Blues Trade Proposals 2021-2022 Part 3

[Mike Liut]

I really like Krug, but I’d does make sense to move him if they feel Perunovich is ready. He looked ready to me. I mentioned moving Krug before and I got bashed for it. People said you cant move him because free agents wouldn’t like the idea of the Blues moving on from a free agent signing so quick. Not sure I agree with that thought.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I really like Krug, but I’d does make sense to move him if they feel Perunovich is ready. He looked ready to me. I mentioned moving Krug before and I got bashed for it. People said you cant move him because free agents wouldn’t like the idea of the Blues moving on from a free agent signing so quick. Not sure I agree with that thought.

Yeah, if players didn't really care how Army was ruthless on Bergy's NTC, then trading a guy a few years after signing as a free agent isn't going to be an issue either. It's not even like the situation with Carter when Philly traded him before his extension kicked in.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

I always anticipated a Krug deal happening next summer when the cap crunch hit, not this one. I’d have to see what the other moves at LHD will be, but it seems a bit early to pencil in Perunovich to fill his role. He hasn’t shown he can stay healthy, and he was given extremely sheltered minutes when he did play.

 

[PJJJP]

I've been wanting to trade for Chychrun but I didn't realize he has been injured a lot of the time. Other than the covid year when he played in every game. He has averaged 56 games in the other 5 season. Don't know if he is injury prone like Schwartz was but that definitely makes me more cautious towards getting him

 

[bleedblue1223]

I always anticipated a Krug deal happening next summer when the cap crunch hit, not this one. I’d have to see what the other moves at LHD will be this summer, but it seems a bit early to pencil in Perunovich to fill his role. He hasn’t shown he can stay healthy, and he was given extremely sheltered minutes when he did play.

He'd take the #1 PP spot, but he'd still be in sheltered 3rd pair minutes. We'd have to acquire someone new, potentially 2 to pair with Faulk and Parayko. Worst case we are looking at bringing back Leddy and Scandella, where Ideally we can get a Provorov/Chychrun/Sanheim, bring back Leddy, and Scandella is moved. Either way, I think we'll have enough backup options for the PP in case Perunovich gets hurt.

I've been wanting to trade for Chychrun but I didn't realize he has been injured a lot of the time. Other than the covid year when he played in every game. He has averaged 56 games in the other 5 season. Don't know if he is injury prone like Schwartz was but that definitely makes me more cautious towards getting him

He's had multiple knee injuries, so there is some legitimate risk there.

 

[PJJJP]

He'd take the #1 PP spot, but he'd still be in sheltered 3rd pair minutes. We'd have to acquire someone new, potentially 2 to pair with Faulk and Parayko. Worst case we are looking at bringing back Leddy and Scandella, where Ideally we can get a Provorov/Chychrun/Sanheim, bring back Leddy, and Scandella is moved. Either way, I think we'll have enough backup options for the PP in case Perunovich gets hurt.


He's had multiple knee injuries, so there is some legitimate risk there.

What type of injures? Sprains? MCL/ACL related? Patellar issues?

 

[bleedblue1223]

What type of injures? Sprains? MCL/ACL related? Patellar issues?

I'd have to look it up to get the exact details again, but I do remember he's had injuries to both knees.

I know he had shoulder surgery for a ligament injury, ACL on the right, and meniscus on the left.

 

[rumrokh]

I really like Krug, but I’d does make sense to move him if they feel Perunovich is ready. He looked ready to me. I mentioned moving Krug before and I got bashed for it. People said you cant move him because free agents wouldn’t like the idea of the Blues moving on from a free agent signing so quick. Not sure I agree with that thought.

I think after one year is really weird and would potentially make players wary, but a trade after two years of a contract will almost certainly not impact how other players view the team as a destination. Especially given that the majority of free agent contracts aren't as long as Krug's. Plus, he has a no-trade clause.

 

[Em etah Eh]

Krug has a NTC that doesn't start until 25-26. Weird that it doesn't kick in sooner but I guess that at least gives him some protection from being dumped to a low cap bottom feeder at the end of the deal.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Krug has a NTC that doesn't start until 25-26. Weird that it doesn't kick in sooner but I guess that at least gives him some protection from being dumped to a low cap bottom feeder at the end of the deal.

That's the limited version of it, it's a full NTC until then. Capfriendly has weird wording with how they say the limited clause starts.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Krug has a NTC that doesn't start until 25-26. Weird that it doesn't kick in sooner but I guess that at least gives him some protection from being dumped to a low cap bottom feeder at the end of the deal.

His NTC turns from a NTC to a M-NTC in 25-26. His NTC started when he signed his contract.

 

[Em etah Eh]

That's the limited version of it, it's a full NTC until then. Capfriendly has weird wording with how they say the limited clause starts.

His NTC turns from a NTC to a M-NTC in 25-26. His NTC started when he signed his contract.

Thanks for clarifying. I was definitely confused when I read that.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Thanks for clarifying. I was definitely confused when I read that.

All good my man

 

[Mohko]

Krug has a NTC that doesn't start until 25-26. Weird that it doesn't kick in sooner but I guess that at least gives him some protection from being dumped to a low cap bottom feeder at the end of the deal.

NVM

 

[Blueline2757]

 

[bleedblue1223]

Fleury cheap for 1 year is good with me.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

I’d be pretty happy with a Binner/Flower tandem if the money is right

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

25 hours until draft starts. Tired of all this "chatter" being reported. Time for some trades!!!

 

[Blueline2757]

I guess this was fake news as the original tweet's been deleted

But sill I think Fleury would still be a good cheap add

 

[Frenzy31]

i am not sure they are going to move on from Krug, unless they get a fair offer. I don’t see him as a cap dump. But i don’t know about value. Interesting to see the Bruins fans are interested.

I also think that means we are looking at keeping Leddy. It will be interested in to see what and where Tank goes.

 

[mk80]

Interesting to hear about discussion for Krug, I didn't think we'd try to move on from him so soon. But it would open up some options for us with that cap space.

 

[TK 421]

What Armstrong sees

Find the one that's limping Doug!

 

[Reality Czech]

I really like Krug, but I’d does make sense to move him if they feel Perunovich is ready. He looked ready to me. I mentioned moving Krug before and I got bashed for it. People said you cant move him because free agents wouldn’t like the idea of the Blues moving on from a free agent signing so quick. Not sure I agree with that thought.

Perunovich looks nowhere near ready. He's a huge liability out there and needs a lot more experience to be a trusted NHL player.

I wouldn't assume Krug will be moved just because of one rumor. They floated Binnington's name a little while ago and obviously the chances of him being traded were small.

Hope they don't trade Krug, we need what he brings. But considering the cap situation I can see why his name would be floated out there.

 

[Stealth JD]

I really like Krug, but I’d does make sense to move him if they feel Perunovich is ready. He looked ready to me. I mentioned moving Krug before and I got bashed for it. People said you cant move him because free agents wouldn’t like the idea of the Blues moving on from a free agent signing so quick. Not sure I agree with that thought.

I think it's a bad look for an organization to move on from a guy to whom they gave a long-term contract after a single season. But as quickly as year 2, should situations have changed, I don't think any UFA would begrudge a team for moving a guy out. Players are more than happy to have simply found the contract terms that they wanted; having to honor those terms for another organization is merely part of the business.

Giving up on a guy after one lackluster year has the feeling of doing a guy wrong. What if the Blues had said, "nope - we've seen enough" after Justin Faulk's first season? He'd probably have been pissed having not had the chance to rebound after an adjustment period; and guys let other guys in the locker-room know what they think of a city/management. If he's immediately traded to Winnipeg, that doesn't go un-noticed.

Krug's had 2 full years, and is an asset for which Armstrong should have freedom to use however he sees best fit for his hockey-franchise. No different than any other player without a NMC.

I think after one year is really weird and would potentially make players wary, but a trade after two years of a contract will almost certainly not impact how other players view the team as a destination. Especially given that the majority of free agent contracts aren't as long as Krug's. Plus, he has a no-trade clause.

Yes - this.

 

[Majorityof1]

Krug has a full NTC this season. He would have to approve any trade. How can other potential free agents or whoever be upset on Krug's behalf that we did something Krug apporved? I guess if Armstrong used strong-armed tactics to poison the well and force Krug out, but that is a different conversation.