Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Sypher04]

We’re basically where we were at when Schenn officially signed with Nashville, needing a defenceman that can play with Rielly. I still think Murphy could be someone Treliving has his eye on. Timmins and Robertson as trade chips.

Rielly - Murphy
Brodie - Klingberg
McCabe - Liljegren

Not sure how it would work cap wise or if it’s even possible but assuming Jarnkrok (2.1), Timmins (1.1) and then waiving Giordano (0.8) maybe it can somehow work?

That definitely does slot everyone better. Not totally sold on Murphy but I know he’s a popular target amongst some

 

[LeafChief]

I like what I've seen so far. First two games have been very exciting.

I think we need to add 1 solid D-man as a few above have mentioned. Hanifin would be really nice (if he could be re-signed).

 

[Maple Leaf]

any D?
any G?

 

[RunItBackAgain]

The problem is we can't do much very fast unless we want to spend what few resources we have left. Its going to be a slow transition to a Tre team and it'll probably take at least until the 2025-26 season to get what he wants unless he mortgages what future Dubas hasn't already spent.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The problem is we can't do much very fast unless we want to spend what few resources we have left. Its going to be a slow transition to a Tre team and it'll probably take at least until the 2025-26 season to get what he wants unless he mortgages what future Dubas hasn't already spent.

Which he should do.

 

[Suntouchable13]

The problem is we can't do much very fast unless we want to spend what few resources we have left. Its going to be a slow transition to a Tre team and it'll probably take at least until the 2025-26 season to get what he wants unless he mortgages what future Dubas hasn't already spent.

And by then, Matthews, Marner, and Willy will all be pushing 30 already.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I think we'll need 2 more competent defenders. Gio and Brodie are regressing, and the status quo is not likely to cut it in the playoffs.

Da talk at Scotia to start season is Leafs will make 3 D changes before playoffs .. Gio and Brodie are washed .. great guys but washed .. and Klinberg will be moved to 6th D for PP only and then to LTIR .. to start playoffs Rielly will be back anchoring PP again .. Lily and McCabe to 2nd unit .. new guys will be a no 2 D to play with Rielly and 2 more big tough playoff type D

 

[IPS]

I like what I've seen so far. First two games have been very exciting.

I think we need to add 1 solid D-man as a few above have mentioned. Hanifin would be really nice (if he could be re-signed).

Hanifin would be a dream but do we have the assets to acquire that quality of a D?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Hanifin would be a dream but do we have the assets to acquire that quality of a D?

Every contender does

 

[ToDavid]

Just a bunch of home runs this summer.

 

[rdogg]

Treliving really shit the bed this summer with his horrible signings.

 

[KaN19]

Splashing $12m on Domi, Bertuzzi, and Klingberg could turn out to be a historically bad off-season if they don't start picking up their games soon. Especially when someone like Karlsson was sold off for peanuts.

 

[Jozay]

Lol people were living in the honeymoon phase with Treliving.

Bertuzzi signing was solid and thats about it. All he did was handcuff the team this year.

Ill give him credit for only handing out 1 year deals though

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

He’s done an awful job. I understand everyone wanted to be excited about a new dawn but it’s been really bad.

 

[AlienWorkShop]

Ill give him credit for only handing out 1 year deals though

Yeah, might turn out to be the best legacy of that offseason...

 

[ToneDog]

Looking like Tre has not passed all the tests yet. Well at least he resigned Matty. LOL.

 

[ACC1224]

Looking like Tre has not passed all the tests yet. Well at least he resigned Matty. LOL.

yeah he still has a ways to go. Looks like the stench left by Dubas is harder to remove than we thought.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

We’re basically where we were at when Schenn officially signed with Nashville, needing a defenceman that can play with Rielly. I still think Murphy could be someone Treliving has his eye on. Timmins and Robertson as trade chips.

Rielly - Murphy
Brodie - Klingberg
McCabe - Liljegren

Not sure how it would work cap wise or if it’s even possible but assuming Jarnkrok (2.1), Timmins (1.1) and then waiving Giordano (0.8) maybe it can somehow work?

Things ended on a sour note with Larry Murphy, very unlikely he'd accept an offer to come back.

 

[Fogelhund]

I've said this many times. Don't get too excited by a few wins, or a few losses. It's a long season, and then it's really the playoff results that matter the most.

We made a few signings, that's it. We haven't played a game yet.

He's doing a good job is he? By what measurement?

This is a results business, and he'll be judged on his results, like everyone else. I think some of the signings were ok, some have big question marks. Neither of Matthews or Nylander is signed yet. I think the team lost physicality, not gained, so I think we are currently easier to play against... but then, there is often 25% roster turnover before the start of the playoffs anyway.

I'll be happy to say he did a good job, once we see something besides names on paper.... But this is premature.

By your logic, no one can be assessed in their front office performance in the off-season. Makes for a boring discussion board in the off-season.

We all like to project and predict. Some feel that his moves project to good results. This is why is being discussed. Those that agree or disagree make for good discussion, those that feel it should not be discussed should probably just skip the thread altogether.

I get that, but it's not like we can look at this roster and say... wow, it's really been remade. There aren't significant changes. The key two contracts aren't done yet.

What's been done? Domi, Reaves, Bertuzzi, Klingberg and Jones.

Jones is a 3G, and decent enough... he's basically the best of what's left in August.
Reaves I don't consider a win.
Domi is a question mark for me.
Bertuzzi is a question mark from a health perspective.
Klingberg has been a question mark, as he's been terrible defensively

EDIT NOTES - Domi still a question mark, Bertuzzi hurt, and Klingberg terrible defensively... as expected...
We lost physicality, when we weren't physical enough already.

Mostly, I think it's premature. The changes he's made... all have some questions... so I can't declare this a great, or even good offseason. It's just kind of there.

What physicality have we lost
Bunting wasn’t physical bertuzzi is way more physical
Kerfoot wasn’t physical domi is way more physical
Holl wasn’t physical we still need a physical dman
Simmons and reaves are a wash
Schenn and acarari were with us for only a couple of months so they don’t count as we can upgrade again at the deadline
So for sure we are more physical

Domi is physical? In what way? He'll fight once or twice a year, and does rat things? He doesn't hit, that much is for sure.

Sorry, I'd include Schenn and Aciarri as Leafs last year, even if it was just a few months. I personally thought that extending them was critical. That wasn't done.

Holl wasn't very physical, Klingberg is less so.

Bunting was pesty... engaged after the whistle... Bertuzzi does too. Bertuzzi had one fight last year. Hit's far less than Bunting.

More physical... no, I just don't see it.

Bunting + Holl + Kerfoot 301 hits last year.
Domi + Bertuzzi + Klingberg 164 hits last year

Sure, there is more to physicality than hits... Some people are going to be disappointed when they actually see these guys play, if they are expecting some type of power forwards, like a Wilson, Anderson or Crouse.

I’m not saying fighting but physical like kerfoot would never go to the dirty area and fight for space dimi and bertuzzi will. Bunting is really just a rat who isn’t physical but takes cheap shots.
You can’t include Acari and schenn without including who we pick up at this years deadline.
We are way more physical this year and it’s not even close.
I guess we can agree to disagree

We shall see

Still... don't get too excited by a few wins, or too down on a few losses. The fan base went through this same melt down last year. I'm not saying this is a cup contending team come the Spring, but they'll be good in the regular season... too much talent for that. I wasn't sold on the additions in the summer, and I'm still not sold on them. I don't see the "snot" there at all... just a couple of guys living off their uncle and father's name, and Reaves. Like I said... some people are going to be disappointed when they see how these guys actually play.

 

[Evilhomer]

Still... don't get too excited by a few wins, or too down on a few losses. The fan base went through this same melt down last year. I'm not saying this is a cup contending team come the Spring, but they'll be good in the regular season... too much talent for that. I wasn't sold on the additions in the summer, and I'm still not sold on them. I don't see the "snot" there at all... just a couple of guys living off their uncle and father's name, and Reaves. Like I said... some people are going to be disappointed when they see how these guys actually play.

I think you have to give both Bertuzzi and Domi more time. You're not going to get much of a sample size after 4 games.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

What Bundy saw in Kampf to justify a $2.4M cap hit I'll never know.

 

[Fogelhund]

What Bundy saw in Kampf to justify a $2.4M cap hit I'll never know.

6th most time on ice last year for forwards, prime PK guy, prime defensive zone, prime faceoff guy. He had defensive wingers to work with, that complimented what they were trying to do as a shutdown line.

If you are going to have a guy you rely on that much, that kind of pay isn't unreasonable.

But... if you are going to pay a guy like that, that kind of money, you use them as such, and you surround them with players to achieve what a "Kampf" is useful for. He isn't being used as much, isn't being used in the situations he's good at, and doesn't have the right linemates to do what he is useful for.

To me, the money on it's own isn't a problem, it's more like... why did you pay a guy a premium like that, and then choose not to use him to his strengths? It just doesn't make sense at all. You want a ZAR, an Acciari type... strong defensively, fast, physical. Then you've got a shutdown defensive line.

The whole thing has been thrown together, without any thought as to how it fits, and.. it doesn't fit. So it's wasted money.

 

[ToneDog]

What Shanny saw in Kampf to justify a $2.4M cap hit I'll never know.

Fixed it for you. Tre probably could not have picked Kampf out of a police lineup.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Brad Treliving is doing a great job, title, as of today the statement to follow should be
"hmmmmmmmmmmmm"

 

[saffronleaf]

doing a great job taking a team setting franchise records and running it into the ground