Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[thewave]

I listened too, he's an impressive guy.

A good reminder that MLSE needs to hire another CEO at some point, they've been without leadership for far too long.

Sure he was. Didn't he leave because of the board? Pretty sure he did.

Anyways, the problem with the Leafs isn't the lack of a CEO, it's the fact the board acts on all levels of decision making constantly. MLSE is nothing but a bloated organization that can't effectively find it's direction or make consistent decisions. It's essentially run by LarryT who will act through any tier down to GM when he sees fit.

Ideally we would have a GM that is competent and can do most things with as little oversight as possible. Hiring a new CEO would just lead to constant board interference through that CEO (as is now) so no real difference will be made.

 

[3blizzard4]

Tre thanked the Calgary organization, the staff and and players. Thats what Tre started his pressor with by saying "first and foremost".

Dubas didnt say one thing about the Leafs or thank them nor Shanahan. Dude brought him into the league.

Stay classy DubAAs.

Here is the link to Kyle's presser.

 

[therealkoho]

Sorry if it was already mentioned here - did anyone else find it weird that when he asked about the relationship with Brodie and Gio he never mentioned Brodie by name. He kept referring to them as "both" or just said Gio.

I truly think TJ will be moved as part of realigning the cap situation in order to give the team more flexibility and not less.

Paying Matthews like a top ten player in the league who hasn't been able to lead his team past the 2nd round will also help with that. Laying more then 11.7 on this guy will be fatal miscalculation for the team moving forward. My feeling is that as soon as Treliving gets the impression that all the star is interested in is money, that's when he'll start making calls.

I think there's a deal to be worked with the current Coyotes franchise, which if rumours are true, are attracting a lot of interest from the Salt Lake City people. Maybe the league says to them if you're willing to pay this guy max we'll make you a great deal on the franchise. And if it all falls together you can move it by mid season.

Matthews people, the league and the Maple Leafs would be missing the boat if they didn't at least explore it.

 

[The Masters]

Tre thanked the Calgary organization, the staff and and players. Thats what Tre started his pressor with by saying "first and foremost".

Dubas didnt say one thing about the Leafs or thank them nor Shanahan. Dude brought him into the league.

Stay classy DubAAs.

Here is the link to Kyle's presser.

when ur born a b*tch, you die a b*tch

 

[HolyCrap]

Ok thanks

I didnt say i liked them holy crap

No worries bud. I just really don’t like him obv. Lol.

 

[JamieG19]

I truly think TJ will be moved as part of realigning the cap situation in order to give the team more flexibility and not less.

Paying Matthews like a top ten player in the league who hasn't been able to lead his team past the 2nd round will also help with that. Laying more then 11.7 on this guy will be fatal miscalculation for the team moving forward. My feeling is that as soon as Treliving gets the impression that all the star is interested in is money, that's when he'll start making calls.

I think there's a deal to be worked with the current Coyotes franchise, which if rumours are true, are attracting a lot of interest from the Salt Lake City people. Maybe the league says to them if you're willing to pay this guy max we'll make you a great deal on the franchise. And if it all falls together you can move it by mid season.

Matthews people, the league and the Maple Leafs would be missing the boat if they didn't at least explore it.

Crazy talk. Auston is getting 14 Mil at the very least, probably 15 Mil and deserves it and it's the right thing for the Leafs to do. You don't penny pinch with a generational player like Auston Matthews. That's what the market is now and it's contract time. In 4 years it will seem like he's underpaid. That's how contracts work. Look at Nylander. I remember soooooo much talk people saying they overpaid him...and a few years later and almost everyone agrees it's one of the better contracts and totally a bargain for the Leafs.

 

[joepeps]

Crazy talk. Auston is getting 14 Mil at the very least, probably 15 Mil and deserves it and it's the right thing for the Leafs to do. You don't penny pinch with a generational player like Auston Matthews. That's what the market is now and it's contract time. In 4 years it will seem like he's underpaid. That's how contracts work. Look at Nylander. I remember soooooo much talk people saying they overpaid him...and a few years later and almost everyone agrees it's one of the better contracts and totally a bargain for the Leafs.

why stop at 15.. 16 19 30... lol every other top player took fair deals for 8 year.. not 5 not 3... Nathan just took 100K more for 8 years than McDavids 6 year old contract. Its only the leafs guys and the media wanting them to have max money for short terms so they can complain about it later and get paid by the agent

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Crazy talk. Auston is getting 14 Mil at the very least, probably 15 Mil and deserves it and it's the right thing for the Leafs to do. You don't penny pinch with a generational player like Auston Matthews. That's what the market is now and it's contract time. In 4 years it will seem like he's underpaid. That's how contracts work. Look at Nylander. I remember soooooo much talk people saying they overpaid him...and a few years later and almost everyone agrees it's one of the better contracts and totally a bargain for the Leafs.

Matthews is not a generational player.

He's an elite franchise center and yes that makes him valuable. It's impossible to find such a talent on the open market. I would hope they don't start considering 14M+ for Matthews, but it might come down to accepting the reality of him being greedy.

From a team perspective, it has to be under 13M. I would hope for even less to be honest.

If it gets to 14M+, you 100% remove Marner (which they should do anyway) and wait for Tavares' contract to finish. I don't think they're winning anything in that first year of Matthews' extension.

If he earns 14M+ and drops 11 in 11 during the playoffs, your team is done. He's gotta perform at McDavid or Draisaitl level in the playoffs to warrant such a deal, and he's never come close to doing that so far.

 

[Warden of the North]

Trading possibly the best playoff performer for.the leafs over the past two playoffs would seem to be counterintuitive


If Dubas offers the GM job, I'm sure Pridham is gone

Well, if the Leafs want to they can so no. He's under contract here. For an AGM position they absolutely would. For a GM? They'd probably let him go.

I do wonder if there is a succession plan being made here that Shanny moves on, Treliving goes to PoHO and Pridham moves to GM in a few years?

 

[Americanadian]

I truly think TJ will be moved as part of realigning the cap situation in order to give the team more flexibility and not less.

Paying Matthews like a top ten player in the league who hasn't been able to lead his team past the 2nd round will also help with that. Laying more then 11.7 on this guy will be fatal miscalculation for the team moving forward. My feeling is that as soon as Treliving gets the impression that all the star is interested in is money, that's when he'll start making calls.

I think there's a deal to be worked with the current Coyotes franchise, which if rumours are true, are attracting a lot of interest from the Salt Lake City people. Maybe the league says to them if you're willing to pay this guy max we'll make you a great deal on the franchise. And if it all falls together you can move it by mid season.

Matthews people, the league and the Maple Leafs would be missing the boat if they didn't at least explore it.

Apparently they’re staying in Arizona. It would make a lot of sense if he went there. The league needs him to save that franchise and they have the pieces to make a deal.

 

[Americanadian]

Crazy talk. Auston is getting 14 Mil at the very least, probably 15 Mil and deserves it and it's the right thing for the Leafs to do. You don't penny pinch with a generational player like Auston Matthews. That's what the market is now and it's contract time. In 4 years it will seem like he's underpaid. That's how contracts work. Look at Nylander. I remember soooooo much talk people saying they overpaid him...and a few years later and almost everyone agrees it's one of the better contracts and totally a bargain for the Leafs.

Why are you actively rooting against the success of the team? Austin getting 14M is the worst case scenario for everyone but him. If I was the NHLPA I’d be calling Treliving daily saying “don’t give him more than 12.75”.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Holl is terrible. An absolute piece of garbage. And Dubas and Keefe kept him on the team and playing important minutes. If he’s back I’ll take up knitting for the winter

Holl at $2M was a bargain. When he and Muzzin were together they were one of thr best shutdown pairings in the league. He plays tough minutes, not glory minutes in the offensive zone,. Effectively killed penalties against star players, his value to the Leafs exceeded his pay among a cap strapped team of "Sunsine List" stars.

Here is the REAL litmus test as to his worth. Watch what he is given on the open market. You want to bet he gets a nice raise?

Now name for me the current Leaf D Man who is going to replace his heavy minutes and penalty killing alone. All for $2M,. 20% of Marners salary.

He isn't Lindstrom or Bobby Orr, but for his salary, he was a steal. Don't blame him for the fact that Leafs don't have a true #1 who can eat 22+ mnutes on both ends of the ice.

All Leaf fans see is some of the decisions he makes in corners under pressure where without support (that Muzzin was good at) he floundered at times.

They don't remember his posiitoning in front or simple play to get it out rather than coughing up the puck.

This isn't specific to you but I often wonder if todays hockey fans watch other teams. He will be in demand this offseason I guarantee it. Ask yourself "why"?

 

[Nineteen67]

Based on his PC Treliving doesn’t seem very confident. Why did he have to go on about Calgary?

My first impression is he’s not going to get the job done.

 

[justashadowof]

If Dubas offers the GM job, I'm sure Pridham is gone

Any hockey man of a modicum of intelligence knows what becoming Kyle Dubas' general manager means. It means being a general manager in title only while continuing to be an assistant general manager. That might appeal to some people.

 

[Leafsfan74]

We won't be trading Morgan Rielly.

But it's funny you say that, because a lot of people hold the same opinion about Willy, when he's clearly been inferior to Matthews & Marner. Just look at the stat sheet - Willy has less points than those guys, less hits (7 total hits in 2 years vs Matthews 70 hits for example), plays much worse defense, has worse plus minus despite getting the easier assignments, is a ghost for periods or games at a time...and yet people think he's been great and Matthews and Marner are chockers.

If enough GMs hold the same opinions, now would be a great time to sell high on Willy.

For me, I would trade Marner before Willy. Though in my world both are replaced. Indeed, sell high.

Reilly is overpaid though at the time he took less than market value, that is how insane and scarce the D market was when he signed.

I never saw him as a #1 and he is being paid similar to one. If I am a GM and I see a $2M difference between a 1b (generously) and a true #1, I am finding savings elsewhere and grabbing the legit #1, but that's just me.

I hope our new GM is just being coy, as he should, and that the core is broken up with a good return and vital cap space opening up.

The overweight salaries up top was always a bad model. The players got what they could, that extra million or two each potentially cost the a Cup. That's the Salary Cap world but they are too young to understand.

If they never win a Cup in their careers they will appreciate it...

 

[rumman]

Don't think I agree with that. Shanahan was clearly unimpressed with Dubas not committing to continue as Leafs GM at that end of season presser. When he decided to move on, Treliving seemed like a totally viable replacement. We'll see how it turns out, but as others have expressed, I am enthused about seeing what our new GM can accomplish over the next month.

Shanahan has to have a better handle on this team, I mean how didn’t he see the Judas move coming from Dubas in the first place? Maybe he realizes this and it’s why his NY condo is for sale and he’ll be around more? Being the victim of a coo isn’t a good look, but he was never going to be a good president and is just realizing he can’t mail it in any longer imo………

 

[Warden of the North]

Based on his PC Treliving doesn’t seem very confident. Why did he have to go on about Calgary?

My first impression is he’s not going to get the job done.

Burke was confident. Too confident.

I dont think judging confidence by press availabilities is a predictor of success

 

[rumman]

I’m still waiting for someone to make an argument for Shanny instead of one against Dubas. Where’s his track record as an exec? He presided over the changes to the league and the team that most people on here seem to hate.

Shanahan isn’t equally to blame, he’s more to blame. He ruined the team when he hire Dubas as GM, nothing but failure since, unless your a Presiden’s Trophy kind of fan………

You do not find Ekblads, Petros, Theordores, Montours at Value Village. Shanny inherited Rielly and has not developed another top pairing dman in 9 years. The Sabres have Dahlin and Power and are closing the gap.

Yup, if he wants quality on the D he’s going to have to part with some of the quality up front……..

 

[Nineteen67]

Burke was confident. Too confident.

I dont think judging confidence by press availabilities is a predictor of success

He didn’t impress me, at all. He may do a good job but he came across as weak and incompetent.

 

[justashadowof]

As far as I'm concerned, Auston Matthews' benchmark contract should be David Pastrnak's deal ($11.25M aav) including term. I love the abilities of Auston Matthews and all that but Pastrnak is now the better player of the two, less fragile, a bit harder, better production in the playoffs, higher level defensive awareness. You pay a bit of a premium to keep a player in a Canadian city so the premium is matching Pastrnak's deal. This $15M aav for 3 years is insanity. I guess if it were between losing the player for nothing and paying an unearned premium for 3 more years you reluctantly do it but never with a NMC.

 

[rumman]

One thing everyone can agree on is the team seems to be in much better hands today than it was at seasons end.

BT had better like hard work because he’s got his hands full fixing this mess, “git her done”, maybe he replaces the tiara with the hard hat they use in Calgary for the player of the game???

 

[Smif]

Based on his PC Treliving doesn’t seem very confident. Why did he have to go on about Calgary?

My first impression is he’s not going to get the job done.

That's surprising to hear, I think everyone else has said the opposite.

 

[justashadowof]

He didn’t impress me, at all. He may do a good job but he came across as weak and incompetent.

You know this isn't some newly promoted former Assistant GM but someone who has run an NHL team in a hockey hotbed for a decade already?

 

[justashadowof]

BT had better like hard work because he’s got his hands full fixing this mess, “git her done”, maybe he replaces the tiara with the hard hat they use in Calgary for the player of the game???

In Alberta, the hard hat means to the players those people who do the dangerous hard work in the freezing cold and scorching heat of summer. In Toronto, the hard hat means to the players those people who have taken a year too long finishing their investment condo.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Based on his PC Treliving doesn’t seem very confident. Why did he have to go on about Calgary?

My first impression is he’s not going to get the job done.

Win a cup? Most GM's don't win a cup. Kyle couldn't do it. We'll see if Treliving can do better than Kyle given the amount of talent he has. For some reason the fans feel uneasy about the GM shake-up, but truth is TOR still has many good players under contract. If BT has to move one of the "core 4", he still has a very competitive team going into next season.

Matthews C
Tavares C
Nylander RW
Marner RW
Knies LW
Laferty RW/LW
Jarnkrok LW/RW
RIelly LD
Brodie RD
McCabe LD
Liljegren RD
Timmons RD
GIo LD
Murray G
Woll G
Samsonov RFA G

If TOR can get a deal done with Samsonov, I'd say they have a very good goalie situation. Woll is very promising and Samsonov had a good season last year. Most of Toronto's D are signed. Gio is questionable. His age might be finally catching up to him. Murray might retire. Muzzin is on contract for 1 more year, but he might be done too.

Toronto needs 2xD and 5-6 forwards to fill the 3rd /4th lines. I'd say that everything can be achieved before next season.

The most challenging thing is Matthews: if he stays someone else might have to be dealt. If he goes you have to replace him with a C.