Blue Jays Discussion: Blue Jays fire manager Montoyo, Schneider takes over

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Tiedemann officially in the MLB Pipeline's top 100. He isn't just going to join top 100s, he's going to move up them. So far, all he's done is deal.

#100

By seasons end he could easily move into top 50 if he continues to dominate.

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Thornton has actually been better this year in the small sample size

Edit: In case anyone is wondering, his strikeouts have been lower, his walks need to get under control but he's been inducing more contact in the air than he ever has and a lot of it has been at poor exit angles.
 
DFAing Borucki opens up a 40 man spot, would have preferred they went for Hernandez instead of Thornton but I would guess they feel they need some length. Mayza should be back in the near future so I don't think it'll be a long term stay.
 
I'll resurrect C4G's prospect rankings topic and make a crack at it myself.

60 FV
1. Gabriel Moreno

55 FV
2. Orelvis Martinez
3. Ricky Tiedemann

50 FV
4. Leo Jimenez
5. Jordan Groshans

45+ FV
6. Gabriel Martinez
7. Dahian Santos

45 FV

8. Yosver Zulueta
9. Sam Robberse
10. Otto Lopez
11. Hayden Juenger
12. Tanner Morris

40+ FV
13. Manuel Beltre
14. Estiven Machado
15. Rikelbin De Castro
16. Irv Carter
17. Hagen Danner
18. Luis Meza
19. CJ Van Eyk

40 FV
20. Adam Kloffenstein
21. Nick Frasso
22. Kendry Rojas
23. Adrian Hernandez
24. Bowden Francis

35+ FV
25. Samad Taylor
26. Trent Palmer
27. Adrian Pinto
28. Vinny Capra
29. Max Castillo
30. Rafael Ohashi

No Chad Dallas really surprised me. Him and Juenger's lines have been fairly similar, granted Juenger is doing it 1 level higher, and Dallas is allowing quite a few more baserunners. I think they're both relievers eventually, but Dallas feels like sonmeone who should be in the 20's to me.

I also felt like I was high on Tanner Morris and then see you have him at 12. I was reluctant to move him for essentially unranked to that high with less than 2 months of this level of play. But it seems like comparatively I'm not as high as I thought.
 
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DFAing Borucki opens up a 40 man spot, would have preferred they went for Hernandez instead of Thornton but I would guess they feel they need some length. Mayza should be back in the near future so I don't think it'll be a long term stay.
Just looking at the roster, we technically have to send a pitcher (cough, Vasquez, cough) down and call up a position player. The 14-12 rule ended Sunday.
 
Just looking at the roster, we technically have to send a pitcher (cough, Vasquez, cough) down and call up a position player. The 14-12 rule ended Sunday.

Do we have a single lefty in the pen besides Vasquez with Borucki gone and Mayza on the IL? Perhaps Merryweather goes down?

Merged post: First time I'm seeing this but apparently it was extended through June 19th already.

 
Do we have a single lefty in the pen besides Vasquez with Borucki gone and Mayza on the IL? Perhaps Merryweather goes down?

Merged post: First time I'm seeing this but apparently it was extended through June 19th already.


Merryweather's peripherals are better than his output. Things will turn around.

Vasquez's only become decent when you adjust HR down to league average (and still a 4.30 xFIP)
 
No Chad Dallas really surprised me. Him and Juenger's lines have been fairly similar, granted Juenger is doing it 1 level higher, and Dallas is allowing quite a few more baserunners. I think they're both relievers eventually, but Dallas feels like sonmeone who should be in the 20's to me.

I also felt like I was high on Tanner Morris and then see you have him at 12. I was reluctant to move him for essentially unranked to that high with less than 2 months of this level of play. But it seems like comparatively I'm not as high as I thought.

I'm okay with being the high guy on Morris because he's a lefty that can hit and shows great plate discipline. He's a little older and might not be all that good at any position defensively but I see Biggio type potential with the hope that he doesn't falter like Biggio has recently.

Dallas is wait and see. He's in his age 22 season at A+ and doesn't really show any intriguing peripherals aside from the K rate.
 
Hope you’re not thinking I was upset, I was just genuinely curious. Sorry if it seemed that way.
Yeah, it's hard to tell sometimes especially given how often it happens around here. Things have improved a lot though since I started ignoring all the key names responsible for the childish behaviour.

This could create a domino effect, where Morris gets called up to AAA (he's earned it), and Barger could get a call to AA.
Biggio is starting to look more like a 1B/LF sort of deal where he doesn't look too bad. Thing is we have much better players for this spot even if he manages to recover his form, and there are plenty of interesting names in the mix for LF going forward. Heck, some of those extra SS/3B's littering the system could always go out there. Looks like it's time for Biggio to move on.
 
It's not, though. You can even take it to an extreme and look at the dumbest possible thing he could do. Down by one run, 9th inning, bases loaded, two out. Vladdy's scheduled to come up. Montoyo decides to pinch-hit Tapia instead. All else being equal, the chances of bringing that run in go from something like 40% to about 30%. That's a big difference, but it's also kind of not, especially considering it's so extreme that it's something no manager (including Montoyo) would ever do.

The things we complain about the most are tiny little things that feel bigger than they are but realistically have extremely minimal impact on the outcome of any play, let alone an entire game.
Again incorrect. 10% is a huge difference. Tapia batting leadoff puts the team at an immediate disadvantage for the entirety of that game. Montoyo has done this countless time. Most of the time managerial decisions impact the game lightly at best like you say. However, in the case of managers like Montoyo the team must win in spite of his inability to draw up a proper lineup. He is an absolute tire fire of a manager and hopefully the problem will be relieved of his duties sooner than later.


That's disgusting. I do not like him as a manager but going after someones family because you don't like how their husband/father manages is beyond pathetic. That's the stuff that discourages other from coming here.
 
DFAing Borucki opens up a 40 man spot, would have preferred they went for Hernandez instead of Thornton but I would guess they feel they need some length. Mayza should be back in the near future so I don't think it'll be a long term stay.
I thought he'd be a good back starter long man for us when he first came in. Hopefully, he finds his groove again somewhere
 
 
Bats are heating up and they are only 5.5 games back of the Yanks. Garcia looks much better. If Merryweather or someone else can elevate their game the bullpen looks fairly solid. Mayza is still out too.
 
Here's a chuckle for the morning:

The 23-24 White Sox are still the favorites to win the Central over the Twins.

The Twins (who lead the Central by 5 games) are slight underdogs for the division but only have 16% odds on the WC. That gives you an idea of how much weaker the Central is than the East or West.
 
Here's a chuckle for the morning:

The 23-24 White Sox are still the favorites to win the Central over the Twins.

The Twins (who lead the Central by 5 games) are slight underdogs for the division but only have 16% odds on the WC. That gives you an idea of how much weaker the Central is than the East or West.

I hate the AL East so much
 
Let's all marvel at "El Capitan" Alejandro Kirk. Not only is he hitting better than even most of us who were high on him could have expected (.304/.382/.432), but his defense has been above league average for the position, (which not a single prospect guy could have predicted), including a 33% caught stealing rate (TIED FOR 6TH AMONG STARTING CATCHERS!!!). He's second on the team in total WAR and is going to make one of Jansen or Moreno expendable soon (hopefully Jansen). :bow:
 
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Interesting article ESPN did on Juan Soto and what teams benefit the most by aquiring him.

Our championship odds increase the most of any team with him.


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please god let it happen.
 
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