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Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

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aragorn said:
They all do don't they? They are a young team still making young player mistakes & that includes some of the older & better players who have made plenty of mistakes this yr that have cost them games, lots of blame to go around. That is really the sad part of this season is that if they would have cut down on those mistakes they would be in the playoffs, they hurt themselves with their giveaways & mistakes. And a lot of these mistakes are not the coaches fault, sometimes it's guys trying to do too much or simply making the wrong play at the wrong time. If they cut down on their mistakes there is no question this is a playoff team already.
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The fact that they all need some defensive coaching is a bit of an indictment on the coaching staff, IMO.

But this is a Brady thread and to circle back to the post you responded to, Brady and Drake are the two worst in terms of defensive EFFORT. I don't expect Tkachuk (or Batherson for that matter) to ever be a Selke candidate and I don't really care as I want BT to continue to be hard on the forecheck and keep evolving his offensive game , but there has to be SOME effort on the defensive side of the game. Right now there is basically none.

A lot of the team is trying hard and is failing defensively due to inexperience, systemic breakdowns, etc.. It's not for a lack of effort though. In the case of Batherson and Tkachuk it is for a lack of effort. That has to change.
 
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Keith Tkachuk (Matthew Tkachuks father) was a guest on TSN Toronto 1050 Here are some quotes: Keith when talking about the Panthers "This is do or die for the Panthers right now...they're a soft team and they're getting everything they deserve right now... they should be a lot better then they are showing right now" When asked about playing the Maple Leafs tonight, his response was: "Instead of trying to get autographs with Matthews and Marner they should probably check a little bit harder" "I know I sound like a frustrated person but I know every time I go to watch Ottawa they might not be the most talented team but they're always going to play hard... maybe Florida should take a page out of their book" #TimeToHunt


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Keith Tkachuk (Matthew Tkachuks father) was a guest on TSN Toronto 1050 Here are some quotes: Keith when talking about the Panthers "This is do or die for the Panthers right now...they're a soft team and they're getting everything they deserve right now... they should be a lot better then they are showing right now" When asked about playing the Maple Leafs tonight, his response was: "Instead of trying to get autographs with Matthews and Marner they should probably check a little bit harder" "I know I sound like a frustrated person but I know every time I go to watch Ottawa they might not be the most talented team but they're always going to play hard... maybe Florida should take a page out of their book" #TimeToHunt
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Bit of a back handed compliment there haha
 
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Keith Tkachuk (Matthew Tkachuks father) was a guest on TSN Toronto 1050 Here are some quotes: Keith when talking about the Panthers "This is do or die for the Panthers right now...they're a soft team and they're getting everything they deserve right now... they should be a lot better then they are showing right now" When asked about playing the Maple Leafs tonight, his response was: "Instead of trying to get autographs with Matthews and Marner they should probably check a little bit harder" "I know I sound like a frustrated person but I know every time I go to watch Ottawa they might not be the most talented team but they're always going to play hard... maybe Florida should take a page out of their book" #TimeToHunt


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And yet Florida sits ahead of us

I guess Father Tkachuk did not watch us play against Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton and million other games
 
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And yet Florida sits ahead of us

I guess Father Tkachuk did not watch us play against Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton and million other games
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Yes because playing hard means guaranteed wins….:rolleyes: I think Daddy Tkachuk knows a thing or 2 about hockey
 
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And yet Florida sits ahead of us

I guess Father Tkachuk did not watch us play against Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton and million other games
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We have certainly come out flat in some important games this year and it indicates poor preparation and/or a lack of mental toughness for now. Hopefully they work on that.

We are not soft though. That is not the problem with this team.
Golden_Jet said:
Father Tkachuk is right
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There is something really wrong with that Florida team. They should be much better than they are. I think they made a big mistake dismissing Brunette after one playoff loss in the second round.
 
Brady is so effective.

It's really astonishing how he isn't amazing at any individual hockey skillset but just knows how to elevate and put it all together to get the job done.
Very unique player. I'm always struggling to find a good comparable. Shane Doan maybe? Ryan Smyth?
 
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Alf Silfversson said:
We have certainly come out flat in some important games this year and it indicates poor preparation and/or a lack of mental toughness for now. Hopefully they work on that.

We are not soft though. That is not the problem with this team.


There is something really wrong with that Florida team. They should be much better than they are. I think they made a big mistake dismissing Brunette after one playoff loss in the second round.
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Florida's goaltending is poor. Defense is suspect. And lots of injuries this year.
 
Alf Silfversson said:
We have certainly come out flat in some important games this year and it indicates poor preparation and/or a lack of mental toughness for now. Hopefully they work on that.

We are not soft though. That is not the problem with this team.


There is something really wrong with that Florida team. They should be much better than they are. I think they made a big mistake dismissing Brunette after one playoff loss in the second round.
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What exactly is poor preparation?

Do they prepare for games differently and haven't zeroed in on which preparation format works best?

Are they not ready to play some nights? What does that mean? They always have a pregame warmup followed by a 20 minute break

Idk. It's a league with designed parity. There's ebbs and flows to momentum from period to period and within periods. I don't really buy the poor preparation thing. They all watch a ton of video. They all know who the top players are on each team they're facing.

Taking away loser records, we're 36-38. We're pretty much just as likely to come out of the gate dominating the first 10 minutes versus getting dominated. It's who we are. And when we're being dominated, the key is to not give one up.
 
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JD1 said:
What exactly is poor preparation?

Do they prepare for games differently and haven't zeroed in on which preparation format works best?

Are they not ready to play some nights? What does that mean? They always have a pregame warmup followed by a 20 minute break

Idk. It's a league with designed parity. There's ebbs and flows to momentum from period to period and within periods. I don't really buy the poor preparation thing. They all watch a ton of video. They all know who the top players are on each team they're facing.

Taking away loser records, we're 36-38. We're pretty much just as likely to come out of the gate dominating the first 10 minutes versus getting dominated. It's who we are. And when we're being dominated, the key is to not give one up.
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Getting clown stomped by the Chicago... er....Rockford Icehogs of the AHL in a make or brake game means you ain't prepared to play. That was a key point of the season and we essentially were not a playoff team from that point on.

You can put it on the players or the coach, whatever, but the team did not come to play. Parity does not include post deadline Chicago. They aren't an NHL team right now. Losing that game, getting shut out by Chicago, is a pretty obviously a lack of readiness. The reason for that lack or readiness? Your guess is as good as mine. We all can have theories but they weren't ready to compete that night.
 
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Getting clown stomped by the Chicago... er....Rockford Icehogs of the AHL in a make or brake game means you ain't prepared to play. That was a key point of the season and we essentially were not a playoff team from that point on.

You can put it on the players or the coach, whatever, but the team did not come to play. Parity does not include post deadline Chicago. They aren't an NHL team right now. Losing that game, getting shut out by Chicago, is a pretty obviously a lack of readiness. The reason for that lack or readiness? Your guess is as good as mine. We all can have theories but they weren't ready to compete that night.
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They weren't ready to compete?

They outshot Chicago 12-3 in the first. That seems like they were ready to go at the drop of the puck.

Sogaard gave up 5 on 21 shots. Stalock had a 35 stop shutout.

Absolutely we needed that win and should have won. But I'm not sure you can point to being unprepared as the reason
 
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They weren't ready to compete?

They outshot Chicago 12-3 in the first. That seems like they were ready to go at the drop of the puck.

Sogaard gave up 5 on 21 shots. Stalock had a 35 stop shutout.

Absolutely we needed that win and should have won. But I'm not sure you can point to being unprepared as the reason
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They are vastly more talented than the Blackhawks. I would hope they outshoot them. There was no attention to detail or real intensity. They were flat the whole game.

They weren't soft but they weren't mentally in the moment. A lack of focus. To me that is not being ready.
 
Alf Silfversson said:
They are vastly more talented than the Blackhawks. I would hope they outshoot them. There was no attention to detail or real intensity. They were flat the whole game.

They weren't soft but they weren't mentally in the moment. A lack of focus. To me that is not being ready.
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I think it was more of a case of Ottawa having all kind of pressure getting chance after chance and having nothing to show for it, only for the Hawks to come down the ice and cash in on the few opportunities they were given. Might have been a different game if Giroux doesn't hit the post when it was 0-0. Stalock was a wall.
 
Alf Silfversson said:
They are vastly more talented than the Blackhawks. I would hope they outshoot them. There was no attention to detail or real intensity. They were flat the whole game.

They weren't soft but they weren't mentally in the moment. A lack of focus. To me that is not being ready.
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To me it seemed that they deviated from the game plan once they fell behind. They took too many chances instead of staying calm.
 
DrEasy said:
To me it seemed that they deviated from the game plan once they fell behind. They took too many chances instead of staying calm.
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Not gonna disagree. But isn't falling behind a pretty regular occurrence in the NHL? Not having a pre-set, ready-to-go mentality and game plan for that eventuality is not being ready to play. Panicking when you fall behind the weakest roster in the league is not being ready. They didn't come to play their best game mentally that night, IMO.
 
Alf Silfversson said:
Not gonna disagree. But isn't falling behind a pretty regular occurrence in the NHL? Not having a pre-set, ready-to-go mentality and game plan for that eventuality is not being ready to play. Panicking when you fall behind the weakest roster in the league is not being ready. They didn't come to play their best game mentally that night, IMO.
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They also beat Boston shortly after 6-3 guess Bruins suck too.
 
Golden_Jet said:
Just proving you are wrong. Started game 12 shots to 3, hit 3 posts, goalie couldn’t stop anything.
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To be fair, our Defensive breakdowns were brutal, so the chances against were very high quality, like, unacceptably so.

Is that because the team was ready, idk, but there's some grey there
 
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Just proving you are wrong. Started game 12 shots to 3, hit 3 posts, goalie couldn’t stop anything.
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Proving me wrong by implying I said something I didn't? Good one.

They got whitewashed 5-0 by an AHL squad. The goalie is part of the team and the rest of the team failed to score.

They didn't show up, no matter what the shot count was. Look at the play away from the puck on 4/5 Chicago goals. I sure hope their heads weren't in the game because that was pathetic coverage.
 
Alf Silfversson said:
Proving me wrong by implying I said something I didn't? Good one.

They got whitewashed 5-0 by an AHL squad. The goalie is part of the team and the rest of the team failed to score.

They didn't show up, no matter what the shot count was. Look at the play away from the puck on 4/5 Chicago goals. I sure hope their heads weren't in the game because that was pathetic coverage.
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Yep Boston sucks too, enjoy.
 
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