Was only a few games but it was enough to see some potential. Was worth the pick and gamble despite what the nay sayers are pushing
Prospect Info: Brad Lambert, 30th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft
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Joe Hallenback
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He looked fantastic for an 18 year old playing against players much older with more experience. I think he will excel on the small ice
Monkey D Luffy
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Like I've been saying (and Lambert too), the Finnish coaches were not using him properly because their job was not to develop him for the future and turn him into an NHL hockey player. What I think a lot of fans don't understand fully is their job is to win now, whether it be the Finnish Elite League or World Junior Gold.
They felt he was best suited for playing in the bottom 6, trying to get zone exits and dump and chase hockey.
The Jets have the luxury of having him for the next likely +5 years and can wait for him to develop using their farm system or the best junior hockey league in the world. The Jets will let him play with other players near his skill level in an offensive role in the AHL or let him dominate in the WHL because it really only matters what he does in the NHL.
They felt he was best suited for playing in the bottom 6, trying to get zone exits and dump and chase hockey.
The Jets have the luxury of having him for the next likely +5 years and can wait for him to develop using their farm system or the best junior hockey league in the world. The Jets will let him play with other players near his skill level in an offensive role in the AHL or let him dominate in the WHL because it really only matters what he does in the NHL.
I mostly agree with this, except whilst the W is a developmental league simply by age of players within it, the teams are businesses and wins and championships are important to drive gate and merch.
The more I think about it, especially with how stacked the TBirds look to be this year, I'd rather have Lambert playing in the AHL. He's already been playing with men, and on the Moose you know that development will be their only goal with him, and he can get integrated into the Jets systems and culture quicker.
Agree. I've given some reasons for my AHL preference upthread, but in a nutshell I think he gets more benefit from playing in a harder, faster, more aggressive league as he learns NHL systems and expectations.
I don't see him as in quite the same tier overall as, say, KFC, Perfetti or Ehlers, but he does seem to have the raw speed and skill to survive the A and prosper.
KFC made the jump to the AHL early after posting some record scoring totals in the N and Ehlers dominated with Halifax, as I expect Cole would have had he gone back to the CHL. I'm not sure that the relative looseness of CHL playstyle is going to help a kid who has plenty to learn about positioning, cycling, 5-man play and discipline. I get the confidence thing but if he can contribute early on in the A he may well break out in time to help the Jets in the nearer future -- and the Moose run a great team and program.
Monkey D Luffy
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For sure, my point is based on his skill level, and being a first-round pick there is no way Lambert isn't playing first line minutes and on the top powerplay in the WHL.
If he can gain confidence in the WHL I'm all for it. If he's good enough to play big minutes in the AHL and replace Perfetti I think that's the best way to go.
Have you seen Seattle's roster? I don't think he's guaranteed anything there.
MardyBum
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Eh, he went ahead and was ranked higher than one of their best players in Schaefer even having a bad year, he's also far more talented than the vast majority of Seattle. He shouldn't be just given everything if he goes to the Dub but if given a fair shot I don't think it will be a very long time before he's in a very prominant role.
AHL is still my number 1 choice for the toughee comp.
May be true, but I think even the top players will play less because of the depth of the team.
We do agree about the A.
MardyBum
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Agree with this for the most part - but with the caveat that he be watched very carefully and if judged to be struggling with the harder, faster, more aggressive play in the AHL that he be moved down so as to not break his confidence altogether. It may be that he needs some more time with his peers in Junior to simply learn basics of good team play.
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That's the rub. There's no way to view a move from the AHL to the WHL as anything but a demotion, which *could* further damage the confidence you're trying to build.
While I agree the moose is probably the best spot for him, it's also the riskiest
I'm not sure I think it's particularly risky because even though he might struggle out of the gate he's going to get a ton of stability and support, and the team won't cut his ice time or scratch him.
I guess we will have to see
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Draft position doesn't always equate to playing higher up the lineup, that team is pretty stacked and there will be some older players deserving of time too.
MardyBum
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The best players deserve the most ice time. If that's not going to happen in Seattle all the more reason not to send him there.
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I have no horse in this race, but it wouldn't shock me to see him get a cup of tea like Perfetti. I think he'll play in the AHL and put up 40-50 points and maybe earn a few NHL games at the end of the year.
Let’s see how his preseason goes before we give him some NHL games.
If he has a strong camp, then maybe have him start the season with a couple of games to reward him, though I think he will be better served getting lots of ice time in all situations with the Moose. He’s still 18. He has lots of time to develop.
If he has a strong camp, then maybe have him start the season with a couple of games to reward him, though I think he will be better served getting lots of ice time in all situations with the Moose. He’s still 18. He has lots of time to develop.
It will interesting to watch how this progress.
I'm not so sure the A is place for him. He's struggled in a men's league currently. It might be good for him to light up juniors. Not very many 18 yr olds are too good for junior.
I'm not so sure the A is place for him. He's struggled in a men's league currently. It might be good for him to light up juniors. Not very many 18 yr olds are too good for junior.
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Those would be the things that were real, but overstated in that they are not following him to NA, at least no signs so far. The dad issues might still be there, or might arise again later on, but for now I don't see them.
Maturity may have caught up to him a bit after last year's results and falling so far in the draft. A little bit of humbling is great for maturity. Effort remains to be seen but might relate to maturity.
I think consistent effort might take some time to learn. When you're always the best player amongst your peers and being successful seems effortless, it can be hard to flip that switch. Of course, some guys never 'get it', I hope Brad isn't one of those.
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I lean towards the A, but if he starts there and is unready, he can still be sent to the W.
Gabe Kupari
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Really. Odd yet he's attending training camp? Is this allowed because he was drafted out of Europe?
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Agree with the bolded - but the developmental coaching in the A still might be best for him.
I think some are getting a little carried away here, talking about NHL games. Lets see how TC goes before we start pumping his tires.
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