We can ageee to disagree cause I would rather have dumba he’s more two way then all offence no d when we don’t have a stud dman to offset that
Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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thusk
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For a team who drastically need a big raise offensivly coming from their D, not sure hes really an upgrade
A guy since 2019(264 game) who had 11 points less than holl at 5v5 (280 game) as primary upgrade?
I just don’t think you pay 4 mill for a bottom pair dman that’s all might work out I just would have rather we traded for tanev or something who’s only 500 000 more but is wayyyyyyyyyy better and slots everyone properly than we can determine if the baccend needs more of anything
That is only two years away, and if they can re-sign Nylander, their big three at that point would still have a few years of their prime years left. Whether they should try to trade Marner to improve the team is a different scenario than having to trade one of the big contracts.
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when they signed Bertuzzi and Domi to their tryouts none of the prospects were injured.
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For this season, I still like the idea of having a 23 man roster with more options at D.
Building the D is going to be really tough considering they did everything backwards.
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thusk
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But you still dont have any D able to create anything offensivly. Thats meaning by exemple when you are in offensive zone, youre d are not enough good to make play at blue line to keep the play in offensive zone or are not enough dangerous... so opposite team will let your d doing whatever they want and they will juste protect Foward in front of the net.
After people start to bashing matthews, marner nylander tavares and whatever to doesn't create enough offensive at 3v5 and dont understand why... Its what lack of d able to create offensive can create
Yes its not sexy get klinberg on 3rd pair but if you can have game like rielly 23-24 and klinberg 16-17 by game... you will have at least 1 d extremely dangerous in the offensive side and able to help foward group to create offensive when needed 40min or 2/3 of the game.
When your trailing you can raise ice time of klinberg and when you want to protect your lead drop his ice time.
But you dont have the same exact problem than last season or 3 years and 4 years ago vs habs and columbus when Muzzin get hurt... when rielly was not on the ice, leafs was unable to create anything.
When Dubas took over the Leaf strength was forwards. He traded for Muzzin, signed Brodie and when the young Swedes developed our strength became the blue line. Brad signed mostly forwards and flipped our strength. The team we have now needs another defenseman, and a decent one. I think Brad knows that and will make a deal a before the deadline. He has done a good job so far. The deadline will tell much more. Right now a passing grade. That could change.
PromisedLand
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Treliving is Dubas 2.0
- Overpay
- Keep the same trash coach
- Let mattews-marner run the club even when they suck ass 5 on 5 and haven't done shit together in playoffs
- Overpay
- Keep the same trash coach
- Let mattews-marner run the club even when they suck ass 5 on 5 and haven't done shit together in playoffs
Jimmy Firecracker
Backcheck, Forecheck, Paycheque.
Kampf has no role on this team. Stupid re-signing.
Reaves had two “impactful” games and has done shit f***ing all since.
Klingberg is a disaster.
Three money-sucking moves that have turned out terribly.
Reaves had two “impactful” games and has done shit f***ing all since.
Klingberg is a disaster.
Three money-sucking moves that have turned out terribly.
LeafalCrusader
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Early but the Klingberg Domi Reaves and Bertuzzi signings aren't looking good. Hating the Kampf deal. Lafferty's scored again for Vancouver to have as many goals as Bertuzzi so far this year lol.
Combine that with the dumpster fire that is currently the Calgary Flames roster he's assembled and I'm less than enthusiastic about the man's abillity to build this team into a contender.
Combine that with the dumpster fire that is currently the Calgary Flames roster he's assembled and I'm less than enthusiastic about the man's abillity to build this team into a contender.
Its another first round loss waiting to happen. Clearly ownership is content with mediocrity otherwise major changes would have happened a long time ago.
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Well I think, the plan with Reaves was to fear the oppenents a bit.
The Team Last year was too well-behaved. Perhaps Shenn was a guy who also could give contra, but the others?
Nevertheless the Season until yet is not intoxicating. I am looking forward to see the guys against Boston and Buffalo this week and will make a resume.
The Team Last year was too well-behaved. Perhaps Shenn was a guy who also could give contra, but the others?
Nevertheless the Season until yet is not intoxicating. I am looking forward to see the guys against Boston and Buffalo this week and will make a resume.
thusk
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I stop right there, stats at 5v5 since 2020 in NHL...
Yes outside of game 1 and 2 matthews and marner had been pretty bad, everybody will be agree but doesn't change they are 2 of best 5v5 player around NHL
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56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
As it stands, it was the Summer of Bad.
notDatsyuk
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Excellent picking - if you include the 20-21 season but not the 19-20, you get that. If you include the 19-20 season, or start with the 21-22 season, they aren't.
In fact, if you select from the 22-23 season, they come in 18th and 19th, with Willy 20th.
This is preseason hockey and means very little .. only thing really disappointing is Kilnberg but only because he is damaged goods .. soon he will go on LTIR .. talk around team is he is not even a 3rd pair guy now .. and Rielly is superior choice on PP .. Klinberg is near da end of his hockey career
GoonieFace
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At least they are all 1 year deals, he can evaluate how things look and than begin to put his stamp on the team. It can’t be any worse that what Dubas did and left him with.
thusk
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Maybe its not as high but they still amount top productive player in the defensive end and amount top foward defensive side of the puck too..
notDatsyuk
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Among the top offensive players, but I'm not sure about defensive. Just outside the top 100 in goals allowed at ES among forwards, and Mitch was tied with Holl for most goals allowed by a Leaf last year.
Oddly enough, Matthews seems to be the best defensively, and Tavares the worst. The more time Nylander spent with Matthews and Marner with Tavares, the better Willy's numbers got and the worse Mitch's got.
PromisedLand
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If you drop the season with "Canadian Division" below are the stats 5 on 5 for scoring:
Context: Matthews-Marner exclusively play together both 11AAV players; other players on the list did not necessarily require another 11 AAV player to prop up 5 on 5 scoring
For the same period even strength goal differential (Note marner is ranked 36th league wide for this duration)
Once again in terms of context: most of the players even on this list do not have another 11 AAV player on their line propping up this stat.
I expect a GM and a Coach to balance the line up and game plan accorinding to the roster assembled and not force lines or duos that do not help make team deep or challenge opposition teams to think differently.
Matthews-Marner have been a failure in the playoffs especially; yet this coach doesn't change anything. I do not understand the strategy of repeating the same thing over and over and over when that strategy has been nothing but abject failure
