Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Dekes For Days]

Sometimes, we are also undefeated when he fights. Matthews also scores hat tricks in a winning cause when Reeves fights.

We win when Matthews gets hat tricks? Wow that's crazy! Must be due to something and someone entirely unrelated.

 

[Leaf Fans]

We win when Matthews gets hat tricks? Wow that's crazy! Must be due to something and someone entirely unrelated.

Not always. We lost against Buffalo.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Of the current roster, only Matthews, Liljegren, Woll and Rielly are left from his time here. He did a great job tearing the team down for the rebuild and had some good signings but he had also left us with 2 of some of the worst contracts in the league and a bunch of prospects that didn't even amount to good AHL players. Or else we maybe could've had some solid support players for our core on cheap contracts the last 3 yrs.

He left the Devils in awful shape when he left there and he's done mostly a horrible job the last few years on the island and they are going to continue to be in horrible shape for the next few years being an aging team with a weak prospect pool.

I think you missed a couple of insignificant players: Marner and Nylander.

 

[Havoc]

If this guy doesn't sign Nylander, me and dekes will suddenly be best friends

 

[DraftSchmaft]

If this guy doesn't sign Nylander, me and dekes will suddenly be best friends

Nylander takes the TTC to games lol. The odds of this guy going anywhere is zero. This is his home.

When a player encourages talks to be ongoing during the regular season that's a sign they wish to retire here.

The signing is guaranteed.

 

[thusk]

I think it's that Reaves has been so unbelievably bad in every possible way that even those who would normally try and defend the signing and Treliving's decision to choose him over Lafferty have concluded that it's so indefensible that it's easier to just pretend that decision never happened.

Lafferty played 9 out of the Leaf's 11 playoff games, and was actually our 7th best producing forward on a pretty stacked roster.
Nobody is claiming that Lafferty is some amazing player that can't be replaced. They've simply acknowledged the basic fact that Lafferty is a much better (and cheaper and younger) player than Reaves, Treliving made a choice to choose Reaves over Lafferty, and that decision is currently looking as horrible as almost everyone predicted. That's it.

but knies stole bis spot, if knies was not injured, he would probably played 0 game vs florida and even with sign of reaves, lafferty still had a spot but lost his spot to gregor because he was totally trash in pre-season.

and if reaves didn't work, he will be waived or whatever and thats . BT tried to bring some intangible with reaves, that didn't work, it...its not the end of the world. We dont need to make bigger story than what it is in reality for a 12th foward

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I think you missed a couple of insignificant players: Marner and Nylander.

My thought process was who he had drafted but I included Rielly in there for some reason. Late night lol.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I think you missed a couple of insignificant players: Marner and Nylander.

Wasn't Nylander drafted before Lou got here?

 

[notDatsyuk]

Wasn't Nylander drafted before Lou got here?

So was Reilly - I got confused.

 

[Dekes For Days]

but knies stole bis spot, if knies was not injured, he would probably played 0 game vs florida

Lafferty played in 5 of Knies' 7 playoff games last season, including the game against Florida where he got injured. So... no.
And none of that really matters anyway. The fact is we'd be better off with Lafferty in the 4th line RW spot instead of Reaves, and Treliving is the one who made that decision.

We dont need to make bigger story than what it is in reality for a 12th foward

I think everybody recognizes the relative impact of the mistake, but it doesn't change what happened or the fact that it was a mistake.
The only reason it's still being talked about is because a few people tried to pretend it didn't happen.

 

[Stephen]

Nylander takes the TTC to games lol. The odds of this guy going anywhere is zero. This is his home.

When a player encourages talks to be ongoing during the regular season that's a sign they wish to retire here.

The signing is guaranteed.

Yeah, when you see a guy doing the local guy thing, the rockstar pairing of being a Leaf in Sweden, I don't get the sense he's looking for something else.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

So was Reilly - I got confused.

So was Marner

 

[Dekes For Days]

If this guy doesn't sign Nylander, me and dekes will suddenly be best friends

I expect that he will sign Nylander. I wish it had happened already though. Was hoping we'd get it while in Sweden.

 

[Stephen]

Lafferty played in 5 of Knies' 7 playoff games last season, including the game against Florida where he got injured. So... no.
And none of that really matters anyway. The fact is we'd be better off with Lafferty in the 4th line RW spot instead of Reaves, and Treliving is the one who made that decision.

I think everybody recognizes the relative impact of the mistake, but it doesn't change what happened or the fact that it was a mistake.
The only reason it's still being talked about is because a few people tried to pretend it didn't happen.

Lafferty is so marginal it doesn't matter. His trade to Vancouver has probably opened up a space for Nicholas Robertson to thrive, and good ol' Noah Gregor already won the H2H showdown with Lafferty last Saturday between a 7 point scorer and a 4 point scorer. Who. Cares.

Reaves is also terrible and deserves to be shot into the sun, but the design was for him to fill a completely different purpose.

 

[notbias]

Lou Lam orchestrated a last overall finish and the drafting of Auston Matthews who is likely the best goal scorer in the game.

If and when the Leafs have any real playoff success Auston is going to have to be a big factor in that and Leaf Nation fans will know who it was that will get the true credit even if Treliving's name is the GM of record on his latest contract.

The real trick is going to be to be able to surround him with enough talent by managing the cap correctly, and a big cap relief is coming when Tavares $11 mil contract ends after 2 more seasons, while we simply attempt to make the best of a bad Cap suffocating situation during transition.

Mark down the 2025-26 season where BT has passed all test.

Matthews just got the discount Tavares is going to take... so may want to start hating Brad.

Also... what do you think of the 5 million in dead cap? That is more than the overpay for Tavares.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Yeah, when you see a guy doing the local guy thing, the rockstar pairing of being a Leaf in Sweden, I don't get the sense he's looking for something else.

I still think have the feeling he's not thrilled at the idea of signing before Marner. If we could offer him 11x7 and at the same time, guarantee him we won't be paying Marner more than that I think he might sign today. As it is though, I think me might want to wait until summertime and see how the Marner situation plays out.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Lafferty is so marginal it doesn't matter. His trade to Vancouver has probably opened up a space for Nicholas Robertson to thrive, and good ol' Noah Gregor already won the H2H showdown with Lafferty last Saturday between a 7 point scorer and a 4 point scorer. Who. Cares.

Reaves is also terrible and deserves to be shot into the sun, but the design was for him to fill a completely different purpose.

Lafferty isn't that important on his own, but Reaves has been so bad and on for so many goals against that that a switch like that probably makes a bigger difference than it should. Though the bigger concern is the fact that Treliving made it his first priority to replace a good 4th line RW with a horrific player in his late 30s and lock them into a more expensive 3 year contract that was not only a significant overpayment but couldn't be fully buried. That's very concerning. If one somehow thinks that Reaves over Lafferty was a good decision, then they're free to think that, but all I've heard is people trying to pretend the decision didn't happen.

 

[thusk]

Lafferty played in 5 of Knies' 7 playoff games last season, including the game against Florida where he got injured. So... no.
And none of that really matters anyway. The fact is we'd be better off with Lafferty in the 4th line RW spot instead of Reaves, and Treliving is the one who made that decision.

I think everybody recognizes the relative impact of the mistake, but it doesn't change what happened or the fact that it was a mistake.
The only reason it's still being talked about is because a few people tried to pretend it didn't happen.

and gregor was a better 4th line player than lafferty who lost his spot for gregor. If lafferty would be enough good in camp, he would not be trading and get a spot in line up, he was not so leafs traded to give the spot to gregor... he didn't lost his spot because of reaves but because he was trash when he needed to secure hs roster spot. At least 14 foward had been better than him, thats it and +end of story

 

[Stephen]

Lafferty isn't that important on his own, but Reaves has been so bad and on for so many goals against that that a switch like that probably makes a bigger difference than it should. Though the bigger concern is the fact that Treliving made it his first priority to replace a good 4th line RW with a horrific player in his late 30s and lock them into a more expensive 3 year contract that was not only a significant overpayment but couldn't be fully buried. That's very concerning. If one somehow thinks that Reaves over Lafferty was a good decision, then they're free to think that, but all I've heard is people trying to pretend the decision didn't happen.

I thought Lafferty had good speed but his hands were really bad and couldn’t give us the Engvall with more snarl I thought he was here for.

At his cap hit it doesn’t seem like that much of a loss, although any living breathing pro hockey player in the NHL and AHL is probably more functional than Reaves. Not a referendum on a tough guy. But Reaves is not hitting, not fighting, not doing any appropriate momentum changing work, and unable to play basic hockey.

Luckily we have guys like Robertson pushing for more ice time and we can fill that Lafferty role internally.

 

[Stephen]

and gregor was a better 4th line player than lafferty who lost his spot for gregor. If lafferty would be enough good in camp, he would not be trading and get a spot in line up, he was not so leafs traded to give the spot to gregor... he didn't lost his spot because of reaves but because he was trash when he needed to secure hs roster spot. At least 14 foward had been better than him, thats it and +end of story

Problem with Lafferty is he seemed to be losing his grip on a third line job and sinking into the 4th line which made him a little pricy for that role.

I concede if you compared him to Reaves 1 v 1 he’s a normal hockey player and far better. But we also didn’t know Reaves would be unwilling and capable to do the specialist task he was brought in for.

 

[ACC1224]

Problem with Lafferty is he seemed to be losing his grip on a third line job and sinking into the 4th line which made him a little pricy for that role.

I concede if you compared him to Reaves 1 v 1 he’s a normal hockey player and far better. But we also didn’t know Reaves would be unwilling and capable to do the specialist task he was brought in for.

I’d take Reaves in a fight over Lafferty every time. If they were competing for the same role (they weren’t) they kept the right one.

 

[kb]

I’d take Reaves in a fight over Lafferty every time. If they were competing for the same role (they weren’t) they kept the right one.

Does fighting in today's NHL require a full time dedicated role player who can't play otherwise?

 

[authentic]

Im sure he is having sleepless nights over the Nylander contract, the price has gone up since the summer. Nylander would have signed 10 million x 8 years in the summer. I doubt he would sign that now.

Then again maybe he wouldn’t have put up the performance he has and maybe this Willy leads us to a Stanley Cup?

 

[Dekes For Days]

and gregor was a better 4th line player than lafferty

Gregor is not a better 4th line player. He is a cheaper 4th line player. It's amazing how much emphasis some people have put on picking up a few points in pre-season.
Lafferty was traded for cap related reasons, after we wasted 1.35m on Reaves to take his 4th line RW spot and create those cap issues for no reason.

I thought Lafferty had good speed but his hands were really bad and couldn’t give us the Engvall with more snarl I thought he was here for.
At his cap hit it doesn’t seem like that much of a loss, although any living breathing pro hockey player in the NHL and AHL is probably more functional than Reaves. Not a referendum on a tough guy. But Reaves is not hitting, not fighting, not doing any appropriate momentum changing work, and unable to play basic hockey.
Luckily we have guys like Robertson pushing for more ice time and we can fill that Lafferty role internally.

Robertson has been really good, but he's largely replacing the spot Minten had, which he probably should have had from the start.
We do thankfully have some quality internal 4th line depth, so that has helped mitigate the loss of Lafferty.
It unfortunately doesn't get rid of the dead cap (or worse) we have invested in Reaves for the next 3 years though.

 

[colchar]

Nylander takes the TTC to games lol.

So?

And "lol"? Are you 12?

When a player encourages talks to be ongoing during the regular season that's a sign they wish to retire here.

Wait, what???