You're a smarter person than this. Don't devolve yourself to hyperbole. Big difference between "Backes got 6 for 5 years with an NMC so Marchand should ask for 8" to what you've listed out above
If Marchand got 8m per, the list would remain at 0.
That's a 7-8m UFA player these days when you factor in everything else Marchand brings to the table. Just talking about scoring devaluates Brad Marchand as a player, even if he is the best goal scorer the Bruins have.
Focus. Breathe deep. That wasn't me
I think it's unfair to say most want that. I don't want that, you don't want that. Fans root for hometown discounts. All I'm saying is in the current market, why shouldn't Brad Marchand come to the negotiation table with an 8?
I'm asking a question, not rallying in the common for Brad Marchand to get fair pay, but that's where the market for players like him is. He's right in that tier of Jakub Voracek's of the world.
Below 7 as a line? I'd be highly surprised. It would be a delight no doubt, but I'd be highly surprised.
Why though? I keep asking...why? Why have you been completely on board with Sweeney burning money, but when it comes to Brad Marchand you're putting your foot down. That doesn't make sense to me
Jimmy Murphy.
I can't predict the future, but regardless yes there are people that will trash Sweeney no matter what. There are also people that will defend Sweeney no matter what. It is what it is
Three levers to pull on a deal. Term, Money, and on a smaller scale protections. I think where you're approaching this wrong is that fans care more about how they look on an internet message board than they do about the Bruins.
I hate the term on the Backes deal. Absolutely hate it. I don't know if that makes me a "cute" fan or whatever...but I know I'm not saying that to "protect" myself or whatever. I don't think most care about their online street cred. At the end of the day, if anyone gets anything right anyway they just get a "well hindsight is 20/20" no one ever actually admits they were wrong like a rational human being when they get a username and password.
That's great, not sure how it's relevant to Marchand at the negotiation table...but regardless people get things wrong. Just as you and I have gotten many things wrong. There are also people (what did that deadline poll thread show...60% of votes or something like that?) who thought the B's should sell at the deadline and use those assets to address the defense this summer. It's now September. The B's missed the playoffs in April and the defense has not been addressed.
Something we're all guilty of. Remember a couple weeks ago when Vesey went from our top prospect to 7th on our LW prospect depth chart?
That I do worry about a little bit, but I think at the end of the day in the locker room no one is out there comparing commas on their check...they're just worried about winning hockey games. Maybe some do, but overall I think that's a fair assumption to make.
But Marchand has let pressure get to him in the past, come playoff time, come scoring droughts, etc. so it's certainly an interesting idea...
but that doesn't mean he hasn't earned the right to be paid more than players who he is superior to.
He scored over 60 points this past year. With 37 goals while being an elite PKer. As much as I would
love Marchand to come in at a discount...this is also his prime contract. The incentive is there to get lots of money and lots of term. I don't doubt he knows his comparables...and many of them signed for 7+ w/ a smaller cap ceiling.
I think he does re-sign here, I hope it's soon. I just think it's for $7-7.5M per year. Doesn't make me cringe, but doesn't make me happy either.
Apologies about the length, but I wanted to take the time to address your points.
