Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[DylanSensFan]

not sure...

maybe look at the post above yours

Uh huh, and he went from good to go today, to not playing.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Uh huh, and he went from good to go today, to not playing.

Don't think he was good to go... they called up 4 for a reason

 

[DylanSensFan]

Don't think he was good to go... they called up 4 for a reason

I guess the news was false then, because TSN and SN were both saying he was good to go.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I guess the news was false then, because TSN and SN were both saying he was good to go.

I am guessing concussion - he was slow to get up after a hit. he was tapped by the trainers to go to the locker room. He may have wanted to play... hence the "may go today", but protocol is 48 hours

Here are two initial steps under the NHL concussion protocol regulations for players diagnosed with concussions:

First, a player will undergo an initial, brief period of physical and cognitive rest. This takes place 24 to 48 hours after the incident. Players then can gradually become more exposed to activities, as long as they do not provoke or worsen the symptoms of the concussion.

NOTE: If we are really lucky, this organization is just following the proper protocol and not risking him playing within 24 hours of the hit.

 

[Tuna99]

Interesting thing about Brady is when we drafted him Trent Mann was so happy because he said he now had a player in Brady you could use as a measuring stick for how hard the other players on team are playing - Brady was sold as the next Alfie.


Whejnin reality what we have is a player who doesn’t really forecehck or backcheck so now the high bar for effort is Brady who doesn’t always bring it especially on the Dside of the game and if your standard is you have to be as good as Brad then that’s the high bar for the team - and Brady’s bar is nowhere close to high enough.

 

[DueDiligence]

Interesting thing about Brady is when we drafted him Trent Mann was so happy because he said he now had a player in Brady you could use as a measuring stick for how hard the other players on team are playing - Brady was sold as the next Alfie.


Whejnin reality what we have is a player who doesn’t really forecehck or backcheck so now the high bar for effort is Brady who doesn’t always bring it especially on the Dside of the game and if your standard is you have to be as good as Brad then that’s the high bar for the team - and Brady’s bar is nowhere close to high enough.

I disagree. Since the coaching move BT has played a reasonable two way game. He is the one guy who continually finishes his checks and plays a physical game. His front of net presence is unmatched by anyone else on the team. But because he doesn't have the speed or agility of most other forwards when he is out of position you notice it more.

 

[Tuna99]

I disagree. Since the coaching move BT has played a reasonable two way game. He is the one guy who continually finishes his checks and plays a physical game. His front of net presence is unmatched by anyone else on the team. But because he doesn't have the speed or agility of most other forwards when he is out of position you notice it more.

C’mon dude, Takchuk has a great game but he is nowhere close enough and never has been when it comes to winning hockey. Brady does things you need to win like score and play net front, but overall he should be leading the franchise in detailed on ice play and not “trying” to do it, he needs to do it every shift for 82 games and not just when the game is tight or they are on home ice

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

C’mon dude, Takchuk has a great game but he is nowhere close enough and never has been when it comes to winning hockey. Brady does things you need to win like score and play net front, but overall he should be leading the franchise in detailed on ice play and not “trying” to do it, he needs to do it every shift for 82 games and not just when the game is tight or they are on home ice

Just like Conner McDavid.

 

[Micklebot]

Interesting thing about Brady is when we drafted him Trent Mann was so happy because he said he now had a player in Brady you could use as a measuring stick for how hard the other players on team are playing - Brady was sold as the next Alfie.


Whejnin reality what we have is a player who doesn’t really forecehck or backcheck so now the high bar for effort is Brady who doesn’t always bring it especially on the Dside of the game and if your standard is you have to be as good as Brad then that’s the high bar for the team - and Brady’s bar is nowhere close to high enough.

Doesn't forecheck? I mean, where do you think he got his 200+ hits from?

 

[DueDiligence]

Doesn't forecheck? I mean, where do you think he got his 200+ hits from?

When posters make comments like Brady not fore-checking they lose alot of credibility. He is the one guy who constantly finishes his checks in the offensive zone especially when a Dman has just passed the puck. Heck he finishes his checks more than the 4th line does.

 

[Tuna99]

Doesn't forecheck? I mean, where do you think he got his 200+ hits from?

I’m talking neutral zone forecheck and takeaways like Alfie or Stone, hitting is great but obviously not getting us anywhere. I’d trade 100 Brady hits so he could strip the puck 10 times in the neutral zone - I’d rather have the puck then have people hitting people who have the puck

And this is the issue with Brady - lots of activity but not a lot of winning. It’s hard to critique him because of his family and he wears the C - but if Brady thinks he’s doing enough in this tankology then how do expect Timmy or Chabot to up their game.

 

[Tuna99]

Just like Conner McDavid.

Look at our road record since Brady got here and that tells you all you need to about the des tail of the game his team plays - f***ing brutal

 

[Senovision]

When posters make comments like Brady not fore-checking they lose alot of credibility. He is the one guy who constantly finishes his checks in the offensive zone especially when a Dman has just passed the puck. Heck he finishes his checks more than the 4th line does.

Any poster saying that is just trying to get people worked up.
Don't feed the squirrels....why? Because they are nuts.

 

[Micklebot]

I’m talking neutral zone forecheck and takeaways like Alfie or Stone, hitting is great but obviously not getting us anywhere. I’d trade 100 Brady hits so he could strip the puck 10 times in the neutral zone - I’d rather have the puck then have people hitting people who have the puck

And this is the issue with Brady - lots of activity but not a lot of winning. It’s hard to critique him because of his family and he wears the C - but if Brady thinks he’s doing enough in this tankology then how do expect Timmy or Chabot to up their game.

He's 4th among forwards in 5v5 takeaways, (only one off of 2nd place). Not sure where that's happening (NZ/DZ or OZ) but the idea that he's not contributing in that regard is bizarre. He's not Stone in that regard, but who is.

There's no issue with criticizing Brady's game so long as it's factual, when we start seeing critiques that don't align with reality though, it's fair game to be called out.

 

[DueDiligence]

I’m talking neutral zone forecheck and takeaways like Alfie or Stone, hitting is great but obviously not getting us anywhere.

And this is the issue with Brady - lots of activity but not a lot of winning. It’s hard to critique him because of his family and he wears the C - but if Brady thinks he’s doing enough in this tankology then how do expect Timmy or Chabot to up their game.

If the rest of the team actually were tough to play against by throwing some more hits the Sens would win a great deal more.
For the record the Sens are losing because they have the worst combined special teams in the league and their goaltending is bottom 3.

He's 4th among forwards in 5v5 takeaways, (only one off of 2nd place). Not sure where that's happening (NZ/DZ or OZ) but the idea that he's not contributing in that regard is bizarre. He's not Stone in that regard, but who is.

There's no issue with criticizing Brady's game so long as it's factual, when we start seeing critiques that don't align with reality though, it's fair game to be called out.

Can't let facts get in the way of spinning one's narrative.

 

[bicboi64]

I’m talking neutral zone forecheck and takeaways like Alfie or Stone, hitting is great but obviously not getting us anywhere. I’d trade 100 Brady hits so he could strip the puck 10 times in the neutral zone - I’d rather have the puck then have people hitting people who have the puck

And this is the issue with Brady - lots of activity but not a lot of winning. It’s hard to critique him because of his family and he wears the C - but if Brady thinks he’s doing enough in this tankology then how do expect Timmy or Chabot to up their game.

Pretty much this. He's physical in hitting but isn't that effective at removing someone from the puck with a hit, barely blocks shots, is useless in our zone, can't be trusted to kill a penalty, LIke this isn't captain material and sets the bar low.

 

[Tuna99]

He's 4th among forwards in 5v5 takeaways, (only one off of 2nd place). Not sure where that's happening (NZ/DZ or OZ) but the idea that he's not contributing in that regard is bizarre. He's not Stone in that regard, but who is.

There's no issue with criticizing Brady's game so long as it's factual, when we start seeing critiques that don't align with reality though, it's fair game to be called out.

The facts are he’s not getting it done in any way and his leadership isn’t inspiring other players to be better.

I get the feeling winning is a secondary concern to all the Tkachuks and the primary concern is to be on top of the business of the NHL and make sure you acquire as much money and influencer as you can over perfecting your game

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Look at our road record since Brady got here and that tells you all you need to about the des tail of the game his team plays - f***ing brutal

It's goaltending dude. Brady is a unicorn that every team in the league would sell their soul for.

 

[Tuna99]

It's goaltending dude. Brady is a unicorn that every team in the league would sell their soul for.

The reason I’m salty is his pregame interview last night he sounded disheartened, like he was reading from a script, he seems overwhelmed by the changes, mentions DJ Smith every chance he gets, his team sucks. He’s sad about Tarasenko.

Brady doesn’t seem to believe in the message Jacques Martin is sending - I just don’t like his body language and his attitude when his team hasn’t won a game on the west coast all season.

His players are sad because of the trade deadline and names are in the media - SOFT

Lead your team to victory or make the players on the team play winning hockey - you’re the f***ing Captain get your team out of this tailspin

 

[Micklebot]

The facts are he’s not getting it done in any way and his leadership isn’t inspiring other players to be better.

These aren't facts, they are bizarre claims by you based on nothing more that frustration with the team overall.

Hockey is a team sport, one man doesn't control how a team performs. This roster is flawed in in construction and has been for a while, that's not on Brady. As for his leadership, unless you're in the room (you aren't) you have no clue whether he's inspiring players to be better.

I get the feeling winning is a secondary concern to all the Tkachuks and the primary concern is to be on top of the business of the NHL and make sure you acquire as much money and influencer as you can over perfecting your game

That's quite the claim, given your track record over the last few posts where you've made a series of claims about the player that don't seem to align with reality or are relating to issues you can't possibly have any actual insight into, I'll take your feeling about him with a massive grain of salt.

 

[Tuna99]

These aren't facts, they are bizarre claims by you based on nothing more that frustration with the team overall.

Hockey is a team sport, one man doesn't control how a team performs. This roster is flawed in in construction and has been for a while, that's not on Brady. As for his leadership, unless you're in the room (you aren't) you have no clue whether he's inspiring players to be better.

That's quite the claim, given your track record over the last few posts where you've made a series of claims about the player that don't seem to align with reality or are relating to issues you can't possibly have any actual insight into, I'll take your feeling about him with a massive grain of salt.

sure, let’s put this on the universe and not the people actually paid $8 million to win.

You have to admit Brady had a say in DJ staying, Norris signing, Tarasenko etc etc . He’s had a massive influence on the decisions within the franchise and the results are in - brutal.

So my belief is SS is taking Brady’s input and control on coaching g and a management away and Brady is sulking because of it.

He’s been in trade rumours the last few weeks, he’s a Tkachuk. I don’t think this ends well because it’s never ends well for Tkachuk in Canadian markets.

 

[Micklebot]

sure, let’s put this on the universe and not the people actually paid $8 million to win.

You have to admit Brady had a say in DJ staying, Norris signing, Tarasenko etc etc . He’s had a massive influence on the decisions within the franchise and the results are in - brutal.

So my belief is SS is taking Brady’s input and control on coaching g and a management away and Brady is sulking because of it.

He’s been in trade rumours the last few weeks, he’s a Tkachuk. I don’t think this ends well because it’s never ends well for Tkachuk in Canadian markets.

I can't imagine why a Tkachuk might want out of a canadian market with fans ranting about them the way you have...

If you want to put unrealistic expectations on a player, make claims about them that don't align with reality, and then spiral down some bizarre narrative based on nothing but your own unsupported claims, have at it, just don't be surprised when you get called out on claims that just don't make sense.

 

[Tuna99]

I can't imagine why a Tkachuk might want out of a canadian market with fans ranting about them the way you have...

If you want to put unrealistic expectations on a player, make claims about them that don't align with reality, and then spiral down some bizarre narrative based on nothing but your own unsupported claims, have at it, just don't be surprised when you get called out on claims that just don't make sense.

Yes - Brady wants out because of me just like EK and Alfie wanted out because of me despite me being the biggest EK and Alfie homer in the world. Thanks for letting this board know how influential I am. I’m simultaneously a nobody who’s out to lunch on my hockey analysis and such an influence Brady is going to move out of the city.


To me - under Dorion it was “keep Brady happy under any circumstances”. DJ, Tarasenko, Norris, Captainship, etc etc.

Under SS I think there’s a massive change and keeping Brady happy isn’t a top priority and I don’t think Brady likes it. I think Brady wants input on where the team is going and his influence isn’t as big as he’d like with this new management group

 

[Micklebot]

Yes - Brady wants out because of me just like EK and Alfie wanted out because of me despite me being the biggest EK and Alfie homer in the world. Thanks for letting this Baird know how influential I am.


To me - under Dorion it was “keep Brady happy under any circumstances”. DJ, Tarasenko, Norris, Captainship, etc etc.

Under SS I think there’s a massive change and keeping Brady happy isn’t a top priority and I don’t think Brady likes it.

That's a great story, you should write children's books or something,

 

[Tuna99]

That's a great story, you should write children's books or something,

If we’re going to fantasy stories for kids your version of blame someone else for your poor results fits much better with the times.