Rask, Bjugstad, Sturm, Goligoski, Merrill, Kahkonen, Greenway and then possibly Dumba, Kulikov and Talbot. Maybe start the discussion on moving Zuccarello.
And then depending on what contract Fiala and Kaprizov signs.
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Rask, Bjugstad, Sturm, Goligoski, Merrill, Kahkonen, Greenway and then possibly Dumba, Kulikov and Talbot. Maybe start the discussion on moving Zuccarello.
And then depending on what contract Fiala and Kaprizov signs.
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Nico Sturm - 11 goals, 6 assists for 17 points playing 10:51 TOI
Marcus Johnasson - 6 goals, 8 assists for 14 points playing 15:56 TOI
Sturm had less time on the ice in the games he played in, was moved to wing when he is listed as a center.
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whats your point? he barely outproduced him, and johansson was injured a large portion of the games he played.
the point im making, is johansson was at the bottom of stats for players who played more than 30 games. sturm wasnt outproducing anyone really.
If youre going to argue that boldy and rossi need to earn their spot, the same goes for sturm. and he didnt earn squat off 17 points
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I guess I'm not that much of an "all or nothing" kind of thinker.
If Fiala ends up going to arbitration then that is a "D" grade for Guerin, IMO, and a sign that this team is going downhill with the wind. He did a good(not great) job on the JEE contract, but signing Kap and Fiala to good contracts were Job One this off season, followed by getting a top 6C. He has done none of those three so far.
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If we're in a playoff spot, there is 0% chance we're sellers at the deadline. I'd bet my next years wages on that.
RFA contracts sometimes take longer.. especially with guys who either may not want to be here or have a higher worth of themselves than the team does.
And yes...getting a top 6 center is a need...but he also needs to know how much money he has left to spend before he can do it. So until those two sign or are moved...there's not much he can do.
Agreed, but he also had all of last season and last summer to get a top 6C, as well as this summer. Gaudreau, Bjugstad, Bonino and Johansson aren't good enough, and going on the radio and saying that top 6C's aren't needed in today's game is absolute and utter BS that I am not buying.
He knows it's BS. No one expects you to buy it...but he's also not going to say yeah we're desperate for a 1C and will do anything to get one either. I get people are impatient...but it needs to be exercised.
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Convenient to cut off the rest of it...
And again...what you think about his moves ...doesn't matter. You're never going to fully know "the plan." I honestly don't know why you feel like you have to know.
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I don’t have to be a mechanic to know my car runs bad, I don’t have to be a doctor to know my leg is broken, and I don’t have to be an NHL gm to see that a team is in worse shape at center than it was when he started.
I find that to be something to go “Hmmm” about.
I find that to be something to go “Hmmm” about.
It's conjecture right now to say they are worse at center at least than last year...and the off-season is not finished yet either.
I will say though that considering Koivu retired and Staal was God awful last year...I don't think we'd be really good at center with those two here anyway.
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Considering he hasn’t effectively replaced either of those guys yet I guess we can keep waiting for the moves he might make?
And a lot of fans for other teams do know 'the plans' for their teams. LA King fans and New Jersey fans knew they were rebuilding. Ottawa knows they aren't going to spend to the cap. San Jose fans know that for whatever reason Wilson thinks they are a competitive team.
Why fans have to know is that they devote a lot of money and time to a team. If they are going to be God awful, maybe they'd like to skip or know that it's going to be a few years before they are competitive again and to wait it out.
But they don't know exact specifics which is what it seems you want.
And fan money...can always be replaced.
They know that they are rebuilding or trying to make the playoffs. Guerin hasn't even said other than he's trying to rebuild the culture, whatever the hell that means.
Also I love the dismissive, fan money can always be replaced. So why is Leipold trying to make the playoffs constantly if money can be replaced?
I don't care if he says it or doesn't say it. If you need to know if it's a rebuild to decide your fandom...you do you.
And yes it can be replaced...just check the waiting list for season tickets. Some fans leave...others will take their place.
He's also said finding #1 centers is almost impossible via trade or free agency...which leaves the draft..so yeah... waiting is kinda the choice.
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GordieGallant
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You forgot “I don’t need to be a weatherman to see which way the wind blows.”
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Who said #1C? Not me. I’d simply be happy with an upgrade from Rask/Bjugstad/Bonino. But Guerin is approaching this like its splitting the atom. Other teams have found better players. Must be luck?
Well we have Rossi and again ..the off-season is not over yet. Patience really isn't a virtue around here.
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You guys worry too much, and you don't see Guerin's plan.
He's built a new blueline, who knows how this will work, but fingers crossed.
He hopes the kids will be a key factor, my boy will lead the forwards and turn Boldy and Rossi into NHL caliber.
Then you have the mighty Talbot in net.
Guerin has signed so many character guys they'll have a party in the locker room every night. Playoffs here we come!
He's built a new blueline, who knows how this will work, but fingers crossed.
He hopes the kids will be a key factor, my boy will lead the forwards and turn Boldy and Rossi into NHL caliber.
Then you have the mighty Talbot in net.
Guerin has signed so many character guys they'll have a party in the locker room every night. Playoffs here we come!
