Player Discussion Brady Skjei

[The Gloaming]

Even at this point he's better.

You need to be in position to perform a good stick check, something Staal has no concept of any more.

Agreed. I meant more like Staal still has a better chance of completing a stick check when he's actually in position, but that doesn't happen often anymore.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Not to be that guy, but "triggering" is a real thing that happens to sufferers of PTSD.



Internet trolls have warped triggering into a meme they can use to make fun of anyone they don't like, but mental illness is a real thing. Can we not trivialize the pain of those who struggle with it?

Anyway, to stay on topic: Brady definitely struggled mid-season, but he has really elevated his game the last month or two. I don't know if he's going to continue to post quite as many points going forward, but unexpected offense is always nice. Still not sold on his pp usage given that he has yet to register a pp goal or primary assist.

Not to get too off topic, "triggered" is used by people to insult people and also by people that get offended by something. Not just one side uses it. Anyway, carry on.

 

[nyr2k2]

So no proof that I called Zborovskiy an offensive catalyst? Like I thought. You made that one up.

I have neither the time nor the desire to search through dozens of pages of your posting history. Your Zborovskiy hyping is well known.

You were the one that responded to me first, you started name calling, your tone was very rude in your original reply to me, so I think that speaks for itself. Your constant history on this issue does as well.

Neener neener!

If I'm such a bad judge of talent, what are you? You are an NHL scout?

No, not an NHL scout. Just a better and more realistic judge of talent.

I give my opinion on issues I want to. If its contrarian, I don't really care. Who are you to judge who's opinions are good and bad?

It's the point of a message board.

 

[nyr2k2]

Not to be that guy, but "triggering" is a real thing that happens to sufferers of PTSD.

Internet trolls have warped triggering into a meme they can use to make fun of anyone they don't like, but mental illness is a real thing. Can we not trivialize the pain of those who struggle with it?

Yes, valid point. I'm​ sorry and will edit my wording.

 

[Bob Richards]

He also posted a long diatribe about how people love to complain about AV for the sake of complaining.

When Skjei plays poorly and should be swapped with Graves, its the coach knowing better than the fans and we should get over it. Rookies should be regulated for their inexperience.

When its Buchnevich getting 4th line minutes/scratched then AV is an idiot and worthy of an angry user title above their avatar.

 

[Raspewtin]

Not to be that guy, but "triggering" is a real thing that happens to sufferers of PTSD.



Internet trolls have warped triggering into a meme they can use to make fun of anyone they don't like, but mental illness is a real thing. Can we not trivialize the pain of those who struggle with it?

Yeah, this

Almost as clever as calling Crosby "Cindy" or any other sex-derived insults.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Not to get too off topic, "triggered" is used by people to insult people and also by people that get offended by something. Not just one side uses it. Anyway, carry on.

yeah it was mainly started by idiots who get offended by something benign so they say it "triggers" them, so theyre really the ones trivializing it

 

[SnowblindNYR]

yeah it was mainly started by idiots who get offended by something benign so they say it "triggers" them, so theyre really the ones trivializing it

Yeah, I unfollowed a girl that's a very nice person in real life but would start FB posts with "trigger warning".

Anyway, glad Skjei is playing well. That was quite an HF argument in this thread.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

When Skjei plays poorly and should be swapped with Graves, its the coach knowing better than the fans and we should get over it. Rookies should be regulated for their inexperience. When its Buchnevich getting 4th line minutes/scratched then AV is an idiot and worthy of an angry user title above their avatar.

Can you show me where I said the reason for Skjei being swapped with Graves is due to the coach knowing better and fans should get over it? Or is this like the other guy who claims something ridiculous and then says he doesn't have the time to back it up?

And you are right, I defended AV months ago in the face of those complaining about very unimportant issues, like Clendening, a marginal player. Not going to defend him demoting a very good rookie who was having a very good season.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I have neither the time nor the desire to search through dozens of pages of your posting history. Your Zborovskiy hyping is well known.



Neener neener!



No, not an NHL scout. Just a better and more realistic judge of talent.



It's the point of a message board.

You start an argument with me over something I said a month ago that I said doesn't pertain to now or had nothing to do with you or anything you said, you make things up that you claim I said to enhance your argument but then can't actually bring forth evidence that I said it, and you have the nerve to start calling me names and tell me your opinion is better than mine.



Amazing. Enjoy your weekend.

 

[Bob Richards]

Can you show me where I said the reason for Skjei being swapped with Graves is due to the coach knowing better and fans should get over it? Or is this like the other guy who claims something ridiculous and then says he doesn't have the time to back it up?

And you are right, I defended AV months ago in the face of those complaining about very unimportant issues, like Clendening, a marginal player. Not going to defend him demoting a very good rookie who was having a very good season.

Its the exact same logic though. Posters should keep silent about AV when it comes to Clendening, who by logical accounts is having a solid season, but suddenly he's a fool because Buchnevich is being demoted for rookie warts?

Why does Pavel get so much leeway with you but Skjei may as well be the anti-Christ? Your agenda is so conspicuous when Brady is clearly better than players like Staal and Girardi. So many of us would agree with that because of numbers and the eye test. If you don't want to believe that then I don't know what to tell you. That is your opinion I guess.

And the whole "like mindedness" post is bunk. Posters don't dislike G/Staal's style and corsi because it isn't cute, its because it sucks lol.

 

[nyr2k2]

You start an argument with me over something I said a month ago that I said doesn't pertain to now or had nothing to do with you or anything you said, you make things up that you claim I said to enhance your argument but then can't actually bring forth evidence that I said it, and you have the nerve to start calling me names and tell me your opinion is better than mine.



Amazing. Enjoy your weekend.

I've been enjoying it, thanks.

Enjoy fighting with the entirety of HF over your wackadoo opinions and combing through other posters' post history!

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Its the exact same logic though. Posters should keep silent about AV when it comes to Clendening, who by logical accounts is having a solid season, but suddenly he's a fool because Buchnevich is being demoted for rookie warts?

Why does Pavel get so much leeway with you but Skjei may as well be the anti-Christ? Your agenda is so conspicuous when Brady is clearly better than players like Staal and Girardi. So many of us would agree with that because of numbers and the eye test. If you don't want to believe that then I don't know what to tell you. That is your opinion I guess.

And the whole "like mindedness" post is bunk. Posters don't dislike G/Staal's style and corsi because it isn't cute, its because it sucks lol.

What? I literally said I think yesterday that Skjei is playing very well lately. I said I'll be upset to see him come out of the lineup when everyone returns. I'm not anti-Skjei, I just frankly think he's playing a little over his head offensively, and has had struggles at times defensively that go unnoticed because all the ire goes elsewhere. Ultimately, I think the offense and defense flip, and he'll be a good NHL player. I don't know when I said otherwise. And frankly, I don't remember the last time he's made one of these Top 50, 100 prospect lists from the prospect "experts" like Button or Pronman, and a few others. I tend to regard that as a red flag. If this guy is going to be so good, better than I've claimed and some people think he could be, what are all these people paid by companies like TSN and ESPN to evaluate prospects missing? Is it possible he's playing over his head with the points? Buchnevich has routinely been on all these lists, and like everyone has always thought he'd be a top 6 forward. I tend to think his point production is a little more true to the player he will be. I'm less enthused about a player I think isn't as good. I'm sure its the same way for everyone, doesn't mean I dislike Skjei. Thats total rubbish to claim I'm anti-Skjei. I like every player on our team, and root for their success. Everyone on this board takes up opinions on players, and is higher and lower on certain players. So, its natural to be upset about treatment of certain players and not of other players, especially when you think one is playing better than the other.

This current discussion all started when I said he's bad on the PP, which is backed up by facts and everyone agrees on. Others said the same thing in this discussion about him on the PP. Doesn't mean he's bad, Stepan is terrible on the PP, McDonagh routinely has big PP blunders. Then "Geoff Gorton" tries to bait me into an argument over something from A MONTH AGO with no relation to my comment from yesterday. Then "nyr2k2" continues on what "Geoff Gorton" started. I didn't start a Skjei witch hunt in this discussion. Go back and read what was said and how this started. Would you not respond if someone distorted your opinion, brought up a completely irrelevant previous argument and claimed you said things you didn't?

 

[aufheben]

Guys and gals, I think it'd be a good idea to point this discussion back towards Brady's play. I think you'd all agree. Thanks.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

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Guys and gals, I think it'd be a good idea to point this discussion back towards Brady's play. I think you'd all agree. Thanks.

JINX.

 

[aufheben]

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JINX.

#Saturdaynightfever #YOLO #weekend.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Monster game last night. Looked dominant from start to finish.

Going to be hilarious when AV scratches him in favor of Klein and G. Its the right thing to do.

 

[ponzu4u]

Monster game last night. Looked dominant from start to finish.

Completely agree. Thought that was the best game I've seen him play yet. I liked seeing him vocal and telling guys where to be. The more I watch him play the more I'm starting to think we've got a serious stud on our hands.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[Ori]

yeah, an amazing season for him!

 

[nyr2k2]

He's a stud. He's going to play excellent defensive hockey while consistently scoring 30-40 points every year.

 

[Raspewtin]

I'd wife the **** out of Skjei

God damn beautiful player

He's a stud. He's going to play excellent defensive hockey while consistently scoring 30-40 points every year.

Eh. Not willing to say that yet.

 

[nyr2k2]

Eh. Not willing to say that yet.

I definitely am. He has the vision and passing ability to net himself in the area of 30 assists every year.

 

[Raspewtin]

I definitely am. He has the vision and passing ability to net himself in the area of 30 assists every year.

Honestly, I don't see it with his passing. he's a much better puck carrier and support player in the offensive zone. it's probably why he's racked up so many second assists.

 

[Zil]

Honestly, I don't see it with his passing. he's a much better puck carrier and support player in the offensive zone. it's probably why he's racked up so many second assists.

It's true that Skjei has a bunch of secondary assists, but he's outscoring McDonagh 5v5 even if you ignore them. Skjei has 10 5v5 primary assists now, which is one more than McDonagh. Even strength goals are 3-2 in Skjei's favor. McDonagh's advantage over Skjei in primary points comes entirely from the pp (7 to 0) and 4v4 play (2 to 0).

Now obviously the huge caveat is that McDonagh has been lugging Girardi/Staal around for the vast majority of his 5v5 minutes, but that's an indictment of AV not Skjei. I think Brady can be a real producer at even strength, but I'm not sold on him getting pp time (only 4 points, all secondary).