the team and DJ. Brady calls fans out. Proceeds to not at all improve his play under the last coach. Hits a pretty solid slump. Coach gets fired. 2 games in with a new coach and he's talking about how bad he feels instead of what this team is gonna do to get out of the hole they've dug or apologize to the fans.

Who's he trying to appeal to? The fans that have paid good money and spent their personal time to watch this team lose for years and somehow be worse this year than last?

This is a put up or shut up league. As of today, this team, this leadership group, and this captain, have talked too much and done too little.

Oh how I long for the days when players actually earned big contracts later in their careers.

If it were up to me, everyone gets stripped of their letters once the new GM and coach comes in. Brady can earn it back if he wants to.

Heart includes mental and emotional discipline and being able to channel that into productive goals and outcomes.

Brady lacks in that regard. Let's frustrations get to him, let's pressure get to him.

He has physical courage and heart sure but lacks in the mental game.

And that mentality has seeped into the entire team. Idk who the chicken or the egg is in this scenario, but if part of the Captains job is to drag guys into the fight he sure can't seem to steady the boat so they can all row in the same direction.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Heart includes mental and emotional discipline and being able to channel that into productive goals and outcomes.

Brady lacks in that regard. Let's frustrations get to him, let's pressure get to him.

He has physical courage and heart sure but lacks in the mental game.

A mental game is not heart related.

 

[HSF]

One game where Brady backchecks and it's like a narrative flip in here.

I love the guy, don't get me wrong. But for years we've complained he doesn't play defense, doesn't backcheck, and regularly cheats zone exits. One game of correction doesn't make him immune from criticism. Having the most hits on the team doesn't mean shit to me anymore.

The timeline this year has been pretty wild. Fans boo the team and DJ. Brady calls fans out. Proceeds to not at all improve his play under the last coach. Hits a pretty solid slump. Coach gets fired. 2 games in with a new coach and he's talking about how bad he feels instead of what this team is gonna do to get out of the hole they've dug or apologize to the fans.

Who's he trying to appeal to? The fans that have paid good money and spent their personal time to watch this team lose for years and somehow be worse this year than last?

This is a put up or shut up league. As of today, this team, this leadership group, and this captain, have talked too much and done too little.

Oh how I long for the days when players actually earned big contracts later in their careers.

If it were up to me, everyone gets stripped of their letters once the new GM and coach comes in. Brady can earn it back if he wants to.


And that mentality has seeped into the entire team. Idk who the chicken or the egg is in this scenario, but if part of the Captains job is to drag guys into the fight he sure can't seem to steady the boat so they can all row in the same direction.

This all screams to me coaching

Brady's only coach has been DJ. These guys don't pay attention to details and got away with a lot.

That will change

 

[Relapsing]

This all screams to me coaching

Brady's only coach has been DJ. These guys don't pay attention to details and got away with a lot.

That will change

The on ice outcome screams mostly coaching. The attitude and headspace are all him.

I think most of us here can point to times in our lives where we had a shit manager, but still had to hold ourselves accountable at work. Still maintained our own personal standards of conduct and performance despite a lazy environment. I hope he learns to maintain his own standards soon because the coach isn't a negative factor anymore

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

A mental game is not heart related.

a strong mental game is all heart. mental fortitude is where all the rest comes from.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Cuz he doesn't meet NHL standard.

What do you know about it? He's the one who made the NHL and achieved captaincy.

a strong mental game is all heart. mental fortitude is where all the rest comes from.

What's your background in sports psychology? Because it appears to me you aren't saying anything.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

What do you know about it? He's the one who made the NHL and achieved captaincy.


What's your background in sports psychology? Because it appears to me you aren't saying anything.

I can look and see how other captains on this team carried themselves and performed and led on the ice as well as captains around the league.

No sports psychology degree but like many things in psychology it's common sense.

I like reading history in large part because I am fascinated by high performers and great leaders and one of the most common threads is that they all have a deep mental fortitude in their work.

They are able to control and channel their frustrations into positive results.

They are able to lead most effectively when they are willing to show the others what needs to be done and that they are willing to do it.

Brady gets a fail in these two traits so far.

 

[HF Reader]

What do you know about it? He's the one who made the NHL and achieved captaincy.


What's your background in sports psychology? Because it appears to me you aren't saying anything.

If he's going to be getting a buzz in Byward shouting we're going to win the cup, Captain Tkachuk needs to be able to handle the pressure when the team doesn't deliver.

He plays with a lot of high energy but still doesn't do much to help the team on each end of the ice. Whining to the media is such weak sauce energy.

I'm optimistic.

My amateur opinion is that Tkachuk will listen to Martin and Alfredsson and become one of the most valuable players in the game. As this team improves he will become more and more "engaged" (if engagement is lacking now. I believe he is frustrated as opposed to disengaged). Others will improve along with him. Batherson, Stutzle have lots of room to improve and I expect they will.

I'm beating a dead horse here but the rot is deep. With better coaching the players currently here will improve. They want to win and will want to listen and improve.

With better management I expect to see better trades, better drafts and better contracts.

Blowing leads is frustrating for players and fans. From a "glass half full " perspective the team is getting leads that should convert into wins. It can be done.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Brady is still the best forward taken in the 2018 draft. He is the quintessential power forward in the league. He leads the team in hits with 81. Parker Kelly is a distant second with 47. He has led our team in hits every year. Whenever the other teams take liberties with any of our players Brady is always there to answer the bell....because no one else on the team will. Brady leads in many ways. Slumps will come and go. And he is our leading goal scorer with 14 goals.

Not to take away from your principle point which is a good one. Per 60 5v5 Kelly is 1st in hits. 12.77 to Brady's 11.57... it makes sense considering their roles.
Rookie Greig is 3rd with 7.51. Joseph could improve here given the opportunities to hit, he is 10th with 3.41

Brady leads the team in penalties drawn / 60 and several other categories

 

[Golden_Jet]

a strong mental game is all heart.

disagree

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

disagree

what is heart? and where does it come from if not your mentality?

 

[Senovision]

If 31 GMs could pick one player off of our team in my opinion the majority of those GMs would pick Brady Tkachuk. He is a warrior.

 

[bert]

I loved Karlsson, defended his ability at every turn but this revisionism is spoiling the player for me. Karlsson constantly got a free pass from this fan base, despite years of failure when they were expected to be a playoff team. You think Alfredsson got plastered when Ottawa was competing against Edmonton for last place in the league? Spezza became a bit of scapegoat after wanting out and Stone was never captain.

The fun part is that Brady has statistically surprised limits you’ve placed upon him. You are so bad faith it’s hard to engage with you on the topic of this player.

It makes him hard to take seriously in general because of this.

To me it's just another way for an upset fan to cope. The concept that the captain of the team is solely responsible for the teams success shows me he needs a scape goat. You don't have to have a letter on to be a leader and the guys wearing the letter aren't responsible for everyone else's play. That concept in general is preposterous.