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Agree. Nylander just controls the game when he is on the ice. He is worth the money.
Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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But if the rest of the team scored 90% of the goals and your top three highest paid players scored 10% in the same series. Chances are the team won’t win the series.
You are still not admitting that AM, MM and JT choked against the Panthers while the rest of the team did more than expected- scoring 90% of all goals.
If only someone stepped up, why does it need to be the rest of the team and not the three guys who getting paid the most?
Your narrative that the top guys are fine and the rest of the team needed to step up is false as the Leafs or any teams will always have a higher chance of success if their top 3 highest paid players score more than 10% of team scoring in any playoffs series.
It is unacceptable that they combined for 1 goal in the series and I could care less if they created many chances.
Trust me, I know it is a low bar but it is also fact.
Our team really didn’t had much success over the past 15yrs
I love how he has not set-up "Roadblocks" for our young talent. In past years, way too many vets/PTOs were signed and gifted spots.
Treliving was careless with the cap this summer.
Credit for getting Bertuzzi and Domi in, but the rest was bad.
Credit for getting Bertuzzi and Domi in, but the rest was bad.
The Kampf+Reaves signings were not good. Overpays for support talent. Bert+Domi were great.
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BT has us with a team that may actually do well in the PO. Those Dubas moves in contrast are a joke.
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Mercifully, the days of Denis Malgin are behind us, and Leaf Nation fans are going to have to get use to embracing players with size and backbone that play a gritter game.
Weren't you saying that Treliving was doing a good job by bringing in Benoit? He was going to make the D big and tough or something...
Good times, love how we have embraced size.
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Though part of that had to do with the timing of contracts. Last offseason more guys were still l locked up so there was less need to fill as many positions as this offseason. The major need last free agency was the second half of the goalie tandem, one top 9 forward and the rest just the standard replacement depth guys.
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Too many foolish penalties by Benoit resulted in him being on waivers. Physicality and size are great but you have to have a hockey IQ and can't hurt the team taking needless penalties.
Leafs unfortunately can't carry any spare players due to cap management issues or he would likely be with the Leafs and still might be.
He was always looking to fill the #7/8 spots and never considered a top 6 addition.
Klingberg is the big add on D for the Leafs to help out one of the lowest scoring Dcores from last year.
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We already had fighters in the lineup that were useless in Clifford and Simmonds. Why is Reaves to be any different?
I'm sure sure Dubas kept acquiring those types of players...(Muzzin, Clifford (2), Simmonds, Lybuskhin, Laffery, Accriari, Marchment)
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It looks like Minten makes the team. I think Tre was the one that wanted Nylander to try center. I also think Minten doesn’t make the team if Tre wasn’t the new GM. He made it happen with this trade, and I think it represents a shift in philosophy, the kid impressed, we have a need at center, let’s give it a shot. We will never know, but I don’t see this happening under Dubas, the GM has his fingerprints all over this surprising Minten emergence.
Not sure I get what you’re saying here. Treliving has done a good job and I think his idea to actually give Nylander a try at center was great and something that would probably never happen under Dubas.
When it comes to Minten though, no one’s fingerprints are on his situation other than his own. The kid came into camp determined and has impressed and surprised everyone including BT. Minten deserves all the credit for this.
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Sure. The kid has impressed, but he easily could have been sent down, this idea he was in contention to make the team was a complete shock, nobody was even considering it an option. I believe he was given every opportunity because the Leaf brain trust entertained it, and I see Tre as the primary “hey what about this?” given the previous Nylander angle. We will never know, but this move feels different, and he’s the only thing different. I’m not taking away from Minten, he’s made the case.
Reeves is a worse player than the Ghost of Wayne Simmonds. I get he is tough. But he is a bad hockey player. Toughness without some skill isn't a player that will help us. He'll be entertaining 5 to 10 times per year, and drive us nuts fthe other 75ish games.
I get what you’re saying. It definitely does seem like BT is providing some much needed common sense to this organization like giving Nylander a shot at center given he’s played center for most of his life and even trading Lafferty for any pick instead of loosing him for nothing but when it comes to Minten I think his play has been that good where any GM would want to see more at this level.
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I don’t think Dubas trades Lafferty to make room for Minten. Like last year when Robertson clearly won a job, was as impressive in camp, we stick with the vet because it was easier. We gave up an asset for really nothing here to make room for the kid, that’s Tre’s philosophy, Dubas already proved in the past he rolls different. Like I said, we will never know, but I give the GM credit here for what is a somewhat bold move, at the very least showing real pragmatism as he emerged a legit alternative.
Did you watch Simmonds play in the 18 games last season? He was awful, I’ve never seen a player who was actually able to contribute offensively at one point in their career fall off so bad. Every puck that touched his stick resulted in a turnover basically. He threw some hits but nothing crazy. The only positive thing that came from his game was his fighting which Reaves is a WAY bigger threat.
So Treliving is forcing Nylander to C and then to the wing because he is forcing a C into the lineup?
Makes perfect sense.
More likely, Minten has played well enough for a look (assuming he is getting one), and they didn't have a set 3C so they were trying Nylander... it isn't that deep.
He's better than Reaves...
You're right, Simmonds was horrible, yet he was still better at hockey than Reaves.
