Confirmed Signing with Link: [BOS] Brad Marchand extension (8 years, $6.125M AAV)

[nilssont]

Congrats Bruins

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Deal is fantastic if he is able to repeat what he did last year.

Otherwise, it is a pretty fair deal that is in line with what other players are getting under the NHL's new cap reality. Term in exchange for a more manageable hit, and a ton of money in signing bonuses. A player who would have gotten 7+ a few years back when the projections for the cap were optimistic now gets 6+ with more term and more bonus money.

 

[pierre gagnon*]

He left money on the table on ever deal he made with the Bruins. Loyalty is rare in sports and he wanted to stay. Combining salaries of Marchand and Bergeron equals 13 million a year, let that sink in.

Going by points is no way to evaluate him. He never plays the main powerplay with the big guns. Will he continue to score over 35, probably not. That said in Julien's system he usually rolls 4 lines and forwards sacrifice offense. With Sid or in an wide open system he would be near 40 goals easily.

Guys who scored more then him were the prime powerplay go to guys. Bruins dee were really bad at moving the puck up the ice, so give him some better transition and he produces more. Add his aggitation style and he plays the PK at an elite level this is a good deal. The end buyout will not be bad if it comes to that. Salaries in 2 to 5 years for guys like him may be around 8 million, if it keeps going up.

 

[antiqueslivers]

gREAT signing, Absolutely love marchand! congrats!

 

[Fire Sweeney]

its either term of a higher cap hit. if they can get 5-6 good years out of him they can figure something out down the road

Cap won't be an issue for awhile as there are no upcoming star players to re-sign

 

[Mpasta]

Deal is fantastic if he is able to repeat what he did last year.

Otherwise, it is a pretty fair deal that is in line with what other players are getting under the NHL's new cap reality. Term in exchange for a more manageable hit, and a ton of money in signing bonuses. A player who would have gotten 7+ a few years back when the projections for the cap were optimistic now gets 6+ with more term and more bonus money.

I agree.

If we get a new coach or Claude comes to his senses, I believe Marchand can put up 35+ consistently over the next few years if he's given power play time.

 

[Menzinger]

I see Boston's management seems hell bent on absolutely destroying their teams cap situation in a few seasons.

GM's (and fans even more so) fall in love with vets way too easily. A team that could t even make the playoffs last year has no business locking up vets until their late 30s.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

A bit too much term. Though Marchand is a great player.

 

[bob27]

I see Boston's management seems hell bent on absolutely destroying their teams cap situation in a few seasons.

GM's (and fans even more so) fall in love with vets way too easily. A team that could t even make the playoffs last year has no business locking up vets until their late 30s.

The cap situation was awful two years ago. After 13/14, the team was totally handcuffed and had to move Boychuk just to stay within the rules. There's a lot more flexibility now, especially with Chara's cap hit going down and then away.

 

[Mpasta]

I see Boston's management seems hell bent on absolutely destroying their teams cap situation in a few seasons.

GM's (and fans even more so) fall in love with vets way too easily. A team that could t even make the playoffs last year has no business locking up vets until their late 30s.

I'm not one to defend the Bruins management but the only potential mistake that they've made in regards to overpaying veterans for the long term is Backes.

Without Marchand, the Bruins would be a lottery team.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

-> Almost 30 years old
-> A fantastic player
-> gets a long term UFA deal
-> turns into an overpaid pylon who will ruin the team etc.

How far off am I?

(for the record, it's a reasonable deal IMO)

Pretty far on this one. Even the most negative Negative Nancy has got to be able to see how team friendly this deal is, especially in the last 3 years.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

The AAV is right, but I can't help but feel the term is 2 years too long.

Marchand is super effect right now and coming off a great year, but it was also his first 30 goal year.

If you remove last years career highs in goals (37) and points (60) heading into a contract year, his career per 82 game averages were 25 goals and 49 points

I just think 8 years might have been too much term at $6+ to give a guy whose production line outside of last year was good, not great for a non center.

He is also is 29 when the deal starts, its not like he has yet to enter his prime either. He probably has 2 years left of his prime when the contract kicks in before his numbers start trending downward, another reason why I think the 8 year term is too long. You can tolerate buying 2 years of prime and 3-4 years of start to decline. I am not sure you want to buy 2 years of prime and 6 years of decline

Nope. The money he left on the table by not hitting the free agent market is in the millions. Very team friendly deal, NMC first 5 years, AAV drops to equivalent to roughly 4 mil against cap in last 3 years and NMC is removed. Zero reason to not like this deal.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

I see Boston's management seems hell bent on absolutely destroying their teams cap situation in a few seasons.

GM's (and fans even more so) fall in love with vets way too easily. A team that could t even make the playoffs last year has no business locking up vets until their late 30s.

What should they have done? Please do tell.

Trade their 28 year old homegrown talent who just scored 37 goals because they NEED some futures and mystery boxes?

You're supposed to sign your star players if you can get them on a fair contract. Thats what happened.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Amount s ok for the shorter term. I'm concered about years 5-8.

Why? Do people not read what is actually involved in these contracts other than the term and AAV and just assume the org is locked up for its entirety with no out clause? His NMC is only good for the first 5 years of the contract. Years 6, 7 and 8 Bruins are free to move him as they please if necessary. They likely won't, but the option is there if it's needed. Not worried in the least bit.

 

[Siludin]

The odds of Sweeney being GM the last few years of that deal is very low, so why not give the player eight years? If it's a headache, it'll be for someone else.

The only concern here will be how the new CBA affects trading high-AAV-low-sal contracts late in the deal. They may close the loopholes that took Datsyuk out of Detroit and Pronger out of Philly, leaving the Bruins stuck with Marchand unless he formally retires or goes on the LITR (why would he pass up on $4m?)

 

[Bordeleau Of Blood]

What should they have done? Please do tell.

Trade their 28 year old homegrown talent who just scored 37 goals because they NEED some futures and mystery boxes?

You're supposed to sign your star players if you can get them on a fair contract. Thats what happened.

This is HF. A vocal portion of the populace believes anyone who isn't on an ELC is old and overpaid.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Nope. The money he left on the table by not hitting the free agent market is in the millions. Very team friendly deal, NMC first 5 years, AAV drops to equivalent to roughly 4 mil against cap in last 3 years and NMC is removed. Zero reason to not like this deal.

"Zero reason to not like this deal" is not at all accurate.

8 years at $6+ mil hit starting at 29 years old doesnt scream "zero reason"

Besides a max term deal of 8 x $6.125 mil equates to max term deal value of 7 x $7 mil elsewhere, which is probably comparable to what teams would have offered him on the open market since they cant go above 7 years. Hard to definitively say he left millions on the table. Who was realistically going to offer him more than $7+ mil over 7 years at the age of 29?

Is any team offering him 6 years, $8 mil per (same overall value)? Probably not. Pretty hard to look at this and say he left money on the table on the open market

Lets also not forget he is a winger, there arent many non-centers making $7+ mil on the wing

 

[izzy]

Quite a long contract

 

[Dellstrom]

WAY better than I was expecting. I thought 7-7.5m for 6-7 years was incoming after the year he just had.

8 years is long, yes, but with his play style and size he should stick around for quite some time. Will be at least 5-6 years until we need to worry about this becoming overpayment. He's a core player and there's no way in hell we could afford to lose him.

 

[Pandaman11]

He's staying, so I guess Crosby now has to come to Boston?

 

[NYRKING30]

I think if the Marchand we saw from last year without as much hitting/hard style, hell certainly be worth the length of the contract. Great cap hit, it would be interesting to see how he changes his style of play as he gets older. He has the legs now, he just may have to watch his recklessness in the future when he's 33/34+.

 

[major major]

Better value for the team than any of the $6m deals signed last year. Age 28 - 36? I can see Marchand being great value in the first few years and still being non-terrible by 35.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Better value for the team than any of the $6m deals signed last year. Age 28 - 36? I can see Marchand being great value in the first few years and still being non-terrible by 35.

The contract kicks in when he is 29, so it will be from 29-37

 

[DATS-O-MATIC]

8 years is CRAZY. What if he declines majorly in 3 years? With his style of play that is very possible. That could look like a brutal contract in 4 years.

^^^^^^^
Yep.

 

[DATS-O-MATIC]

Better value for the team than any of the $6m deals signed last year. Age 28 - 36? I can see Marchand being great value in the first few years and still being non-terrible by 35.

yeah, pretty much this. career year cash in, 8 yrs, who will statistically decline within 2-4 years