Bobby Hull passes away (MOD #23- stay to hockey- see Admin warning within)

[SEALBound]

Accurately stating what Bobby Hull did or said does not reduce anyone to anything. It's simply the reality of the situation.

Bobby Hull was an all-time great hockey player. He was also the person that he was. He was human. There is nothing wrong with saying what happened - now, 10 years ago, or 10 years from now. That's life.

Yeah, that's fine - discuss the shortcomings of his character or a couple of events in the coming years. I was suggesting that electing to focus on those immediately upon hearing about his death while his family members or other members of the hockey community have barely had time to wipe the tears away, is classless.

I'm not defending anything he did. I'm just suggesting that you could offer basic condolences instead of being a vulture. Again, what I'm suggesting is hardly unreasonable...but maybe basic humanity for you is. I don't know. Guess we'll see how people react when you pass. I hope you get the same treatment Bobby does.

 

[Amazinmets73]

You don't think people passing away is a tragedy for some families?

True sociopath talk right there bud. Well done.

Of course it can be. A 12 year old tragically dying in a car crash is. An 84 year old man quietly passing away is not.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Parasocial relationships with hockey players from 50 years ago are always something good for the sport. Important to remember his hockey career and nothing else that happened outside of that whatsoever.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Soooooo he's not dead?

What's Miller getting at, there?

Recently someone passed away and it was being reported without an official statement. I think he's criticizing announcing it along those lines.

 

[tarheelhockey]

He was a significant figure in making strides for player's rights and boy howdy, I better leave it at that.

This does kind of get lost in the shuffle. Other players stood up to the NHL and failed. Hull was a big enough force in his own right that he could actually hurt the league if they tried to bend him over. One could argue that without Hull making the leap, the WHA never really gets off the ground, and that would have led to a fundamentally different NHL in too many ways to count.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I hope when some people in this thread die that people speak as harshly about you as some as you have about Bobby.

RIP Bobby. Thanks for your contributions to the game of hockey.

Excellent point. Also, anybody who supports Ovechkin but dump on Hull are hypocrites of the highest degree.

Bobby Hull was the complete package as a hockey player - skater, shooter, strength and creativity. He was the face of the NHL during the 60’s.

 

[Machinehead]

This does kind of get lost in the shuffle. Other players stood up to the NHL and failed. Hull was a big enough force in his own right that he could actually hurt the league if they tried to bend him over. One could argue that without Hull making the leap, the WHA never really gets off the ground, and that would have led to a fundamentally different NHL in too many ways to count.

That is one good thing he did.

Scoring goals is two good things he did.

He did two good things.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

R.I.P. Bobby!!!

Wonder how many goals he would have got if he did not defect, I am thinking 800 plus.

Bobby Hull didn't defect he helped build a Another League the equal of the NHL. If it wasn't for Hull there would be no Western Canadian teams except Vancouver and no sucessful Expansion in the US after 1972. Bobby was the reason players started to make more than $30,000.00 dollars a year. And don't get me started on Free agency because before Hull and the WHA there was none. Players were the Slaves of the Owners and mostly treated poorly(sent to the Minors on a whim) especially toward the end of their careers when they became old and grey!

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

What year was this taken?

Couldn't tell ya. Somewhere in the 60s I assume. There are a few of them out there. The man was a beast.

 

[tfwnogf]

As opposed to you pretending bad people were good and whining about people accurately describing things he did, to show your superior character on the hockey message board.

People are a little more complex than "good" or "bad", there is more nuance to a human being than your avengers movies bud. Generally you don't speak ill of the dead because you wouldn't want people to speak ill of you when you die. It's common courtesy.

Anyway, flawed or not, rest in peace to a legend of the game.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Excellent point. Also, anybody who supports Ovechkin but dump on Hull are hypocrites of the highest degree.

Ah nice. There's that classic history forum sentiment. Well done.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I just checked your profile, and you did absolutely not get a warning or infraction.

I was referring to what you said to me :/

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Of course it can be. A 12 year old tragically dying in a car crash is. An 84 year old man quietly passing away is not.

You can knock grief counsellor off your list of future employment opportunities.

 

[Unspecified]

I remember him talking about how he would freak out goaltenders. He said that he would come into the zone and fire a puck high and probably over 100 MPH only to come back the next time in the zone and fire it low on the ice and the goalie was completely baffled. Bobby Hull was a FANTATIC hockey player and will be missed, RIP Golden Jet!

 

[Tom Polakis]

That would be 7 seasons from 1972-79 and Bobby could have scored 1000 with the right linemates. His WHA scoring totals should be counted it was Major League as much as the NHL was then

Ah, thanks for the correction. I thought his last 2 seasons were also in the WHA.

 

[hawksrule]

I simply don't subscribe to your ideology.

Everyone dies - and that's not a reason to be dishonest or revise history.

You think that's "classless?" You are entitled to your opinion. Some of us similarly find history revisions to be distasteful - especially if they are simply on the basis that the person died - which again, happens to everyone.

Ultimately, your ideology is just paving the way for dishonesty.

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

People are a little more complex than "good" or "bad", there is more nuance to a human being than your avengers movies bud. Generally you don't speak ill of the dead because you wouldn't want people to speak ill of you when you die. It's common courtesy.

Anyway, flawed or not, rest in peace to a legend of the game.

Bobby Hull was born in the 1930s, the child of a factory worker, growing up in a crappy little factory town in Ontario that's now a ghost town because the factory's long gone. Those environments produced a lot of Bobby Hulls off-the-ice, not many who achieved in their professional lives what Bobby Hull achieved in his. This is a hockey forum, Bobby Hull was one of the all-time great hockey players.

 

[Kranix]

Remember when he tried to get the WHA going again in the 2000s? And Brett didn't lift a finger to help out his old man!!!
Greatest toupee in hockey. RIP

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Let me cut through the pearl clutching for a moment.

If I were to go up to Brett Hull and say "your father was a rat bastard and I'm not shedding a single tear over his death because he was a POS," that would be classless. That would be improper.

Posting exactly those same words in a forum full of meatheads who think that being good at sports outweighs your wider character? Not classless.

I am pretty sure that literally no one in here has said that.

 

[johan f]

i can recommend this book about Hot Line and Winnipeg plus WHA history.


https://a.co/d/gu1uXIw

 

[Behn Wilson]

His length of the ice rushes with the long hair flying were a thing of beauty and would get the crowd standing.

May have been the most exciting player ever.

I know teams were stacked in the Original 6 era, but I was lucky to grow up a Hawk fan and have Mikita and Hull and Tony O and the gang!

 

[Gee Wally]

Get and stay on hockey.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

That is one good thing he did.

Scoring goals is two good things he did.

He did two things

Bobby Hull’s legacy transcends hockey. It’s not just the Winnipeg franchise that owes its existence to Hull, nor is it the expansion era NHL cities existence or legitimizing European hockey.

Rather it’s every professional athlete on the planet and their families who live the life’s they do because of Bobby Hull creating modern day free agency in all sports.

 

[Warden of the North]

He was good at hockey.

I'll stop now.

 

[95Tal]

I was just thinking the other day how remarkable it is that the Blackhawks have only had three 50 goal scorers in their 96 year history.

Al Secord did it once, Jeremy Roenick twice, and Bobby five times. Great player...