Epic Calder Race 2024-25

[coooldude]

Vegas had Michkov as a favorite at one point this year or no?

Michkov was a favorite and Celebrini was a longshot through Michkov's 12/10 when he went on an extended 0 streak. Celebrini was injured for 12 games after the opener and was like +800 in Vegas, but then he took over in Dec as the front runner and has stayed there.

AGAIN -- anything could happen -- but the odds will move less the further along we are in the season, less uncertainty. It's a 3 horse race unless Michkov goes on like a ppg+ tear, he's been cold since 12/10... 5 points in 6 earlier this month before 5 games straight with 0 points and only 5 shots. And Wolf is still a longshot to overcome the anti-goalie bias. Celebrini is front-runner according to Vegas, implied 55% chance, Hutson not far behind at ~40%ish.

 

[Mattb124]

I don't think I do.

Can't have a conversation with a person who thinks the word "had" is present tense.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Can't have a conversation with a person who thinks the word "had" is present tense.

Ya lost me. Future hasn't happened yet, lets see how it plays out.

 

[coooldude]

Can't have a conversation with a person who thinks the word "had" is present tense.

He meant "Didn't Vegas have Michkov as a front runner" - e.g. minorly edited "Vegas had Michkov as a favorite at one point this year, right? or no?"

 

[Gravity]

Either way, let's take a moment to recognize this unbelievable rookie class. A 1C, 1D, 1G and 1W all in the making.

 

[Frank Drebin]

He meant "Didn't Vegas have Michkov as a front runner" - e.g. minorly edited "Vegas had Michkov as a favorite at one point this year, right? or no?"

I seem to be having issues with tenses but I was simply trying to illustrate that todays present is the futures past, things can change.

One thing is that while others have moved in and out Celebrini has firmly been in either the top or second place for the entirety of the season

 

[Mattb124]

He meant "Didn't Vegas have Michkov as a front runner" - e.g. minorly edited "Vegas had Michkov as a favorite at one point this year, right? or no?"

What he meant is clear. What can't be explained is how Michkov's past odds contradict Celebrini's current Vegas odds favoring him over Hutson - which is the comment to which he initially responded.

 

[bud12]

Actually, one of them isn't. Celebrini hasn't had a stretch of more than two games without a point except the first week after he came back from injury. He's been the model of consistency. Every other rookie has had long stretches of poor play. Celebrini hasn't.

Every time I come into the thread, there's a new flavor of the month people are claiming is better than Mack. First it was Michkov, then it was Hutson, now it's Wolf. They're all great players, but they have not consistently played at a top line level the way Celebrini has all year.

If Celebrini goes ice cold down the stretch, then there's a discussion to be had. But I don't see that happening.

1pts in 5games in the beggining of january isn't good and pretty much a slump.

 

[Barrie22]

1pts in 5games in the beggining of january isn't good and pretty much a slump.

A slump is 7 points in 24 games. 1.5 months worth of games. Or even 0 in 14 like smith had. A slump is not what celebrini did at the start of the month and what hutson is doing now.

 

[bud12]

A slump is 7 points in 24 games. 1.5 months worth of games. Or even 0 in 14 like smith had. A slump is not what celebrini did at the start of the month and what hutson is doing now.

Call it like you want, it's not the point here.

 

[karltonian]

1pts in 5games in the beggining of january isn't good and pretty much a slump.

This wasn't so much a slump on Celebrini's part, the team lost a significant player to injury (the best winger on the team) and it caused the lines to be shuffled, which put an ineffective combination of players on Celebrini's line. For a while it was 3 rookies, and they went up against several very good teams in this stretch as well, Tampa, NJ, and Vegas.

 

[Frank Drebin]

What he meant is clear. What can't be explained is how Michkov's past odds contradict Celebrini's current Vegas odds favoring him over Hutson - which is the comment to which he initially responded.

Friend, lets get on the same page here.

Celebrini is the current betting favorite to win.

There is still lots of hockey to be played and the race is close enough right now that essentially any of the 3 current frontrunners could win it at the end of the season.

I don't see how a reasonable person could take issue with that statement.