Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'll admit (to my shame) that Tkachuk was a polarizing pick back in 2018.

With the benefit of hindsight:

1	1	Buffalo	Rasmus Dahlin	D	Frolunda HC [SweHL]	353	46	186	232	258
1	2	Carolina	Andrei Svechnikov	R	Barrie Colts [OHL]	347	112	152	264	310
1	3	Montreal	Jesperi Kotkaniemi	C	Assat Pori [SM-liiga]	318	51	82	133	148
1	4	Ottawa	Brady Tkachuk	L	Boston University [H-East]	358	125	149	274	493
1	5	Arizona	Barrett Hayton	C	Soo Greyhounds [OHL]	175	32	42	74	76
1	6	Detroit	Filip Zadina	R	Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL]	190	28	40	68	22
1	7	Vancouver	Quinn Hughes	D	U. of Michigan [Big-10]	282	26	212	238	106
1	8	Chicago	Adam Boqvist	D	Brynas IF Gavle [SweHL]	172	22	51	73	40
1	9	NY Rangers	Vitali Kravtsov	R	Chelyabinsk Traktor [KHL]	64	6	6	12	14
1	10	Edmonton	Evan Bouchard	D	London Knights [OHL]	183	22	66	88	60
1	11	NY Islanders	Oliver Wahlstrom	R	U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL]	161	32	29	61	131
1	12	NY Islanders	Noah Dobson	D	Acadie-Bathurst Titan [QMJHL]	237	30	89	119	54
1	13	Dallas	Ty Dellandrea	C	Flint Firebirds [OHL]	107	12	21	33	75
1	14	Philadelphia	Joel Farabee	L	U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL]	251	60	72	132	158
1	15	Florida	Grigori Denisenko	L	Yaroslavl (Russia-Jr)	26	0	7	7	8
1	16	Colorado	Martin Kaut	R	Pardubice HC [Czech]	56	6	5	11	10
1	17	New Jersey	Ty Smith	D	Spokane Chiefs [WHL]	123	8	39	47	48
1	18	Columbus	Liam Foudy	C	London Knights [OHL]	87	7	12	19	14
1	19	Philadelphia	Jay O'Brien	C	Thayer Academy (US H.S.)
1	20	Los Angeles	Rasmus Kupari	C	Karpat [SM-liiga]	129	9	20	29	32
1	21	San Jose	Ryan Merkley	D	Guelph Storm [OHL]	39	1	5	6	8
1	22	NY Rangers	K'Andre Miller	D	U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL]	213	21	54	75	91
1	23	Anaheim	Isac Lundestrom	C	Lulea HF [SweHL]	211	26	32	58	26
1	24	Minnesota	Filip Johansson	D	Leksands IF [Swe-1]
1	25	St. Louis	Dominik Bokk	L	Vaxjo HC [SweHL]
1	26	Ottawa	Jacob Bernard-Docker	D	Okotoks Oilers [AJHL]	32	0	2	2	15
1	27	Chicago	Nicolas Beaudin	D	Drummondville Voltigeurs [QMJHL]	22	2	4	6	2
1	28	NY Rangers	Nils Lundkvist	D	Lulea HF [SweHL]	85	7	13	20	26
1	29	Toronto	Rasmus Sandin	D	Soo Greyhounds [OHL]	158	12	50	62	44
1	30	Detroit	Joe Veleno	C	Drummondville Voltigeurs [QMJHL]	151	18	18	36	56
1	31	Washington	Alexander Alexeyev	D	Red Deer Rebels [WHL]	32	0	5	5	6

We ended up with the guy leading his class in GP, G, PTS and PIMs.

There's maybe 4 All-Stars in the entire class. No real diamonds in the rough in later rounds.

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That top 10 would have Dobson, Miller, Farabee in it in a redraft.
Hayton and Kotkaniemi have shown something this year finally; they would be close to top 10

Boqvist, Zadina and Wahlstrom are probably closer to 20 than 10, Kravtsov could drop out of the 1st.

Many people , maybe most here didn't want Tkachuk in that 4 spot. In a redraft given what we can see now.. he probably goes 1. Svechnikov/Dahlin at 2 or 3.
Hughes probably goes 4.

 

[bicboi64]

At first, I chuckled. If we win a cup, Brady will party harder than anyone in NHL history, including Brett Hull and the Blues.

Then I thought, we've just missed the playoffs for the 5th straight year, this is cringe and reminds me of the people I'd work with in shelters near Byward.

Chychrun still looks jacked af tho, even pouring shots

 

[Sun God Nika]

Crazy to think I was upset we took Tkachuk over Zadina. Now flash 5 years later and Tkachuk is 1st in goals and pts from that draft and like 4th in assists.

Thx MTL.

 

[Adrianopolous]

Crazy to think I was upset we took Tkachuk over Zadina. Now flash 5 years later and Tkachuk is 1st in goals and pts from that draft and like 4th in assists.

Thx MTL.

It still hasn't translated into a playoff birth though, so I wouldn't brag just yet.

Tkachuk is one of the only players that I can see actually doing well in the playoffs.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

That top 10 would have Dobson, Miller, Farabee in it in a redraft.
Hayton and Kotkaniemi have shown something this year finally; they would be close to top 10

Boqvist, Zadina and Wahlstrom are probably closer to 20 than 10, Kravtsov could drop out of the 1st.

Many people , maybe most here didn't want Tkachuk in that 4 spot. In a redraft given what we can see now.. he probably goes 1. Svechnikov/Dahlin at 2 or 3.
Hughes probably goes 4.

Tkachuk has been great but for me he goes no higher than 3rd in a re-draft. Dahlin is a Norris candidate and likely will be for the next dozen years. Svechnikov is a much better all-around player than Brady (no shame there he is one of the best) and if he didn't play on the most defensive minded team in the league would already be viewed as a superstar.

I'd probably take Tkachuk over Hughes and Dobson but I could see why some might go with either player as well. We got a good one but it wasn't some steal. We got a player befitting 4th overall in that draft.

 

[Bileur]

Tkachuk has been great but for me he goes no higher than 3rd in a re-draft. Dahlin is a Norris candidate and likely will be for the next dozen years. Svechnikov is a much better all-around player than Brady (no shame there he is one of the best) and if he didn't play on the most defensive minded team in the league would already be viewed as a superstar.

I'd probably take Tkachuk over Hughes and Dobson but I could see why some might go with either player as well. We got a good one but it wasn't some steal. We got a player befitting 4th overall in that draft.

I could see another team with established leadership taking Svech over Brady but for the sens I’d take Brady 10/10.

Even then aside from the sens, Brady rates higher on unicorn scale.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Tkachuk has been great but for me he goes no higher than 3rd in a re-draft. Dahlin is a Norris candidate and likely will be for the next dozen years. Svechnikov is a much better all-around player than Brady (no shame there he is one of the best) and if he didn't play on the most defensive minded team in the league would already be viewed as a superstar.

I'd probably take Tkachuk over Hughes and Dobson but I could see why some might go with either player as well. We got a good one but it wasn't some steal. We got a player befitting 4th overall in that draft.

Brady leading all picks in goals, points, toughness.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Brady leading all picks in goals, points, toughness.

Don’t forget leadership intangibles!!!!

 

[Alf Silfversson]

I could see another team with established leadership taking Svech over Brady but for the sens I’d take Brady 10/10.

Even then aside from the sens, Brady rates higher on unicorn scale.

I don't think there is a bad pick between the two of them. I'd give a slight edge to Svech but I don't think there is a wrong answer here.

More than happy to have Tkachuk on our team.

 

[Icelevel]

Blasphemy talking about taking svechnikov over brady here.
Some people even in retrospect can’t get it right.
Those are the real unsmart ones.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I could see another team with established leadership taking Svech over Brady but for the sens I’d take Brady 10/10.

Even then aside from the sens, Brady rates higher on unicorn scale.

100% Tkachuk over Svech. You don't get a 30 goal, PPG player who is a friggin beast in front of the net all the time. In fact, as we all know, it's very rare.

 

[OD99]

It was all about timing.

Dahlin and Svech are amazing and Hughes or Dobson would be good as well but to me there is zero doubt Brady was the player we needed and the fact his production far exceeds what many believed it would be makes him a slam dunk for the Senators.

His leadership, attitude and toughness aligned perfectly with our rebuild. The other guys would have been significant contributors but Bray immediately gave us a different swagger and presence in the NHL and media.

The team needs to keep improving and fill in the blanks but I love that he is the face of our team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[BradyTkachucky]

Watching these playoffs and I can't help but think Brady is going to be so dominant when the Sens make it. His style is truly built for the playoffs. It's going to be fun watching him in the post season.

 

[Cosmix]

Don’t forget leadership intangibles!!!!

And "good in the locker room"!

Watching these playoffs and I can't help but think Brady is going to be so dominant when the Sens make it. His style is truly built for the playoffs. It's going to be fun watching him in the post season.

We still need a few more truculent players.

 

[aragorn]

And "good in the locker room"!


We still need a few more truculent players.

Deadpool, Borocop, Neil, Tkachuk ...

 

[bicboi64]

If we make the playoffs and face florida. I hope Brady doesn't hesitate to be a physical monster against his brother. MTkachuk has shown he doesn't give af who his opponents are, and will be dirty against us. I don't expect him to drop the gloves, but a big clean body check that makes their parents concerned.

And if Bennett does to any of our players what he did to Knies, Brady better be leading an assault on them.

 

[Hockeysawks]

If we make the playoffs and face florida. I hope Brady doesn't hesitate to be a physical monster against his brother. MTkachuk has shown he doesn't give af who his opponents are, and will be dirty against us. I don't expect him to drop the gloves, but a big clean body check that makes their parents concerned.

And if Bennett does to any of our players what he did to Knies, Brady better be leading an assault on them.

I cant find an angle where Knies head hits the ice. I think Matts hit did the damage.
Either way sending a young kid in with zero experience to be a power forward in the playoffs is bold..

 

[Mingus Dew]

Video of Brady partying with Brooks Koepka is pretty epic lol.

Dude is a force of nature.

 

[Bileur]

If we make the playoffs and face florida. I hope Brady doesn't hesitate to be a physical monster against his brother. MTkachuk has shown he doesn't give af who his opponents are, and will be dirty against us. I don't expect him to drop the gloves, but a big clean body check that makes their parents concerned.

And if Bennett does to any of our players what he did to Knies, Brady better be leading an assault on them.

I have zero concerns that Brady would put Gudas and Ekblad through the boards, feed Bennett his teeth and generally tune everyone up.

Honestly if things get heated enough I’m not even sure Matthew would be off limits.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I have no issues with Brady showing up and having a good time, but it kind of makes me laugh knowing the history of captains in this city.

If this was Alfredsson in the early 00's, Spezza or Karlsson, there'd be 1500-word think-pieces about how their disposition isn't serious enough to be captain. "Where are their priorities!?"

The years of losing have certainly mellowed this fanbase.

 

[Bileur]

I have no issues with Brady showing up and having a good time, but it kind of makes me laugh knowing the history of captains in this city.

If this was Alfredsson in the early 00's, Spezza or Karlsson, there'd be 1500-word think-pieces about how their disposition isn't serious enough to be captain. "Where are their priorities!?"

The years of losing have certainly mellowed this fanbase.

That’s part of it, the other part is that the Ottawa sun writers who would have written those kinds of BS articles to influence the casuals are out of a job.

 

[bicboi64]

I have zero concerns that Brady would put Gudas and Ekblad through the boards, feed Bennett his teeth and generally tune everyone up.

Honestly if things get heated enough I’m not even sure Matthew would be off limits.

If Matthew Tkachuk takes out Cat multiple times in a playoff series the way he did in the clip I posted, Brady better respond the same way he would to Gudas or Bennett.

 

[HSF]

I have no issues with Brady showing up and having a good time, but it kind of makes me laugh knowing the history of captains in this city.

If this was Alfredsson in the early 00's, Spezza or Karlsson, there'd be 1500-word think-pieces about how their disposition isn't serious enough to be captain. "Where are their priorities!?"

The years of losing have certainly mellowed this fanbase.

so true

 

[OD99]

Video of Brady partying with Brooks Koepka is pretty epic lol.

Dude is a force of nature.

Link?

Brooks was the last person I wanted to win this weekend.