Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[LeafalCrusader]

Remember this

Need a new poll with Brad vs the potato!

 

[Lemontree]

Basically Treliving did what a random HF poster might’ve done if you made them GM. It’s really a damn shame Dubas was let go.

Dubas had 5 years to find a solution in goal.
Dubas had 5 years to build depth around the core.
Dubas had 2 seasons to replace Muzzin (long term injury) and 5 seasons to build a usable D core.

But last offseason was conveniently going to be the time he solved these issues but was fired before he could......sure.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Don’t worry boys. It’s going to be a lot easier to upgrade the garbage depth of this team next year when Matthews and Nylander’s new cap hits take effect. Much easier.

Hilarious the only team we’ve beaten recently is the team Treliving assembled.

Remember this

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Need a new poll with Brad vs the potato!

A potato provides nutrition and can be made into French fries.

Treliving disgraces the reputation of pizza and makes horrible hockey teams.

Easy choice.

 

[Blanka]

Basically Treliving did what a random HF poster might’ve done if you made them GM. It’s really a damn shame Dubas was let go.

I have to disagree. Wonder boy had plenty of time to make the necessary changes to this team and somehow managed not to. Maybe giving that albatross of a contract to Tavares wasn't such a hot idea after all. " We can and we will". Uhhh we couldn't and we didn't.

 

[Havoc]

Completing operation BGA is all this guy has to do to secure top 3 best odds at winning the cup.

Best goalie available.

If he doesn't do this he's being sent to Dubas Island.

if he can somehow acquire a top 4 too just hand us the Cup now.

 

[Roo]

All his moves have been shit. Thankfully many were just 1yr deals. I don’t have a lot of confidence he’ll get things right, but let’s hope he does.

 

[Shooter2x]

Completing operation BGA is all this guy has to do to secure top 3 best odds at winning the cup.

Best goalie available.

If he doesn't do this he's being sent to Dubas Island.

if he can somehow acquire a top 4 too just hand us the Cup now.

Sweep Gang suiting up for the second half missions.

 

[Havoc]

Sweep Gang suiting up for the second half missions.

Put the poll up from now so I can slap a Leafs in 4 on these clowns

 

[rumman]

Something needs to be done right now if we're looking to make any noise this season.

We need a goalie, at least two defencemen, and another depth forward.

Christmas was last month, nothing but bills to be paid in 2024……..

 

[Shooter2x]

Put the poll up from now so I can slap a Leafs in 4 on these clowns

On a serious note I tend to agree.

If the Leafs are in the playoffs with a goalie, there are 15 other teams hoping Leafs aren't their opponent.

You can abstract away everything else wrong and just focus on that for your odds

 

[BallardEra]

If the Leafs are in the playoffs with a goalie, there are 15 other teams hoping Leafs aren't their opponent.

Maybe we as fans think that but they've won only 1 playoff series in 7 years.

Perhaps teams actually prefer to play the Leafs come playoff time.

 

[hullsy47]

Dubas had 5 years to find a solution in goal.
Dubas had 5 years to build depth around the core.
Dubas had 2 seasons to replace Muzzin (long term injury) and 5 seasons to build a usable D core.

But last offseason was conveniently going to be the time he solved these issues but was fired before he could......sure.

Dubas was a pidgeon

 

[Lemontree]

On a serious note I tend to agree.

If the Leafs are in the playoffs with a goalie, there are 15 other teams hoping Leafs aren't their opponent.

You can abstract away everything else wrong and just focus on that for your odds

The Leafs top end talent is enough for every team to make sure they don't overlook the Leafs.

Based on the team's structure of play, commitment to playing a 60 minute game, lack of forecheck/physicality and the D as a group being slow, weak and unable to make decisions/plays quickly while under pressure. No team will be scared of the Leafs come playoff time, goalie upgrade or not.

 

[34]

I was never in favor of Treliving coming to Toronto.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Completing operation BGA is all this guy has to do to secure top 3 best odds at winning the cup.

Best goalie available.

If he doesn't do this he's being sent to Dubas Island.

if he can somehow acquire a top 4 too just hand us the Cup now.

But who would BGA be?

....Elvis?

 

[Jozay]

Im not a Dubas guy, but you cannot imagine him dropping the ball as hard as Treliving did this summer. I mean wow

 

[Dough72]

this offseason is on Shanahan and his front office. No way they allowed an emergency hire with no particular insight into their team to just show up out of nowhere and start telling them all what to do.

 

[Stephen]

Im not a Dubas guy, but you cannot imagine him dropping the ball as hard as Treliving did this summer. I mean wow

Looking back at what was headed out the door in free agency followed by the goalie house of cards collapsing and decline of Tavares, Brodie, Giordano over night, this step back season may have been inevitable under anyone's management. That said, Treliving's additions seem to all be failures, so obviously he can be responsible for the millions in Reaves, Klingberg, Bertuzzi, Domi etc.

 

[Jozay]

Looking back at what was headed out the door in free agency followed by the goalie house of cards collapsing and decline of Tavares, Brodie, Giordano over night, this step back season may have been inevitable under anyone's management. That said, Treliving's additions seem to all be failures, so obviously he can be responsible for the millions in Reaves, Klingberg, Bertuzzi, Domi etc.

Extending Keefe was the cherry on top. Brutal.

 

[saffronleaf]

Pizza Boy sacrificed too much defensive acumen for offence and the results have been terrible, worse than could've been imagined actually. Now our old defensively responsible players were pretty soft and come playoff time that's not ideal, but the Leafs did acquire gritty players who could play defence last season at the TDL. Now ROR didn't want to come back and Acciari may have priced himself out, but Lafferty was still here on a cheap deal, could chuck 'em, was fast, and unlike Gregor can actually play and thrive at this level.

Fact of the matter is he spent the off-season money extremely poorly and in an effort to get grittier made us a team who can’t defend to save their lives. The guys brought in to provide offence aren’t even doing that, and it’s hard to imagine Bertuzzi and Domi being brought back.

the sad thing is that if you go and look back at all the threads just before the season started, most people who weren't blinded by anti dubas rage could easily see this.

 

[Stephen]

Extending Keefe was the cherry on top. Brutal.

Yeah, I'm no Dubas guy. Whatsoever. But in the normal course of things there's no way a more disposable piece like Keefe should have outlasted Dubas.

If it had been a normal summer, I think Keefe would have been fired. Dubas do his thing, and if the team struggled like it has struggled, Dubas gets the axe.

 

[Buds17]

Extending Keefe was the cherry on top. Brutal.

I can't imagine this playing out differently with Dubas here.

 

[Stephen]

the sad thing is that if you go and look back at all the threads just before the season started, most people who weren't blinded by anti dubas rage could easily see this.

Disagree somewhat. The rate of failure with Leafs UFAs and offseason adds, particularly in the $3-$5 million range is not all that uncommon year to year even under Dubas' management and Keefe's coaching. I think of Barrie, Ceci, Murray, Ritchie, Mrazek, Vesey, Lehtonen, Barabanov, there's a lot of flame out potential and failure to integrate, guys don't catch on and get purged out. So Reaves, Klingberg, Domi and Bertuzzi all fit into that churn and burn pattern.

This year it seems like we lost the defensive acumen but also the dramatic decline of Brodie, Gio, Tavares and catastrophic Samsonov malfunction, Woll injury. So it's hard to overcome internal decline in multiple positions and screw up the patch work job.

In the end, who cares. It's a lost season. Just liquidate what you can and be in a better position to compete for 2025 and beyond.

 

[ToneDog]

Im not a Dubas guy, but you cannot imagine him dropping the ball as hard as Treliving did this summer. I mean wow

Results under Tre suck but he came in cold. In the same situation, Dubas hasn't done much better.

 

[authentic]

Dubas had 5 years to find a solution in goal.
Dubas had 5 years to build depth around the core.
Dubas had 2 seasons to replace Muzzin (long term injury) and 5 seasons to build a usable D core.

But last offseason was conveniently going to be the time he solved these issues but was fired before he could......sure.

Lol… Or last offseason we were going to atleast be a formidable team again and among the top 10 defensively rather than near the bottom. That’s not even a debatable point really so I’m not sure what your post is all about.