Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[DueDiligence]

Cool and also completely irrelevant to the point.

Not at all. Leafs have been making excuses for 6 years while having a generational scorer and spending to the max. people thought they would take the next step 5 years ago. Virtually all the Sens front line players weren't on the team 5 years ago.

 

[Sensinitis]

I am surprised that 2015 team didn't go deeper in the playoffs. Turris, Zibanejad, Pageau down the middle.
Stone, Ryan, Michalek, Hoffman, MacArthur on the wings and Karlson, Methot top pairing D. That's a good team.
Hammond was all smoke and mirrors and the Habs exposed him in the first round. But Anderson should've been able to come in and get the job done.

Ummm... You know the team was in a massive hole at that point and Price was playing like a brick wall, right? Anderson put up great duels against Price but the team was in too big a hole to come out of, literally dug its grave already.

All coaching on that one. If Andy started game 1 that series was an easy W.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Not at all. Leafs have been making excuses for 6 years while having a generational scorer and spending to the max. people thought they would take the next step 5 years ago. Virtually all the Sens front line players weren't on the team 5 years ago.

The discussion was about how the Leafs players and Matthews specifically reacted to the fans booing them. They took it upon themselves to get the game back and give the fans something to cheer about.

Our captain whined about adversity and how hard everyone was trying.

 

[DueDiligence]

The discussion was about how the Leafs players and Matthews specifically reacted to the fans booing them. They took it upon themselves to get the game back and give the fans something to cheer about.

Our captain whined about adversity and how hard everyone was trying.

My point was that the same Leafs core have been underperforming for years and have been apologizing for years. Realistically the current Sens have only underperformed the last 14 months so. Sens fans may boo but its a cumulation of losing seasons for the past 6 years which is certainly not on the current team.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

My point was that the same Leafs core have been underperforming for years and have been apologizing for years. Realistically the current Sens have only underperformed the last 14 months so. Sens fans may boo but its a cumulation of losing seasons for the past 6 years which is certainly not on the current team.

Marner and Matthews have never missed the playoffs lol.

Brady and Chabot have never even had a positive season, let alone challenge for playoffs, and they are nearing 500 games played.

0 meaningful games.

 

[DueDiligence]

Marner and Matthews have never missed the playoffs lol.

Brady and Chabot have never even had a positive season, let alone challenge for playoffs, and they are nearing 500 games played.

0 meaningful games.

Up until this year Brady and Chabot never had an owner like the Leafs had with deep pockets that could/would pay millions extra to put guys on IR, and for scouts, management and coaches etc. as well as spend to the max; all in order to help them in. And for all the talk about making the Leafs making the playoffs they have won one round in 7 years. Big frigging deal.

 

[Oduyanow]

My point was that the same Leafs core have been underperforming for years and have been apologizing for years. Realistically the current Sens have only underperformed the last 14 months so. Sens fans may boo but its a cumulation of losing seasons for the past 6 years which is certainly not on the current team.

No, but it sure as $h_t is on the current coach. This is his 5th season.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Up until this year Brady and Chabot never had an owner like the Leafs had with deep pockets that could/would pay millions extra to put guys on IR, and for scouts, management and coaches etc. as well as spend to the max; all in order to help them in. And for all the talk about making the Leafs making the playoffs they have won one round in 7 years. Big frigging deal.

you mean they were under the same ownership that karlsson almost won us a cup under (+ multiple playoffs) whom you were putting down just a few posts ago?

hilarious.

 

[DueDiligence]

you mean they were under the same ownership that karlsson almost won us a cup under (+ multiple playoffs) whom you were putting down just a few posts ago?

hilarious.

Seriously??? You point out one lucky season preceded and followed by two seasons where they missed the playoffs entirely. You mean the owner who dumped guys like Zibanejad, Stone, Turris and Karlsson because he didn't want to pay them big bucks and for the most part received lesser players and future assets? The owner for the last 10 years that wouldn't spend to the cap?
And can you tell us how Craig Anderson had nothing to do with the Sens success in the 2017 playoffs?

 

[Answer]

you mean they were under the same ownership that karlsson almost won us a cup under (+ multiple playoffs) whom you were putting down just a few posts ago?

hilarious.

Some people just won't admit facts

You are arguing with people who call Brady a better captain than Alfredsson and Karlsson, even before he reached 100 points, and yet have to lead this team into 1 playoff games, let alone a playoff win.. dare I say a series win?

When this team loses and can't win under pressure, and choke winnable games against "weaker", you blame the 4th liners, the management, Fans like Us (who always criticize this team for NO Reason), the weather, and the taxes.. BUT never dare blame the leader and the leadership of this Team

 

[coladin]

Brady is going to run people over tonight. He mad

 

[Mingus Dew]

Brady is going to run people over tonight. He mad

Hopefully he is fired up and ready to play.

 

[LiseL]

If Zub plays tonight, he'll cover up a lot of the lack of defensive coverage. They supposedly were practicing that this week, we'll find out shortly if that's the case.

 

[coladin]

Hopefully he is fired up and ready to play.

I have a feeling he gets kicked out

 

[Mingus Dew]

I have a feeling he gets kicked out

That would be less than ideal. Let’s see.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Brady is going to run people over tonight. He mad

Brady needs to play defence and help us win

 

[Mingus Dew]

Hopefully he is fired up and ready to play.

Really quiet game. Other players stepped up big time but him, Batherson and Norris did nothing.

He had the boys ready to play though. Good Captain behavior. And very glad he didn’t do anything dumb with Reaves.

 

[Micklebot]

Really quiet game. Other players stepped up big time but him, Batherson and Norris did nothing.

He had the boys ready to play though. Good Captain behavior. And very glad he didn’t do anything dumb with Reaves.

They were out against the Matthews/Marner line all night, I think that plays into it a bit though Stu et co was able to be effective against them so it's not the whole story.

Bath needs to get out of his funk, when he's on he can be dominant offensively, but he just doesn't seem to have it lately. Norris too, but he has an excuse.

 

[Mingus Dew]

They were out against the Matthews/Marner line all night, I think that plays into it a bit though Stu et co was able to be effective against them so it's not the whole story.

Bath needs to get out of his funk, when he's on he can be dominant offensively, but he just doesn't seem to have it lately. Norris too, but he has an excuse.

This is a good point.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

They were out against the Matthews/Marner line all night, I think that plays into it a bit though Stu et co was able to be effective against them so it's not the whole story.

Bath needs to get out of his funk, when he's on he can be dominant offensively, but he just doesn't seem to have it lately. Norris too, but he has an excuse.

Both the Norris line and the Stutzle line had more minutes 5v5 vs the Matthews line than any other line.
The Norris line had ~ just over a minute and a half more against them

 

[Micklebot]

Both the Norris line and the Stutzle line had more minutes 5v5 vs the Matthews line than any other line.
The Norris line had ~ just over a minute and a half more against them

Yeah, Idk if that's the matchups we wanted, or not, but we kept Jarventie and Chartier away from the Matthews line, which I'm sure was a big part of the game plan.

 

[coladin]

Really quiet game. Other players stepped up big time but him, Batherson and Norris did nothing.

He had the boys ready to play though. Good Captain behavior. And very glad he didn’t do anything dumb with Reaves.

Very un Brady-like game. 3 shots, 4 hits...just looked invisible . Really, really strange game from him. I really thought that 1st period he would set the tone

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

I keep hearing Brad "Shooter" Smyth saying that Tkachuk has done a ton for the team but we've never made the playoffs under his captaincy, he hasn't led the league in any statistical categories at end of season and his leadership isn't keeping the team from floundering at the bottom of the East.
So....what exactly is Tkachuk doing out there? He isn't drawing penalties, he isn't leading the charge when the team is down and he isn't first on the puck when the opposition has it.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I keep hearing Brad "Shooter" Smyth saying that Tkachuk has done a ton for the team but we've never made the playoffs under his captaincy, he hasn't led the league in any statistical categories at end of season and his leadership isn't keeping the team from floundering at the bottom of the East.
So....what exactly is Tkachuk doing out there? He isn't drawing penalties, he isn't leading the charge when the team is down and he isn't first on the puck when the opposition has it.

Way too many people think that being likable means you're a great captain.

I think he feels the heat being Matthews brother and also the big salary. Makes him want to score a lot of points.

But he has to cherry pick and float defensively to go PPG+ and he probably wants to be 100 point scorer like his brother.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I keep hearing Brad "Shooter" Smyth saying that Tkachuk has done a ton for the team but we've never made the playoffs under his captaincy, he hasn't led the league in any statistical categories at end of season and his leadership isn't keeping the team from floundering at the bottom of the East.
So....what exactly is Tkachuk doing out there? He isn't drawing penalties, he isn't leading the charge when the team is down and he isn't first on the puck when the opposition has it.

He was above a PPG last season. I get Brady has been a bit disappointing this year, but expecting anyone to be the top player in any statistical category in the entire league as the standard for anything...that asking a bit too much.