Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Nylanderthal]

If I were Keefe I wouldn't give Reaves a regular shift. I would instead slot him in the first or second line irregularly as needed especially after the other team takes liberties. And then ask either Willy or Marner to double shift the 4th line. Reaves would play maybe 6-8 shifts a game. A tool you use when you need to send messages or light a fire up the team's ass with a hit or crash the net or rough people up after the whistle.

This shouldn't be hard ffs.

This might be the worst idea I’ve read in my 15ish years navigating these boards, and that’s saying something.
You want a guy who gets caved in every shift by fourth liners to take a shift with the line who faces the best matchups league wide every night?
Holy smokes

 

[Dekes For Days]

Reeves Simmonds two different type of players Simmonds was a former skill player and a better leaf not even close

They're just trying really hard to avoid the Lafferty vs. Reaves comparison, because Treliving very obviously chose wrong.

 

[ACC1224]

Reeves Simmonds two different type of players Simmonds was a former skill player and a better leaf not even close

He had some skill at one point but that wasn't the player he was here nor was that the reason he was brought here.

 

[Lemontree]

They're just trying really hard to avoid the Lafferty vs. Reaves comparison, because Treliving very obviously chose wrong.

Noah Gregor took Lafferty's job during his PTO. It's Lafferty's fault he failed to make any impression at all post trade deadline and playoffs.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Noah Gregor took Lafferty's job during his PTO. It's Lafferty's fault he failed to make any impression at all post trade deadline and playoffs.

Reaves was handed Lafferty's money and job in the offseason. If things were based on merit, we'd have both Lafferty and Gregor, but Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty.
And it was very obviously and predictably the wrong decision.

 

[Havoc]

Under achieving yet still bordering the top 10 in points %.

You guys have fun crying about over achieving journeymen like Lafferty instead while I count the wins we're going to be piling up soon.

 

[ACC1224]

Noah Gregor took Lafferty's job during his PTO. It's Lafferty's fault he failed to make any impression at all post trade deadline and playoffs.

They traded Lafferty and signed Gregor off his PTO the next day. It can't be any more obvious who replaced who.

 

[Lemontree]

Reaves was handed Lafferty's money and job in the offseason. If things were based on merit, we'd have both Lafferty and Gregor, but Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty.
And it was very obviously and predictably the wrong decision.

Ohhh...the Dubas fan club want jobs awarded based on merit now. Interesting. What did Lafferty do in his time as a Maple Leaf that would "award" him a roster spot?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Ohhh...the Dubas fan club want jobs awarded based on merit now. Interesting. What did Lafferty do in his time as a Maple Leaf that would "award" him a roster spot?

The only one bringing up Dubas here is you. Every fan should always want jobs awarded based on merit. Lafferty did a heck of a lot more than Reaves to earn a roster spot.

They traded Lafferty and signed Gregor off his PTO the next day. It can't be any more obvious who replaced who.

They signed Reaves, gave him Lafferty's money, gave him Lafferty's 4th line winger job, and then traded Lafferty.
It couldn't be any more obvious who replaced who. But anything to avoid the comparison.

 

[ACC1224]

Removing Lafferty from the picture opens room to sign fourth-line left wing Noah Gregor, a player Treliving targeted among many tryout options, to a one-year contract near the league minimum.

Moreover, it permits the Leafs to extend the tryout of teenage surprise Fraser Minten, a pure centreman on his $845,833 entry-level deal.

Maple Leafs trade Sam Lafferty to Canucks to open space for camp standouts

Were the Maple Leafs' cap puzzle not so "complex," as Sheldon Keefe put it Saturday night, they would have kept Sam Lafferty, not traded him to the Canucks as they did Sunday afternoon.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Dekes For Days]

Maple Leafs trade Sam Lafferty to Canucks to open space for camp standouts

Were the Maple Leafs' cap puzzle not so "complex," as Sheldon Keefe put it Saturday night, they would have kept Sam Lafferty, not traded him to the Canucks as they did Sunday afternoon.

www.sportsnet.ca

They didn't need to "open up space" for league minimum players. They could have had Lafferty, Gregor, and Minten all on the team.
They needed to open up space to have Reaves. We had the space for one of Reaves or Lafferty at >1m. Treliving chose Reaves.

 

[MCR74]

He's no Ken Holland, but l expected more.

 

[Gallagbi]

Gregor's a LWer. I cant ever recall Laff playing LW but he can play C and RW.

 

[Niagara Bill]

An honest question. WHAT? Has Treliving ever done to make Shanny or any of us think enough of him to handle the GM position of our Toronto Maple Leafs. History now has shown Tkachuk, Gaudreau results, couldn't be worse todate AND now we have to trust him with Willie N.
Sign Willie or Trade Willie is not important, what is important is to win Stanley, and Willie is a huge key, one way or the other. I have no faith in Treliving...how can anyone?

 

[hotpaws]

An honest question. WHAT? Has Treliving ever done to make Shanny or any of us think enough of him to handle the GM position of our Toronto Maple Leafs. History now has shown Tkachuk, Gaudreau results, couldn't be worse todate AND now we have to trust him with Willie N.
Sign Willie or Trade Willie is not important, what is important is to win Stanley, and Willie is a huge key, one way or the other. I have no faith in Treliving...how can anyone?

You're right , if you don't have faith then no one should , lol .

funny thing about history is how it keeps getting revised , the majority thought he got a good haul for Tkachuk , hard to to predict Hub's play would go from well over a ppg to 50ish pts

i have no idea what happened with Johnny hockey , if he knew he wouldn't re-sign and kept him then it was a huge fail on his part , chances are he thought he'd re-sign , whether that was just wishful thinking i have no idea . Anyway Johnny's having a shit season so maybe not re-signing him was lucky .

as far as Tre goes the jury's still out

 

[Niagara Bill]

You're right , if you don't have faith then no one should , lol .

funny thing about history is how it keeps getting revised , the majority thought he got a good haul for Tkachuk , hard to to predict Hub's play would go from well over a ppg to 50ish pts

i have no idea what happened with Johnny hockey , if he knew he wouldn't re-sign and kept him then it was a huge fail on his part , chances are he thought he'd re-sign , whether that was just wishful thinking i have no idea . Anyway Johnny's having a shit season so maybe not re-signing him was lucky .

as far as Tre goes the jury's still out

Jury is out, but aside from screwing up Calgary, what has he done, what is his successes. To me he is more Gerry McNamara than Punch Imlach or even Brian Burke ( who never really had top drawer success).

 

[hotpaws]

Jury is out, but aside from screwing up Calgary, what has he done, what is his successes. To me he is more Gerry McNamara than Punch Imlach or even Brian Burke ( who never really had top drawer success).

how much success did MvPhee have before Vegas ?

basically you never know , that's why i'll give him a chance and sit on the sidelines while watching Dubies boys lose there shit

 

[ACC1224]

Gregor's a LWer. I cant ever recall Laff playing LW but he can play C and RW.

This place kills me.

 

[Gallagbi]

This place kills me.

Because wingers have positions? I get it though, i saw someone suggest Reaves is replacing a guy who played 18 games last year and spent most of the year floating between the NHL and Marlies.

Realistically Tre had options. He could have chosen to play Laff on his off wing all year, he could have skipped Reaves and went with a speedy 4th line. Personally I havent seen any value in Reaves yet to suggest the combo he chose is a good one

 

[Leaf Fans]

They're just trying really hard to avoid the Lafferty vs. Reaves comparison, because Treliving very obviously chose wrong.

There are more things different than there are the same with those two. Gregor won the job over Lafferty for the Leafs though.

 

[Menzinger]

An honest question. WHAT? Has Treliving ever done to make Shanny or any of us think enough of him to handle the GM position of our Toronto Maple Leafs. History now has shown Tkachuk, Gaudreau results, couldn't be worse todate AND now we have to trust him with Willie N.
Sign Willie or Trade Willie is not important, what is important is to win Stanley, and Willie is a huge key, one way or the other. I have no faith in Treliving...how can anyone?

It's imo fairly telling that the most supportive posts about him tend to be folks trying to contextualize his bad moves more so than promoting his positive ones.

He wouldn't have been my choice to take the GM role, but he does deserve a fair chance for our assessment. Lots of questions need to be answered one way or the other.

His offseason moves were fair gambles though most haven't come close to paying off yet. We'll see how things stand with the team by next Huky before I give him a proper grade

 

[Dekes For Days]

There are more things different than there are the same with those two. Gregor won the job over Lafferty for the Leafs though.

Reaves and Lafferty were both 4th line liners, both RWers, both making a comparable amount on the cap, and we only had the space for one.
A league minimum LWer has nothing to do with anything. Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty, and that was a horrible choice.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Reaves and Lafferty were both 4th line liners, both RWers, both making a comparable amount on the cap, and we only had the space for one.
A league minimum LWer has nothing to do with anything. Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty, and that was a horrible choice.

Well no, that is not what happened. Gregor earned a spot on the team. Lafferty was the odd man out. It may turn out to be a bad choice, but there is no conclusion drawn yet. No serious one anyway.

 

[Niagara Bill]

how much success did MvPhee have before Vegas ?

basically you never know , that's why i'll give him a chance and sit on the sidelines watching Dubies boys lose there shit

But we do know. McPhee had success in Washington.
Don't answer a question with a give him a chance. Dubas was given a chance as he was uoung. Treliving is not young.
We deserve success...56 yrs.

 

[Niagara Bill]

It's imo fairly telling that the most supportive posts about him tend to be folks trying to contextualize his bad moves more so than promoting his positive ones.

He wouldn't have been my choice to take the GM role, but he does deserve a fair chance for our assessment. Lots of questions need to be answered one way or the other.

His offseason moves were fair gambles though most haven't come close to paying off yet. We'll see how things stand with the team by next Huky before I give him a proper grade

Don't want to grade him, AFTER, he gives WN away.
We all know a room problem existed in TO ML, so as a knew jerk he brought in Disco Dan Reaves to change the music...What mistake, I thought he may have been in tune with the NHL insiders and GMs, but apparently he is not.
His body of work does not give me confidence.