Prospect Info: Bedard Topic 2
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DisgruntledHawkFan
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You develop guys at center because if you can play center you can play wing without much trouble. It's like putting a natural center fielder in left.
HagelsBagels
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Think this is the best Bedard interview I've seen since he's been drafted:
Kevin Musto
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Wally1112pac
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I'm just waiting for Bedard to score his 1st goal at the UC and watching the roof blow off.
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Connor BeJesus
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Pretty cool Panger saying Wayne Gretzky and his son will be at the game Monday. Alot of legends have watched Bedard in person so far.
ChiHawks10
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For one, the data for this is probably not all that reliable, and is likely highly flawed. The technology is pretty much brand new.
For two, you aren't reading the data properly for skating. There's nothing in there that says "he's a below average skater."
The speed data points can easily be explained by his IQ/hockey sense, and his knack for being in proper positioning most of the time. If you're always where you need to be, you're not chasing, which means you're not pushing to skate at top speed as often, which means you're also expending less energy. In other words, it suggests that he knows when he needs to kick it into high gear, and when he doesn't, and is generally in a position to where he doesn't need to spend a lot of time at top speeds.
He's also regularly being double-teamed, and jammed up everywhere he goes on the ice. When you're the one guy on a team who can single-handedly beat another team, they're going to key on you. This would explain why he hasn't had a faster top speed recorded. Wait until he gets a slightly contested breakaway or something that would provide a more accurate number for his top speed.
As far as his shot, there's nothing wrong with an 83mph wrist shot(which is pretty much all he uses). I think I've seen one clapper in the games I've watched, and he didn't get all of it. Remember he's only 18. He's going to get stronger. That shot speed will improve by quite a bit still. And it's not his shot speed that is his strong point. It's his quick release, and ability to change up the angles of release very quickly.
You're reading way too much into these fancy stats.
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My thoughts are that you will enjoy Bedard's rookie year a lot more if you stop constantly looking for reasons to panic
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Connor BeJesus
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Getting caught up over flawed analytical data is pretty common for a certain poster... I also see elite acceleration (and speed burst) in that graphic too. Skating isn't all about top speed.
In the athletic article, Rasmus Kupari owns the top speed this season. But for frequencies tabs for 22 plus mph and 20 plus mph speed bursts you see the MacKinnons and McDavids of the world. What @ChiHawks10 said is pretty much as spot on as you can get.
In the athletic article, Rasmus Kupari owns the top speed this season. But for frequencies tabs for 22 plus mph and 20 plus mph speed bursts you see the MacKinnons and McDavids of the world. What @ChiHawks10 said is pretty much as spot on as you can get.
BHawk21
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who cares what that says. you can clearly see with an eye test fairly average skating but an elite shot, playmaking, hands, hockey sense, and vision.
belfour30
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Ok, thanks. I wanted to bring it up for discussion, that's all.
Wish I would've phrased my comments in more of a discussion way rather than making definitive statements.
Like this is what I see, what do you think?
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Toews2Bickell
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96th percentile in speed burts over 20 mph but below avg at top speed? probably a lot of noise and situational stuff in that data, tiny sample size regardless
No Fun Shogun
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Reading literally anything into a six game sample size is pretty inane.
BLKHKhockey
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Don't need stats to see he isn't exactly a burner. Though, I am surprised he isn't a little stronger on his skates given his build.
Kid's going to be just fine. I'm sure skating will be a top priority for him next summer. Seems like he has that MJ-like drive and determination.
Kid's going to be just fine. I'm sure skating will be a top priority for him next summer. Seems like he has that MJ-like drive and determination.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Flawed metrics on a nothing sample size. Lafferty had five points in four games to start last two year and two of them were short handed. For some odd reason he didn't win the Selke.
TLEH
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My thought are its idiotic, who cares. His wrist shot is absolutely lethal. And was Gretzky a blazing skater with blazing shot speed? How about Kane? The kid is a big time hockey player, you can skate like the wind and crank pucks 100 plus miles an hour and suck at hockey.
CallMeShaft
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Even if he sucked analytically, which it's way too early to say, who cares? He'd hardly be the first 1st overall by the Hawks who the analytics community didn't care for.
Darkstar
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Everything about Bedard's skating except top speed is very good. Like Kane, he frequently slows the play down and uses his quickness to create chances. I am a little puzzled about his balance because he's always been strong on his skates.
This is a thread about Bedard, why you talking about Andreas Athanasiou?
