Barracuda News & Discussion VII

[Hobocop]

Empty net goal.

Alright. Screw literally everything about that game. Tomorrow's got to be better.

3-0 Marlies, final.

 

[Hobocop]

Didn't feel like we looked dangerous on offense this afternoon, but I didn't really feel like Toronto did, either. Combine that with their goalie making a couple big saves and two or three questionable penalties called on us, and you get the above result. Better luck tomorrow.

 

[knu]

Didn't feel like we looked dangerous on offense this afternoon, but I didn't really feel like Toronto did, either. Combine that with their goalie making a couple big saves and two or three questionable penalties called on us, and you get the above result. Better luck tomorrow.

It's been 8 games now. How does Muk look?

 

[OrrNumber4]

It's been 8 games now. How does Muk look?

2 points. Not a great sign.

You have to think that even next year, the Sharks will start with Ferraro, Walman, and Liljegren. Thompson is playing his way into a permanent spot.

That's leaves two spots for Thrun, Mukhamadullin, Cagnoni, and Dickinson. Also, I imagine that the Sharks want one more veteran defender, so perhaps just one spot is available.

 

[Hobocop]

It's been 8 games now. How does Muk look?

Pretty good, I thought last Sunday was his best game, but his offense is just not materializing as of yet. That was his main strength last season. He's skating well and defending pretty well.

 

[Hobocop]

Carriere in net, with an EBUG. Romanov not available (no explanation as to why). Meanwhile the Marlies go with Matt Murray in net.

Coe and Furlong in, Carlsson and Houle out.

This play by play guy absolutely loves Brandon Coe.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Does Furlong have an NHL future?

 

[Hobocop]

End of the first. Cuda mostly in control, but not really a lot going on. One power play apiece, shots are 6-3 SJ.

We have been pretty good on the forecheck.

 

[Hobocop]

Ugh. Marlies score with 7 seconds left in the second on a rebound. Bounced right to Stevens. I was actually just thinking to myself it was going to take a bit of a lucky bounce to break the deadlock.

Marlies had some good chances in the second, but this is still a really tight game. 1-0 Toronto, end of two.

Looking at the replay, I have no idea where tf Keane (94) was going on this play:

 

[TheBeard]

Ugh. Marlies score with 7 seconds left in the second on a rebound. Bounced right to Stevens. I was actually just thinking to myself it was going to take a bit of a lucky bounce to break the deadlock.

Marlies had some good chances in the second, but this is still a really tight game. 1-0 Toronto, end of two.

Looking at the replay, I have no idea where tf Keane (94) was going on this play:

I have no idea what Keane brings

 

[Lebanezer]

I have no idea what Keane brings

A relationship with Warsofsky.

 

[TheBeard]

A relationship with Warsofsky.

I meant on the ice.

 

[Hobocop]

Gushchin with a crazy snipe on the PP to tie it.

Marlies went to the box on what looked like a really weak slashing call, but I'll take it.

 

[Lebanezer]

I meant on the ice.

That’s all he’s got.

 

[Lebanezer]

 

[Hobocop]

And we're headed to OT. Really, this game could've gone either way so that feels fitting.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Hobocop]

The absolute worst kind of OT, both teams just held possession and skated trying to tire the other team out. I appreciated Bailey just saying "screw this" and driving the net towards the end. Headed to a shootout.

 

[Hobocop]

Shootout results:
TOR: Kressler (X), Shaw (X)
SJ: Gushchin (✓), Poturalski (✓)

Cuda win.

What a move by Poturalski.

First star of the game: Gabriel Carriere. Amazing game from him.

 

[OrrNumber4]

My issue with an analysis like this is that if Cagnoni had a 16% chance of becoming a superstar and a 58% chance of being an NHLer in his draft year, then there's no way he goes in the 4th round. I'm wondering how many other prospects had a similar profile to Fox but flamed out?

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Lebanezer]

My issue with an analysis like this is that if Cagnoni had a 16% chance of becoming a superstar and a 58% chance of being an NHLer in his draft year, then there's no way he goes in the 4th round. I'm wondering how many other prospects had a similar profile to Fox but flamed out?

It’s all statistical probabilities. As in, based mostly on player statistics, league trends etc. Height clearly played a part in him dropping. They can’t really come up with a relatively accurate way to incorporate more complex attributes like height, coachability etc.

 

[OrrNumber4]

It’s all statistical probabilities. As in, based mostly on player statistics, league trends etc. Height clearly played a part in him dropping. They can’t really come up with a relatively accurate way to incorporate more complex attributes like height, coachability etc.

Yeah, my point is that figuring all those things in, teams around the clearly felt that his probabilities were much lower.

 

[Jargon]

Yeah, my point is that figuring all those things in, teams around the clearly felt that his probabilities were much lower.

I think it’s height and skating speed (he’s a good skater but he’s not Cale Makar). But neither seem to be an impediment to him so far at the AHL level — which I think already makes him pretty special (ie beating what people expected).

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

It’s all statistical probabilities. As in, based mostly on player statistics, league trends etc. Height clearly played a part in him dropping. They can’t really come up with a relatively accurate way to incorporate more complex attributes like height, coachability etc.

You can incorporate height/weight into a model. Mine includes height and is far less bullish on Cagnoni's star probability. I don't believe Byron's does.