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Leafsfan74 said:
New Jersey signed Hamilton. The big dog is off the board, not that I thought Leafs would have the stones to go for it.

It will be an interesting piecemeal adventure here on in. This team is almost certainly worse than last years against tougher opposition for 82 games barring some real moves.

I just don't see them at this point.
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The good news is that missing the playoffs will mean Dubas and his buddy Keefe are fired and the Leafs get a lottery pick in what will be a great draft.

Unless Dubas gives that away in a desperation trade.
 
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Ashdown2 said:
this is the problem with "leaf" fans ....

lets compare a sheltered 13min a game guy with a 22 min guy and lets make it seem like that a comparison worth making.
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Dude. Get the f out of here with the this is the problem with Leafs fans rhetoric. If you want to argue the point of the post, do that. Leave that other shit out. There is nothing wrong with Leafs fans. Any of them.
 
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Donnie740 said:
The good news is that missing the playoffs will mean Dubas and his buddy Keefe are fired and the Leafs get a lottery pick in what will be a great draft.

Unless Dubas gives that away in a desperation trade.
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This is why it's imperative that Shanny is fired as soon as possible. Bring in a real executive and make Dubas pass any deals through that person.
 
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I'd want to go back too.
 
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justashadowof said:
Nobody's talking about this but this team is going to get even more pushed around this season.
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Are you saying 33 year old Simmonds and 32 year old MUZZ is not enough muscle LOL?

After 100% support I am starting to lean towards the anti Dubas crew after seeing what it looks like is going to be rolled out this year
 
The Iceman said:
Are you saying 33 year old Simmonds and 32 year old MUZZ is not enough muscle LOL?

After 100% support I am starting to lean towards the anti Dubas crew after seeing what it looks like is going to be rolled out this year
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It's patently unfair that either player should be expected to be the leaders on the team in terms of aggression and fighting. That stuff has always been a young players' domain. I bet both are willing to attempt to deliver but we've all seen this play before: old guy gets into an inspirational fight or big hit to lift up and defend his team. It ends up injuring himself for a long term and the injury is often the career ending variety.
 
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justashadowof said:
Nobody's talking about this but this team is going to get even more pushed around this season.
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How did Bogosian prevent anybody from being pushed around in a way that Liljegren couldn't?

He had 1 fight last year and that was because Austin Watson went mental after Bogosian pinched in the offensive zone to make a hit on him in a game the Leafs were winning 2-0.

Anybody who thinks Bogosian stood up for his teammates or scared anybody has a skewed perspective.

Liljegren is just as physical and he showed that he's ready to at least take 5 on 5 minutes this year. He can probably handle secondary PK minutes as wel to start.
 
justashadowof said:
It's patently unfair that either player should be expected to be the leaders on the team in terms of aggression and fighting. That stuff has always been a young players' domain. I bet both are willing to attempt to deliver but we've all seen this play before: old guy gets into an inspirational fight or big hit to lift up and defend his team. It ends up injuring himself for a long term and the injury is often the career ending variety.
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Simmonds did very little for us last year and gets re-signed for 2 years......
 
LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
How did Bogosian prevent anybody from being pushed around in a way that Liljegren couldn't?

He had 1 fight last year and that was because Austin Watson went mental after Bogosian pinched in the offensive zone to make a hit on him in a game the Leafs were winning 2-0.

Anybody who thinks Bogosian stood up for his teammates or scared anybody has a skewed perspective.

Liljegren is just as physical and he showed that he's ready to at least take 5 on 5 minutes this year. He can probably handle secondary PK minutes as wel to start.
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I'm sure the heads are going to be on a swivel for Liljegren's deer-in-headlights style of defending. Sandin's a more physically dangerous player IMO because he's got some strut and spunk.
 
justashadowof said:
I'm sure the heads are going to be on a swivel for Liljegren's deer-in-headlights style of defending. Sandin's a more physically dangerous player IMO because he's got some strut and spunk.
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Liljegren is much, much better defensively than Sandin is at this point. He's also more physical.

Sandin offensively is great but he hasn't been great defensively, even at the AHL level.
 
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