Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[ToDavid]

BT has us with a team that may actually do well in the PO. Those Dubas moves in contrast are a joke.

That’s easy to say months before the team sets foot into the playoffs.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Dubas makin' moves over in Steel Town. Shuckin' and jivin'. Tre? Dead silence.

Pittsburgh looked like a Dubas team last night. He's already weaving his magic over there. I wish to f*** the Sens had hired him. Or the Habs.

 

[All Mod Cons]

BT job is to win the Cup.
Love him or hate him, Dubas is the most successful GM for the Leafs in the past 20 yrs or so due to the Leafs advancing to the 2nd round.
If BT can win the Cup or advance the Leafs to ECF, he will be more successful than Dubas.

Or win 2 games in the 2nd round.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I’d want all my money owed if I was a player, I’m sure Muzzin does as well. Komarov still wanted to play, different situation.

I suppose it's mindset - would you rather sit around getting paid for doing nothing or earn it by doing something useful in the field you love?

Komarov took a pay cut to keep working. Maybe Muzzin did the same.

 

[ACC1224]

I suppose it's mindset - would you rather sit around getting paid for doing nothing or earn it by doing something useful in the field you love?

Komarov took a pay cut to keep working. Maybe Muzzin did the same.

Muzzin isn't able to play anymore, Komarov was.

 

[Mess]

I suppose it's mindset - would you rather sit around getting paid for doing nothing or earn it by doing something useful in the field you love?

Komarov took a pay cut to keep working. Maybe Muzzin did the same.

With most NHL contracts they're covered by insurance in case of injury.. WIth Muzzin likely 80% of his current deal is being paid by this method.

Any income that Muzzin might earn as a scout might/likely be deducted from this overall earnings however a scout salary is peanuts $60-100k vs a his full contract in comparison.

He is still likely getting the full value of his NHL contract, simply now spending time sitting in area's and scouting where his Scouts Salary + NHL Salary still = Full NHL Salary.

Insurance companies certainly wouldn't complain that Muzzin is willing to slightly lower his insurance payment earnings because he is holding another job with earnings being deducted.

 

[ACC1224]

With most NHL contracts they're covered by insurance in case of injury.. WIth Muzzin likely 80% of his current deal is being paid by this method.

Any income that Muzzin might earn as a scout might/likely be deducted from this overall earnings however a scout salary is peanuts $60-100k vs a his full contract in comparison.

He is still likely getting the full value of his NHL contract, simply now spending time sitting in area's and scouting where his Scouts Salary + NHL Salary still = Full NHL Salary.

Insurance companies certainly wouldn't complain that Muzzin is willing to slightly lower his insurance payment earnings because he is holding another job with earnings being deducted.

I thought the Team held the Insurance, not the Player? I'd be pretty surprised if the Player didn't receive all his money owed.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Muzzin isn't able to play anymore, Komarov was.

I didn't say he was playing - if he's a scout, he's working, and getting paid for it.

 

[Mess]

I thought the Team held the Insurance, not the Player? I'd be pretty surprised if the Player didn't receive all his money owed.

That is true it the teams that purchase the insurance to protect themselves against large guaranteed contracts in case of player injury.

Works generally like this..

The NHL's insurance plan insures player contracts for seven years, and "beyond that, if the player gets hurt, the team is on the hook for the full amount of his contract,". As part of the plan, which the NHL purchases through New York-based insurance broker BWD Group, NHL teams are "required to insure a handful of players through a 'temporary total disability' program administered by the league." Each team "pays a premium based on the salaries of its five highest-paid players, but is free to allocate that coverage how it wishes." NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said that "typically, a team will extend coverage to as many as seven players." Insurance coverage "kicks in when a player misses at least 30 games," and insuring a player under the league program "costs about 5[%] of his salary."

 

[ACC1224]

I didn't say he was playing - if he's a scout, he's working, and getting paid for it.

Correct he would get paid to scout on top of being paid out the rest of his contract.
Komarov was released from his contract so he could sign another one to keep playing.
The two things aren't remotely the same.

 

[notDatsyuk]

With most NHL contracts they're covered by insurance in case of injury.. WIth Muzzin likely 80% of his current deal is being paid by this method.

Any income that Muzzin might earn as a scout might/likely be deducted from this overall earnings however a scout salary is peanuts $60-100k vs a his full contract in comparison.

He is still likely getting the full value of his NHL contract, simply now spending time sitting in area's and scouting where his Scouts Salary + NHL Salary still = Full NHL Salary.

Insurance companies certainly wouldn't complain that Muzzin is willing to slightly lower his insurance payment earnings because he is holding another job with earnings being deducted.

A scout's usual salary may be $60-100K, but who knows what Leafs might do. His remaining salary is $2M - what if they offer him a job at $200K for 10 years? He gets to work, be part of the team, and hang around in the sport for longer, and maybe become an assistant coach.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Correct he would get paid to scout on top of being paid out the rest of his contract.
Komarov was released from his contract so he could sign another one to keep playing.
The two things aren't remotely the same.

Komarov and the Islanders agreed to terminate his contract, so he could get another job (KHL player).

Muzzin and the Leafs agreed to terminate his contract so he could get another job (NHL scout).

Why are they so different?

Maybe you missed that I was responding to posts that said he couldn't get another job while still being paid on LTIR.

 

[ACC1224]

Komarov and the Islanders agreed to terminate his contract, so he could get another job (KHL player).

Muzzin and the Leafs agreed to terminate his contract so he could get another job (NHL scout).

Why are they so different?

Maybe you missed that I was responding to posts that said he couldn't get another job while still being paid on LTIR.

He terminated his contract? Sorry, missed that and pretty shocked he would do that.
Where did you see that?

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I'd say this is the most excited I've been about this team for a few years now. Dubas is gone. The forwards group is improved over last year, with a bit more bite to them. Defence is still suspect, but I'm hopeful Klingberg's show-me deal has him extra motivated. Goaltending worries me as well, but hopefully the 1A/1B situation pushes both to play better for more playing time; I can see Woll taking over the reigns in due time.

As much as I haven't been a fan of Keefe, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what he can do with this roster now that he doesn't have to adhere to and align with Dubas's vision. The players like him, and so I really want to see that come out in their play this year where they do anything for him.

 

[Mess]

I'd say this is the most excited I've been about this team for a few years now. Dubas is gone. The forwards group is improved over last year, with a bit more bite to them. Defence is still suspect, but I'm hopeful Klingberg's show-me deal has him extra motivated. Goaltending worries me as well, but hopefully the 1A/1B situation pushes both to play better for more playing time; I can see Woll taking over the reigns in due time.

As much as I haven't been a fan of Keefe, I'm actually looking forward to seeing what he can do with this roster now that he doesn't have to adhere to and align with Dubas's vision. The players like him, and so I really want to see that come out in their play this year where they do anything for him.

I agree with you and aligned fairly closely to this ... The snake oil salesman is gone, and BT has done as good a job as expected trying to address as many needs as possible with limited cap space.

Defense is more offensively inclined, but I also question them defensively and BT has Work-in-progress here before he shapes it to his vision, and while I would have loved Keefe who gets outcoached by everyone gone also, but understand the transition period keeping a coach that players can play for might be different now that the strings have been cut by former GM medling might have a better outcome.

I also see Woll become eventually Leafs #1G going forward.

 

[kb]

Muzzin is still getting paid. There has been no contract termination.

 

[The Masters]

Muzzin is still getting paid. There has been no contract termination.

highest paid scout in the league

over $5M

Lol

 

[Gabriel426]

Or win 2 games in the 2nd round.

That will still cause people to argue over stupid stuff different teams…get into the ECF and that’s nobody can deny BT’s Leafs is better than Dubas’s Leafs.

 

[Ciao]

If and when Timmins comes off LTIR, what would the Leafs need to do to add him to the roster?

They have a smish of cap room, but they would still need to get rid of more than $950,000 in salary to make his contract fit. I don't know how they do that without a major disruption, unless there are more LTIR casualties by then.

 

[Menzinger]

I thought the Team held the Insurance, not the Player? I'd be pretty surprised if the Player didn't receive all his money owed.

Yep, it's the team. Any side gig from Muzzin won't have any bearing on his player contract, which is locked in with set conditions.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Great defensi

 

[DarkKnight]

I agree with you and aligned fairly closely to this ... The snake oil salesman is gone, and BT has done as good a job as expected trying to address as many needs as possible with limited cap space.

Defense is more offensively inclined, but I also question them defensively and BT has Work-in-progress here before he shapes it to his vision, and while I would have loved Keefe who gets outcoached by everyone gone also, but understand the transition period keeping a coach that players can play for might be different now that the strings have been cut by former GM medling might have a better outcome.

I also see Woll become eventually Leafs #1G going forward.

I heard some of Dubas doing his season opener presser. Now we all know Pitt has a very thin prospect pool, but man if you listened to him talk about camp, you’d swear the Pens were loaded, just gushing about the prospecfs. Not agreeing with “snake oil” but he is a bullshit artist.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I heard some of Dubas doing his season opener presser. Now we all know Pitt has a very thin prospect pool, but man if you listened to him talk about camp, you’d swear the Pens were loaded, just gushing about the prospecfs. Not agreeing with “snake oil” but he is a bullshit artist.

All GM's lie, that's kind of part of the job.

 

[Leaf Fans]

highest paid scout in the league

over $5M

Lol

He had a paid July first 2M signing bounus and 2M in salary the 5. 625M is the LTIRed cap hit. Still, it may make him the highest paid scout. Or the lowest depending on what he gets for scouting and we separate the two incomes.

 

[DarkKnight]

All GM's lie, that's kind of part of the job.

Meh, he has a special talent for it.