Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Mr Knies Guy]

I hate the hiring but this is what I'm gathering from it:

I think core 4 will be shaken up this off-season. Shanny approves the deals but probably liked Brad because he's well connected and can go fish for deals from all over the NHL. This is big for Shanny because he needs someone like this. Brad's weakness was giving out contracts (giving long term deals to guys into late 30's) but I think Shanny wont approve any of that nonsense.

So now Shanny has his new puppet and will use Brad for where he is best - trying to find the best trade deals. From there, they will make a decision on the best one. I think this is where Shanny is going with this hire. Can't give Brad free reign because he's made a lot of mistakes. So if you can watch him and let him go scour the market for trades - that's where he's most valuable.

I wish you to be right but unfortunately, nothing we've seen recently from media and if what Shanny said/did with calling the top players to assure them of the intention to keep them here is true, then we are in for a wasted 100 pt regular season, yet again.
Then Friedman says yesterday, all but confirming CJ's reporting last week, that Treliving is all aboard the run it back train and doesn't expect any major moves.
Just an utter disappointment all around

 

[AuraSphere]

ok so when is Keefe getting fired

 

[leafs in five]

Peace? It will start a war.

just meant it would make everyone furious

 

[ToDavid]

3.75m with one year remaining on his contract. Mayfield should be cheaper and won't cost you any assets. Andersson would be a nice add but you'd have to move out Lily and maybe Brodie.

I’m not so sure about Mayfield being cheaper. He’s got some pretty strong hype in the Islanders defensive system the past few years. I like him if the price is right but I have a hunch a GM is going to give him a bad contract this offseason.

 

[LeafGrief]

Give Liljegren more rope.. he may not have that Montour offensive upside but he’s a strong two way defender, with good mobility, puck skills, and a hard shot.

That's one. Still need a bit more. We couldn't transition the puck out of our zone against Florida's forecheck to save our lives. We looked like the Bruins ffs.

Liljegren is a good young player, but what we need more than Montour is the Muzzin replacement. 23 minutes a night of tough matchups, physically imposing, can make the breakout passes and chip in a few goals or a cross seam feed. I'd be targeting Provorov or Orlov. Hopefully Liljegren and Timmins both take steps forward as well. We really need a homegrown defender who can be a top4 staple.

 

[The Masters]

I wish you to be right but unfortunately, nothing we've seen recently from media and if what Shanny said/did with calling the top players to assure them of the intention to keep them here is true, then we are in for a wasted 100 pt regular season, yet again.
Then Friedman says yesterday, all but confirming CJ's reporting last week, that Treliving is all aboard the run it back train and doesn't expect any major moves.
Just an utter disappointment all around

They have to play nice nice right now. The key is Matthews extension so it would be wise if Tre doesnt rock the boat and doesnt say anything definitive about his moves. Once Matthews signs, he can go to town and start shaking it up.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

What time is the presser?

 

[SprDaVE]

What time is the presser?

Not announced yet. I'd suspect it to be early afternoon.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I think we’ve already seen the best of him, not worth a raise let alone a big one, let some other team make that mistake……..

 

[Mess]

We honestly need a two way guy. A Brandon Montour guy IMO. We need more offense from the back end. I think we had one of the lowest offensive output from the back end.

Yes we did have among the lowest offense from the defense which is not a good combination with 4 forwards eating up 1/2 your salary cap.

That means essentially your bottom 6 forwards are supplying your secondary scoring.

That is how you end up in the playoffs going 7 games with only 2 goals for and nearly get swept in the process.

Treliving does believe in a strong defense and I expect rebuilding the Leafs Dcore will be among his top priorities as good teams are built from the goalie out.

 

[nuck]

Sounds like the core stays, but wholesale changes on D.

But honestly what are the chances Friedmann had ANY real discussions relating to this with the newly hired GM or that the GM had made any plans yet? Zero I imagine. Some times they just make noise because they abhor a silence. Click Click right? So we know the core is staying because Shanny called them to reassure them after the Dubas announcement but there is a ton of smoke out there about making change so what's left but the D?

This is certainly possible but way too early considering Willie might have $10M in his sights and AM may have decided no contract discussion before July 1 because he intends to drop an ridiculous last second offer out there so they have no time to shop him. I'm sure the core stays if nobody wants a raise but how likely is that? Its more likely that EF may be being fed a bit of info to counteract a sky is falling in Leafland narrative.

 

[United35]

I wish you to be right but unfortunately, nothing we've seen recently from media and if what Shanny said/did with calling the top players to assure them of the intention to keep them here is true, then we are in for a wasted 100 pt regular season, yet again.
Then Friedman says yesterday, all but confirming CJ's reporting last week, that Treliving is all aboard the run it back train and doesn't expect any major moves.
Just an utter disappointment all around

I think it’s smart business to call the core and say what Shanny did. And leak it too.

Your not doing your job properly by declaring to the Toronto media, “yes, we absolutely will be breaking up the core 4”

I think it shows desperation and you won’t get the best trade like that.

Why commit to something that may just not be there?

For example, you want to buy a house by the end of summer and declared this to you family and friends, but the only house in your search area all summer is a lemon and needs a lot of work, do you just go ahead and buy the house because it’s nearing the end of summer?

Sometimes patience works too. Or at the very least keeping your cards close to your chest…

Personally I think trading Matthews, Marner, or Nylander when Tavares is off the books in 24 months is stupid.

However, if you can get a hockey trade out of moving one of them, and it makes sense short term, medium term and long term, fine.

 

[francis246]

Yeah they'd prob move one of those guys, but they'd need to add more IMO. I feel like we'd need to target Andersson (who is awesome) and then maybe a prospect and another player. Coleman would be interesting.

For me it would have to be similar to Eichel deal, so something like Andersson, Lindholm, Coronato, 1st round pick. That would be an intriguing offer IMO. For some that may still not be enough but I’d be open to that as a base or starting point.

 

[Trapper]

Yes we did have among the lowest offense from the defense which is not a good combination with 4 forwards eating up 1/2 your salary cap.

That means essentially your bottom 6 forwards are supplying your secondary scoring.

That is how you end up in the playoffs going 7 games with only 2 goals for and nearly get swept in the process.

Treliving does believe in a strong defense and I expect rebuilding the Leafs Dcore will be among his top priorities as good teams are built from the goalie out.

Building from the net out with a strong defence is never a bad way to go. This I’m on board with.

I still think it’s a mistake to bring back the core, we need a different voice, dynamic and play style on the ice. Guess they need to see it again.

 

[Rob Brown]

For me it would have to be similar to Eichel deal, so something like Andersson, Lindholm, Coronato, 1st round pick. That would be an intriguing offer IMO. For some that may still not be enough but I’d be open to that as a base or starting point.

That's more than Eichel, though - player wise he only pulled Tuch and Krebs.

I don't think we'd get Andersson and Lindholm, personally.

 

[Mess]

Point of interest..

When Treliving was hired as GM in Calagay he inherited both Giordano and TJ Brodie on Defense and eventually walked away from both.

Now he has them both back again in Toronto. Not sure either 40 year Gio or Brodie are in his plans going forward and along with Holl the 3 likely Dmen to be replaced to go with Rielly, McCabe and Liljegren.

 

[hockeywiz542]

My bet is that Treliving will be announced Thursday but to also watch for Shane Doan to be brought in some capacity (Auston's childhood hero).

Nick Kypreos: The Leafs GM question is answered. Now it’s Auston Matthews’ turn

Like he did with Matthew Tkachuk, Treliving will quickly need to understand if Matthews’ heart is still in it when it comes to playing in Canada.

www.thestar.com

With Jason Spezza following Dubas out the door, there’s been buzz about another ex-NHLer joining the mix in Leafs management. Some have linked Shane Doan as a possibility to the Leafs, considering his ties to Treliving from their days together with the Phoenix/Arizona Coyotes ...

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Building from the net out with a strong defence is never a bad way to go. This I’m on board with.

I still think it’s a mistake to bring back the core, we need a different voice, dynamic and play style on the ice. Guess they need to see it again.

I'm with you. Honestly, it's mind boggling to me how many posters favour bringing back the core that has won virtually nothing. The word "mistake" doesn't even begin to define the futility of doing so.

 

[Trapper]

I'm with you. Honestly, it's mind boggling to me how many posters favour bringing back the core that has won virtually nothing. The word "mistake" doesn't even begin to define the futility of doing so.

I’ve never seen an organization that has had to manipulate as much around 4 guys to win. And still end up in the same place. It’s almost as if these guys are the support to the depth.

 

[Zero1]

Once those NMCs kick in it’s over for the Leafs. Matthews and Marner get all the leverage. If you think they got overpaid as RFAs with no leverage, just wait until they’re UFAs.

They’ll get everything on their next contract (AAV/Term/Signing Bonus/Full NMC).

If that’s the way they want to go then at least start the conversation with JT about waiving the NMC and move on from Keefe.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I’ve never seen an organization that has had to manipulate as much around 4 guys to win. And still end up in the same place. It’s almost as if these guys are the support to the depth.

Coaches, assistant coaches, goalies, D, 3rd and 4th lines have all changed some a few times. Same results

 

[ICBM]

Treliving was chosen by Shanny because he is a wheeler-dealer and has balls. Shanny needs playoff success to save his skin. He needs new players to succeed, and there is no time for drafting and developing. It's now or never. There will be an attempt to retool. Waste of time, but Shanny is going to stay for a couple more years and get a lot of money.

Dubas left the Leafs with a flawed core lining up for a pay raise and very few good prospects in the pipeline. There is nothing to offer in a trade except for core players or picks. There is no depth. I'd blow it up and start from scratch.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Suntouchable13]

Treliving was chosen by Shanny because he is a wheeler-dealer and has balls. Shanny needs playoff success to save his skin. He needs new players to succeed, and there is no time for drafting and developing. It's now or never. There will be an attempt to retool. Waste of time, but Shanny is going to stay for a couple more years and get a lot of money.

Dubas left the Leafs with a flawed core lining up for a pay raise and very few good prospects in the pipeline. There is nothing to offer in a trade except for core players or picks. There is no depth. I'd blow it up and start from scratch.

This cup drought could go 60, 70 years, at least. We need something to happen now. Or some of us definitely won’t see a cup in our lifetime.

 

[hockeywiz542]

What time is the presser?

Not announced yet. I'd suspect it to be early afternoon.