Rumor: Blackhawks' Kevin Hayes on Rangers radar?
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This is like the Justin Schultz bit all over again.
August is slow for hockey news.
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Ohhh, okay. I never realized they knew they probably wouldn't sign him, I thought we had been snubbed or something. That was 2004 right I wonder if we used that pick to take Dubinsky. All I remember is Sather unloaded absolutely everyone for draft picks and prospects except for the Carter for Jagr deal. What did we get out of that retool/rebuild aside from Dubinsky and Callahan???
Beacon
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Correct.
Journalists keep repeating that he couldn't come to terms with the Rangers, but it's false. The very first day we got him, our management said they have no intention of signing him.
@krufrank: Apparently it was the NYR who offered Kevin Hayes a pretty good deal. Good enough to make him want to sleep on it. COL/BOS/NYR left standing
Dont know how credible he is. Looking at his twitter it seems as though he just retweets info he finds. Not sure if he is a reporter of some sort.
Dont know how credible he is. Looking at his twitter it seems as though he just retweets info he finds. Not sure if he is a reporter of some sort.
vipernsx
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With the great purge of 04 the Rangers were loaded with picks and added several prospects. All the prospects busted and relative to the volume, the draft turned out to be quite average. Add in the busts of 03 and poor turnout of the 02 draft and it's pretty clear that the Rangers are a lot better off with Clark, Schoenfeld, and later Gorton over Player Personnel and Development.
Oh please oh please oh please oh please!!!
Jim Morrison
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And a lot of NCAA kids in the rangers lineup.
Its not so much about the money since its all the same. Its about the other factors.
Well I wouldn't care about that if I didn't know them.
I'd look at opportunity. What's Boston's prospect pool look like? Or how bout all those kids in Colorado?
I'm an east coast kid so they'd be out for me.
Be between boston and NY for me if I'm him. Which lineup can I crack easier?
Rangers have no A plus prospects close outside of miller and they've got guys hitting UFA next summer. No brainer for me
I'd look at opportunity. What's Boston's prospect pool look like? Or how bout all those kids in Colorado?
I'm an east coast kid so they'd be out for me.
Be between boston and NY for me if I'm him. Which lineup can I crack easier?
Rangers have no A plus prospects close outside of miller and they've got guys hitting UFA next summer. No brainer for me
I don't think Parletts performance at Traverse was comparable to Erixon. Erixon owned the play at that level, completely controlled the play. Parletts made a few plays that some kids on a message board picked up on.
Of course a big difference between top guys and the lower level in that tournament. I don't follow what you mean by comparing a youth tournament with a crappy pro league? The U20 WJC must be much closer.
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Yes, but some teams might be willing to offer more bonuses than others. Also, they could be offering more in terms of playing time. It's not the Rangers style, but maybe they promised him a minimum number of games.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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Again a no brainer not to add him to the prospect pool. A yr in CT then he could make the team . Maybe he steals a spot in camp if signed but I doubt it
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Maybe. He supposedly can play LW or RW. Somewhere in the bottom 6.
Like I said, it isn't the Rangers' style to offer players guaranteed playing time, but what if they said "We'll give you a minimum of 20 games", or something like that. 20 games is 1/4 of the season. I'm sure he wouldn't mind a guarantee of earning at least 1/4 of his NHL salary.
Another team might be willing to give him max bonuses, but those are meaningless if he doesn't earn them, and he won't earn them in the AHL. Playing time is really the only currency these teams can use to up the ante.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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I would be pretty surprised if Hayes is ever as good as Hagelin/Zuccarello, or even Brassard, on a serious note.
This keeps getting repeated when people say he might be interested in being on a winning team...
It is my understanding that he wasn't leaving Chicago because of anything other than that their NHL lineup would be hard to crack in the next season or two, and he wanted a shot at the big league. I don't buy that Chicago, with their cap issues, didn't offer him the max they could on ELC in order to try to retain a cheap, cost controlled prospect. This isn't about the dollars. (EDIT: Well, at least in terms of the offers - obviously there is a difference if he plays in the AHL vs. NHL on these contracts).
And if the recent rumor mill is true that he eliminated Calgary and Florida from his list, it sure seems like he's targeting teams that have the potential to be at the top of the league over the next few seasons (Boston, Colorado, Pittsburgh, NYR) and cutting out the bottom dwellers. The difference between Chicago and those teams are in the prospect/winger pool and his potential to break the lineup in the near future.
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