Bobby Hull passes away (MOD #23- stay to hockey- see Admin warning within)

[RayMartyniukTotems]

The legendary Blackhawks have been passing off. So sad as a Hawk fan. Glen Hall is still alive at 91 years old, off the cuff I think he is probably the last of the old time legends alive. Sign you are getting old when your childhood heroes are passing away.

Deaths the last several years:
Pierre Pilote - 2017
Bill White - 2017
Stan Mikita - 2018
Whitey Stapleton - 2020
Tony Esposito - 2021
Eric Nesternko - 2022
Jim Pappin - 2022
Bobby Hull - 2023

Sad Bobby,Tony and Stan were some of the heroes of my youth. RIP all the BlackHawks from the 1971 Stanley Cup Final and Pierre Pilote whom I'd had heard of but wasn't old enough to see play

 

[pld459666]

I grew up a mile from the Garden (MSG) in Hells Kitchen. My father somehow was a Blackhawks fan, Bobby Hull specifically.

Sad day. RIP Golden Jet.

 

[Behn Wilson]

RIP. Great hockey player.

I met him when I was 12, got a hat signed and immediately threw it away because he was such a prick

Met him several times over the year and he could not have been any nicer, he was great to the fans here in Chicago. Even a few years ago, met him at autograph signing and he was still ripping Bill Wirtz, lol. If Hawks had better ownership and kept Hull and not traded Phil Esposito, imagine we would have had a few more Cups.

 

[ACC1224]

What a beauty, heard many a legendary story about him at Oldtimer Charity Events.

RIP.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Coming from you, that's a compliment.

I wasn't aware you and I have a history together. I clearly made more of an impression on you than you made on me.

 

[Behn Wilson]

Sad Bobby,Tony and Stan were some of the heroes of my youth. RIP all the BlackHawks from the 1971 Stanley Cup Final and Pierre Pilote whom I'd had heard of but wasn't old enough to see play

same here. Hall and Pilote were before my time.

 

[SEALBound]

As opposed to you pretending bad people were good and whining about people accurately describing things he did, to show your superior character on the hockey message board.

Nope, offering basic humanity immediately upon hearing about the death is not the equivalent of dismissing anything bad he may have done.

I would suggest that the premise of "well he once did something bad so it justifies me being a piece of shit and talking bad about him now that he's gone" is hardly the best that humanity has to offer.

You can not like someone and think how they lived was wrong or bad or not great but at the same time have an ounce of decency in times of tragedy.

 

[Jaytee]

I grew up in Winnipeg and was 12-years-old when he signed with the WHA Jets. I met him numerous times, and probably have over a dozen of his autographs to this day. He was never less than a gracious, happy guy with children, and never...EVER...turned down an autograph request. The best ambassador hockey has ever had, during his playing days. And the line of Hedberg-Hull-Nilsson is still, to this day, the best line I've ever seen. Glen Sather and the '80s Edmonton Oilers admitted publicly that they were the influences of those great Oiler teams.

If not for Bobby Hull, no WHA. If not for the WHA, no teams, ever, in Winnipeg, Edmonton, probably Calgary and Ottawa, Carolina (New England Whalers WHA), Colorado (Quebec Nordiques WHA), Arizona (Winnipeg Jets WHA), and possibly the entire southern US; at minimum, it would have happened years later.

Also, the WHA Jets had 12 Europeans at one time, when no other team (Toronto) had more than two, so that's another thing that started with Hull's influence.

Not the greatest player of all time, not nearly, but very possibly the most influential to what the game has become.

 

[SEALBound]

I simply don't subscribe to your ideology.

Everyone dies - and that's not a reason to be dishonest or revise history.

You think that's "classless?" You are entitled to your opinion. Some of us similarly find history revisions to be distasteful - especially if they are simply on the basis that the person died - which again, happens to everyone.

Ultimately, your ideology is just paving the way for dishonesty.

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See my previous reply to coach.

I would suggest that whatever ideology is that you are subscribing to is a driving factor in how things have gotten so bad in society.

It's just not that hard to be a decent person. Lowering your self to what you believe Bobby's level may have been, doesn't give you some sort of superiority. Again, it just makes you look bad - and yes, absolutely - classless.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Nope, offering basic humanity immediately upon hearing about the death is not the equivalent of dismissing anything bad he may have done.

I would suggest that the premise of "well he once did something bad so it justifies me being a piece of shit and talking bad about him now that he's gone" is hardly the best that humanity has to offer.

You can not like someone and think how they lived was wrong or bad or not great but at the same time have an ounce of decency in times of tragedy.

 

[Tom Polakis]

I grew up in Winnipeg and was 12-years-old when he signed with the WHA Jets. I met him numerous times, and probably have over a dozen of his autographs to this day. He was never less than a gracious, happy guy with children, and never...EVER...turned down an autograph request. The best ambassador hockey has ever had, during his playing days. And the line of Hedberg-Hull-Nilsson is still, to this day, the best line I've ever seen. Glen Sather and the '80s Edmonton Oilers admitted publicly that they were the influences of those great Oiler teams.

If not for Bobby Hull, no WHA. If not for the WHA, no teams, ever, in Winnipeg, Edmonton, probably Calgary and Ottawa, Carolina (New England Whalers WHA), Colorado (Quebec Nordiques WHA), Arizona (Winnipeg Jets WHA), and possibly the entire southern US; at minimum, it would have happened years later.

Also, the WHA Jets had 12 Europeans at one time, when no other team (Toronto) had more than two, so that's another thing that started with Hull's influence.

Not the greatest player of all time, not nearly, but very possibly the most influential to what the game has become.

Thanks. I knew I'd find some useful information in this thread if I read through it.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

how did I know this would trigger the sanctimonious posters to cry "but he's a bad person!"

RIP Bobby, troubles off the ice but a Legend on it

 

[Amazinmets73]

Nope, offering basic humanity immediately upon hearing about the death is not the equivalent of dismissing anything bad he may have done.

I would suggest that the premise of "well he once did something bad so it justifies me being a piece of shit and talking bad about him now that he's gone" is hardly the best that humanity has to offer.

You can not like someone and think how they lived was wrong or bad or not great but at the same time have an ounce of decency in times of tragedy.

"Times of tragedy"?

An 84 year old man quietly passing away is not a tragedy. Nor does pointing out the obvious flaws in his character make one a "piece of ****"

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

In my mind he was intrinsically linked to Gordie Howe. Both the faces of their respective Original Six teams, both went to the WHA, and of course both played in Hartford at the end of their storied careers. I think they were also the biggest names of the Original Six era in general, at least south of the border. Difficult to overstate the relevance of Bobby Hull in the history of the league.

 

[Melrose Munch]

Player who got caught up on the wrong side of things too often.

My thoughts are with his family.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

See my previous reply to coach.

I would suggest that whatever ideology is that you are subscribing to is a driving factor in how things have gotten so bad in society.

It's just not that hard to be a decent person. Lowering your self to what you believe Bobby's level may have been, doesn't give you some sort of superiority. Again, it just makes you look bad - and yes, absolutely - classless.

I would perhaps go so far as to suggest that the ideologies Bobby Hull himself subscribed to are a far greater driving factor in society currently being bad.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Hasn't played since the 70s. Glad people besides his family have good memories

 

[Behn Wilson]

Not the greatest player of all time, not nearly, but very possibly the most influential to what the game has become.

He is definitely in the running for the greatest goal scorer ever. He is in the conversation with Ovi, Bossy, Gretzky, Esposito, Lemieux etc, Not meant to be a conclusive list, just naming great scorers off the cuff without looking anything up

 

[Midnight Judges]

See my previous reply to coach.

I would suggest that whatever ideology is that you are subscribing to is a driving factor in how things have gotten so bad in society.

It's just not that hard to be a decent person. Lowering your self to what you believe Bobby's level may have been, doesn't give you some sort of superiority. Again, it just makes you look bad - and yes, absolutely - classless.

Accurately stating what Bobby Hull did or said does not reduce anyone to anything. It's simply the reality of the situation. If it was slanderous I would completely agree with you.

Bobby Hull was an all-time great hockey player. He was also the person that he was. He was human. There is nothing wrong with saying what happened - now, 10 years ago, or 10 years from now. That's life.

 

[Channelcat]

Soooooo he's not dead?

What's Miller getting at, there?

Gord really needs to stay off social media.

RIP Golden Jet

 

[Chairman Maouth]

I simply don't subscribe to your ideology.

Everyone dies - and that's not a reason to be dishonest or revise history.

You think that's "classless?" You are entitled to your opinion. Some of us similarly find history revisions to be distasteful - especially if they are simply on the basis that the person died - which again, happens to everyone.

Ultimately, your ideology is just paving the way for dishonesty.

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I don't subscribe to yours.

Timing is often everything. A month from now I'll help out anyone who wants to write a thread about Hull's bad side. I'm pretty good at that. But Hull was a major positive influence on many kids growing up, including myself. You may find history revisionists to be distasteful and I would wholeheartedly agree, but people who are chronologically challenged can be equally distasteful.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Great, great goal scorer… perhaps the greatest when you consider the low scoring 60’s and how much more he was scoring compared to his peers in that era.

He still had several productive years left when he joined Winnipeg in 1972. Had he stayed in Chicago, he may still have the all time goal record. Far from a one trick pony, Hulll was creative and one of the best skaters of any era.

 

[SEALBound]

"Times of tragedy"?

An 84 year old man quietly passing away is not a tragedy. Nor does pointing out the obvious flaws in his character make one a "piece of ****"

You don't think people passing away is a tragedy for some families?

True sociopath talk right there bud. Well done.

 

[Machinehead]

He was a significant figure in making strides for player's rights and boy howdy, I better leave it at that.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Soooooo he's not dead?

What's Miller getting at, there?

My suspicion is that he has died, but Miller is annoyed that it's being reported ahead of the family or team.