Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

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I agree, we have to sign Nylander and he’ll be closer to 50 goals than 40. Tre will eventually be judged by what he does to strengthen this defence during the season. He’s done a good job on the offence acquiring Bert, Domi, and Klingberg. The offence is fine complemented by that emerging stud Knies.

Agree. Nylander just controls the game when he is on the ice. He is worth the money.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

BT job is to win the Cup.
Love him or hate him, Dubas is the most successful GM for the Leafs in the past 20 yrs or so due to the Leafs advancing to the 2nd round.
If BT can win the Cup or advance the Leafs to ECF, he will be more successful than Dubas.

I don't think you realize how low that bar.

 

[Gabriel426]

The only thing i said its you cant only winning when your top 3 in attack scoring, you need to find a way to win game even if youe top player struggling on scoresheet... you need people to step up...

Yep you can watch florida series Mm AM WN was unable to score gm 1-2-3 ( not necessairly because they dont had good scoring chance but just didn't goes in ... result they was down 3-0... they had to find a way to be at least 1-2. Get a samsonov to step up at least 1 game, get anybody to step up during 1 game and be a difference maker.

But if the rest of the team scored 90% of the goals and your top three highest paid players scored 10% in the same series. Chances are the team won’t win the series.
You are still not admitting that AM, MM and JT choked against the Panthers while the rest of the team did more than expected- scoring 90% of all goals.
If only someone stepped up, why does it need to be the rest of the team and not the three guys who getting paid the most?
Your narrative that the top guys are fine and the rest of the team needed to step up is false as the Leafs or any teams will always have a higher chance of success if their top 3 highest paid players score more than 10% of team scoring in any playoffs series.
It is unacceptable that they combined for 1 goal in the series and I could care less if they created many chances.

I don't think you realize how low that bar.

Trust me, I know it is a low bar but it is also fact.

Our team really didn’t had much success over the past 15yrs

 

[MavisGoldberg]

I love how he has not set-up "Roadblocks" for our young talent. In past years, way too many vets/PTOs were signed and gifted spots.

 

[Jozay]

Treliving was careless with the cap this summer.

Credit for getting Bertuzzi and Domi in, but the rest was bad.

 

[MavisGoldberg]

Treliving was careless with the cap this summer.

Credit for getting Bertuzzi and Domi in, but the rest was bad.

The Kampf+Reaves signings were not good. Overpays for support talent. Bert+Domi were great.

 

[thewave]

Lets compare Leafs GM moves.

Kyle Dubas last year as Leafs GM summer work 2022-23.
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Traded for disaster G - Matt Murray (2 years @ $4.67 mil)

G - Ilya Samsonov (one year, $1.8 Million AAV)
D - Jordie Benn (one year, $750,000 AAV)
D - Victor Mete (one year, $750,000 AAV)
F - Nicolas Aube-Kubel (one year, $1 Million AAV)
F - Adam Gaudette (one year, $750,000 AAV)
F - Denis Malgin (one year, $750,000 AAV)
F - Calle Jarnkrok (four years, $2.1 Million AAV)
& PTO signing F- Zach Aston-Reese (one year, $840,000 AAV)

VS.

Brad Treliving 1st year summer work 2023-24.
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*G - Ilya Samsonov (one year, $3.55MM cap hit) [Arbitration reward]
G - Martin Jones (one year, $875K)
D - John Klingberg (one year, $4.2MM)
D - William Lagesson (one year, $775K)*
D - Simon Benoit (one year, $775K)
F - Ryan Reaves (three years, $4MM)
F - Max Domi (one year, $3MM)
F - Tyler Bertuzzi (one year, $5.5MM)
F - Dylan Gambrell (one year, $775K)
& potential PTO signing F - Noah Gregor

Which set of summer transactions do you like best the former GM or the current GM to move the Leafs toward Cup competitiveness?

BT has us with a team that may actually do well in the PO. Those Dubas moves in contrast are a joke.

 

[Mess]

Reaves. Ooof

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

 

[Gallagbi]

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

...we traded Malgin last year. For a gritty tweener who hit and fought.

 

[notbias]

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

Weren't you saying that Treliving was doing a good job by bringing in Benoit? He was going to make the D big and tough or something...

Good times, love how we have embraced size.

 

[Menzinger]

Who managed Toronto Cap for the last 4 years?

Though part of that had to do with the timing of contracts. Last offseason more guys were still l locked up so there was less need to fill as many positions as this offseason. The major need last free agency was the second half of the goalie tandem, one top 9 forward and the rest just the standard replacement depth guys.

 

[Hellcat]

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

Petan is available on waivers ...

 

[Mess]

Weren't you saying that Treliving was doing a good job by bringing in Benoit? He was going to make the D big and tough or something...

Good times, love how we have embraced size.

Too many foolish penalties by Benoit resulted in him being on waivers. Physicality and size are great but you have to have a hockey IQ and can't hurt the team taking needless penalties.

Leafs unfortunately can't carry any spare players due to cap management issues or he would likely be with the Leafs and still might be.

He was always looking to fill the #7/8 spots and never considered a top 6 addition.

Klingberg is the big add on D for the Leafs to help out one of the lowest scoring Dcores from last year.

 

[al secord]

I think what stands out for me about these two is that they wont take shit from anybody. They will stand up for themselves and their teammates which imo has been lacking on this team.

Where do you get this from?

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

We already had fighters in the lineup that were useless in Clifford and Simmonds. Why is Reaves to be any different?

 

[MavisGoldberg]

Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.

I'm sure sure Dubas kept acquiring those types of players...(Muzzin, Clifford (2), Simmonds, Lybuskhin, Laffery, Accriari, Marchment)

 

[DarkKnight]

It looks like Minten makes the team. I think Tre was the one that wanted Nylander to try center. I also think Minten doesn’t make the team if Tre wasn’t the new GM. He made it happen with this trade, and I think it represents a shift in philosophy, the kid impressed, we have a need at center, let’s give it a shot. We will never know, but I don’t see this happening under Dubas, the GM has his fingerprints all over this surprising Minten emergence.

 

[TMLAM34]

It looks like Minten makes the team. I think Tre was the one that wanted Nylander to try center. I also think Minten doesn’t make the team if Tre wasn’t the new GM. He made it happen with this trade, and I think it represents a shift in philosophy, the kid impressed, we have a need at center, let’s give it a shot. We will never know, but I don’t see this happening under Dubas, the GM has his fingerprints all over this surprising Minten emergence.

Not sure I get what you’re saying here. Treliving has done a good job and I think his idea to actually give Nylander a try at center was great and something that would probably never happen under Dubas.

When it comes to Minten though, no one’s fingerprints are on his situation other than his own. The kid came into camp determined and has impressed and surprised everyone including BT. Minten deserves all the credit for this.

 

[DarkKnight]

Not sure I get what you’re saying here. Treliving has done a good job and I think his idea to actually give Nylander a try at center was great and something that would probably never happen under Dubas.

When it comes to Minten though, no one’s fingerprints are on his situation other than his own. The kid came into camp determined and has impressed and surprised everyone including BT. Minten deserves all the credit for this.

Sure. The kid has impressed, but he easily could have been sent down, this idea he was in contention to make the team was a complete shock, nobody was even considering it an option. I believe he was given every opportunity because the Leaf brain trust entertained it, and I see Tre as the primary “hey what about this?” given the previous Nylander angle. We will never know, but this move feels different, and he’s the only thing different. I’m not taking away from Minten, he’s made the case.

 

[Auston Marlander]

We already had fighters in the lineup that were useless in Clifford and Simmonds. Why is Reaves to be any different?

Reeves is a worse player than the Ghost of Wayne Simmonds. I get he is tough. But he is a bad hockey player. Toughness without some skill isn't a player that will help us. He'll be entertaining 5 to 10 times per year, and drive us nuts fthe other 75ish games.

 

[TMLAM34]

Sure. The kid has impressed, but he easily could have been sent down, this idea he was in contention to make the team was a complete shock, nobody was even considering it an option. I believe he was given every opportunity because the Leaf brain trust entertained it, and I see Tre as the primary “hey what about this?” given the previous Nylander angle. We will never know, but this move feels different, and he’s the only thing different. I’m not taking away from Minten, he’s made the case.

I get what you’re saying. It definitely does seem like BT is providing some much needed common sense to this organization like giving Nylander a shot at center given he’s played center for most of his life and even trading Lafferty for any pick instead of loosing him for nothing but when it comes to Minten I think his play has been that good where any GM would want to see more at this level.

 

[DarkKnight]

I get what you’re saying. It definitely does seem like BT is providing some much needed common sense to this organization like giving Nylander a shot at center given he’s played center for most of his life and even trading Lafferty for any pick instead of loosing him for nothing but when it comes to Minten I think his play has been that good where any GM would want to see more at this level.

I don’t think Dubas trades Lafferty to make room for Minten. Like last year when Robertson clearly won a job, was as impressive in camp, we stick with the vet because it was easier. We gave up an asset for really nothing here to make room for the kid, that’s Tre’s philosophy, Dubas already proved in the past he rolls different. Like I said, we will never know, but I give the GM credit here for what is a somewhat bold move, at the very least showing real pragmatism as he emerged a legit alternative.

 

[TMLAM34]

Reeves is a worse player than the Ghost of Wayne Simmonds. I get he is tough. But he is a bad hockey player. Toughness without some skill isn't a player that will help us. He'll be entertaining 5 to 10 times per year, and drive us nuts fthe other 75ish games.

Did you watch Simmonds play in the 18 games last season? He was awful, I’ve never seen a player who was actually able to contribute offensively at one point in their career fall off so bad. Every puck that touched his stick resulted in a turnover basically. He threw some hits but nothing crazy. The only positive thing that came from his game was his fighting which Reaves is a WAY bigger threat.

 

[notbias]

It looks like Minten makes the team. I think Tre was the one that wanted Nylander to try center. I also think Minten doesn’t make the team if Tre wasn’t the new GM. He made it happen with this trade, and I think it represents a shift in philosophy, the kid impressed, we have a need at center, let’s give it a shot. We will never know, but I don’t see this happening under Dubas, the GM has his fingerprints all over this surprising Minten emergence.

So Treliving is forcing Nylander to C and then to the wing because he is forcing a C into the lineup?

Makes perfect sense.

More likely, Minten has played well enough for a look (assuming he is getting one), and they didn't have a set 3C so they were trying Nylander... it isn't that deep.

Did you watch Simmonds play in the 18 games last season? He was awful, I’ve never seen a player who was actually able to contribute offensively at one point in their career fall off so bad. Every puck that touched his stick resulted in a turnover basically. He threw some hits but nothing crazy. The only positive thing that came from his game was his fighting which Reaves is a WAY bigger threat.

He's better than Reaves...

 

[Auston Marlander]

Did you watch Simmonds play in the 18 games last season? He was awful, I’ve never seen a player who was actually able to contribute offensively at one point in their career fall off so bad. Every puck that touched his stick resulted in a turnover basically. He threw some hits but nothing crazy. The only positive thing that came from his game was his fighting which Reaves is a WAY bigger threat.

You're right, Simmonds was horrible, yet he was still better at hockey than Reaves.