Confirmed with Link: Brad Treliving named new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[notbias]

First of all, you should change your user name because you clearly are.

Second, I was only talking about the moves made last season.

If you are referring to the entire tenure of Treliving, then yes it was time to go. There is only so long you can stall or stagnate before, management, then coaching, then core needs adjusting/change. That’s just natural evolution.

Look at Carolina, stuck at the Conference finals. They might need change as well although it could be different from us based on where you are stuck.

He adjusted the core and got worse though... and we may be tasking him to do the same thing.

 

[BertCorbeau]

So Kyle didn't have AM, Marner and Will on ELCs?

What was clearly wrong?

Nylander’s ELC was up when he took over

 

[yubbers]

Dubas had ELCs from the big players? You are describing what Lou did.

Lou and Babs got us to the playoffs out 1st year of AM. Dubas couldn't do better than that for 6 years. Wll this year he got 2 extra playoff wins. lol

Not even close to good enough

 

[notbias]

Lou and Babs got us to the playoffs out 1st year of AM. Dubas couldn't do better than that for 6 years. Wll this year he got 2 extra playoff wins. lol

Not even close to good enough

And Treliving has gotten how far?

 

[ITM]

Flames fan stopping into to say I think this is genuinely a great hire for Toronto. Treliving did so much for the Flames franchise and I feel as though a lot of fans don't realize how much better he was than past Flames GMs, but also how much he was able to do with his hands constantly being tied.

The short of it is, Calgary is not a city a lot of players want to be in and Brad still managed to put together some great teams and make many shrewd trades throughout his tenure. His drafting record is very strong as well. I think he learned a lot of lessons about not getting too tied up in the UFA market, and he improved in that aspect as Flames GM as he went along.

A huge market like Toronto is the perfect place for him. I haven't read through to see your thoughts on the signing, but I just wanted to give an outside perspective.

Thanks for the encouragement!

 

[yubbers]

Nylander’s ELC was up when he took over

Fair. And we all know how that contract went down. At least we didn't see any ore of out of shape Willy. LOL

And Treliving has gotten how far?

Not keen on Treilv. But thanks to Kyle f***ing the organization over last minute.... we're on a bit of a time crunch.

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I have no issues with hiring Treliving considering the available candidates. Based on his pedigree, he should be an upgrade over Dubas, particularly in asset management and contract negotiations.

We are about to enter a tumultuous off season and Treliving is well equipped to navigate the immediate challenges that lie ahead.

 

[notbias]

Fair. And we all know how that contract went down. At least we didn't see any ore of out of shape Willy. LOL

You know Nylander caved on the contract, right?

 

[Clark4Ever]

Flames fan stopping into to say I think this is genuinely a great hire for Toronto. Treliving did so much for the Flames franchise and I feel as though a lot of fans don't realize how much better he was than past Flames GMs, but also how much he was able to do with his hands constantly being tied.

The short of it is, Calgary is not a city a lot of players want to be in and Brad still managed to put together some great teams and make many shrewd trades throughout his tenure. His drafting record is very strong as well. I think he learned a lot of lessons about not getting too tied up in the UFA market, and he improved in that aspect as Flames GM as he went along.

A huge market like Toronto is the perfect place for him. I haven't read through to see your thoughts on the signing, but I just wanted to give an outside perspective.

Thank you for your informed opinion.

 

[notbias]

Fair. And we all know how that contract went down. At least we didn't see any ore of out of shape Willy. LOL


Not keen on Treilv. But thanks to Kyle f***ing the organization over last minute.... we're on a bit of a time crunch.

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

It sounds like Kyle didn't f*** over the organization, it sounds like he tried to get more autonomy, which judging by how Shanny has been handling things, I wish he got.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

It sounds like Kyle didn't f*** over the organization, it sounds like he tried to get more autonomy, which judging by how Shanny has been handling things, I wish he got.

Judging by how Dubas has handled things, I'm glad he didn't get it

 

[yubbers]

You know Nylander caved on the contract, right?

I know he won a game of chicken with Kyle...came back completely out of shape and got a verbal no-trade clause for bailing on his team for half the season.

And yet people wonder why this participation trophy, jogging pants-wearing, koombaya culture team is a joke. THIS WAS ALL SO OBVIOUS!

ANd now that's it's obvious to the rest of you what Kyle is....so many keep doubling down. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

 

[Cor]

 

[ITM]

Oh boy.

Are his hands going to be freer here with Shanahan calling the shots? I mean....unless he's into bondage along with hand tying, no point in him taking this job. lol

If the family connections are accurate, Treliving will have as much freedom as can be had. Still not sure what detriment Shanahan brought if for example the MAF-Hagel deal was a real deal. I would have wanted that deal stopped as well. I think until more comes out, its tough to characterize Dubas' tenure as restrictive. From the draft table to NHL acquisitions, looks to me Dubas had as close to carte blanche as any responsible organization would or could allow.

 

[yubbers]

It sounds like Kyle didn't f*** over the organization, it sounds like he tried to get more autonomy, which judging by how Shanny has been handling things, I wish he got.

Him and Shanny had a deal in place ready to go. He decided to pull the final minute big bluff and lie about not wanting to be anywhere else.

He f***ed the Leafs dude. Cope.

 

[ITM]

Well if Elliotte's reporting it like that...

 

[All Mod Cons]

Wonder who will walk away in free agency under him this time?

Hoping to f*** Alex Kerfoot and Justin Holl.

 

[ACC1224]

Can we move it to Friday? Charity Golf tourney tomorrow.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Eat your heart out fire Dubas crowd. You guys deserve the shit show this team is about to become

 

[1specter]

If the family connections are accurate, Treliving will have as much freedom as can be had. Still not sure what detriment Shanahan brought if for example the MAF-Hagel deal was a real deal. I would have wanted that deal stopped as well. I think until more comes out, its tough to characterize Dubas' tenure as restrictive. From the draft table to NHL acquisitions, looks to me Dubas had as close to carte blanche as any responsible organization would or could allow.

Friedman said that deal wasn't blocked and both Shanahan and Dubas were turned off by Chicago wanting Knies

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

It's not boring. It's putting Treliving on trial without making a single move in Toronto. Expecting perfection too. Was Dubas perfect? He was hardly perfect. He made fundamental mistakes as well as making hasty decisions. Treliving is not my first choice, but I'm willing to give him some time here.

The craziest thing is that many hockey fans on HF crowned Treliving last offseason for getting Hubereau/Weeger/Kadri. Such hypocrites.

Not just those bozos, but the media grifters as well. Everybody thought the Flames and Sens were Cup contenders last summer lol.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Experience has the potential to work for Brad Treliving as Maple Leafs GM

Brad Treliving's various positions as a hockey executive for decades, including GM of the Calgary Flames, could help make it work in Toronto

torontosun.com

Ex-Calgary Flames general manager Brad Treliving smiles after speaking to media. PHOTO BY GAVIN YOUNG /Postmedia Network

With the Leafs, two issues stand out above all: The status of No. 1 centre Auston Matthews, who can be signed to a contract extension on July 1, the same day that a no-move clause kicks in; and the status of coach Sheldon Keefe, who has one year remaining on his contract.

It’s true that Shanahan told the Core Four that it was his intent to see that they all return next season, if each wanted to do so.

Will Treliving feel the same way? What if, during the interview process, he presented a scenario to Shanahan that included a viable way forward without one of Matthews, Mitch Marner or William Nylander? Or will Treliving fall in line with Shanahan’s line of thinking on the Leafs’ nucleus and strive to keep it intact?

The future of captain John Tavares doesn’t require speculation. He has two years remaining on his contract and Tavares has indicated he won’t budge off his no-move clause.

A no-move clause for Marner goes into effect on July 1, while Nylander can submit a 10-team no-trade list that day.

As for the Marner trade rumours? A source said simply the chatter adds up to “nonsense,” noting that that without a GM, there’s no one on the Leafs side who could properly have those discussions with other teams.

As for Keefe, Treliving has time on his side. Treliving could go his own way and bring in a new head coach. He also could decide he wants to get to know Keefe and let the coach work in the final year of his contract before making a decision.

In discussing Treliving with several agents, he was described in varying ways.

One said Treliving is “a ball-buster” and is direct; another said he has found Treliving “very methodical” in his dealings with him.

Treliving seemingly was the choice of Shanahan from Day 1, and though 12 days have passed since Kyle Dubas was fired, it doesn’t sound like Shanahan went too far down the road with other potential candidates.

“Did he make some calls?” a source said. “I would think so, but there was not an exhaustive search.”

Shanahan might have made out well had he promoted assistant general manager and salary cap guru Brandon Pridham, but the latter is said to be satisfied in his current role with the team.

 

[Osmows OReilly]

Eat your heart out fire Dubas crowd. You guys deserve the shit show this team is about to become

Why? The team was already a shitshow under Dumbass lmao.

 

[Zero1]

Brad, I need firing Keefe to be the first move.

Let’s get started on the right page.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Eat your heart out fire Dubas crowd. You guys deserve the shit show this team is about to become

As opposed to the shit show it was already under Dubas?