Blue Jays Discussion: Back in Toronto AND things are happening (trade deadline @ 4pm ET/1pm PT today)

[dredeye]

Or at least force them to take Grichuk's contract or something.

Or make them pay for the whole thing like the Yankees managed to do

 

[Hoverhand]

Could you imagine lmao

 

[Suntouchable13]

Donaldson still has $50M owed over 2 years and a buyout after this season and also has a NTC, which I would expect has Toronto on it. I’d imagine an acquiring team could get him for nearly free if they take all the money or would have to pay a decent price to get Minnesota to eat some of it or take a bad contract back.

Just curious, why do you think his NTC has Toronto on it?

 

[stickty111]

Well they have less then an hour to do more.

 

[kovacro]

Could you imagine lmao

Maeda must be off somewhere. A bit surprised they would deal him. Is his contract not reasonable which you would think appeals to the Twins?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Jansen's defense has taken a bit of a step back this year, but it was 15th last year and 8th the year before. Reese in a SSS has been great and has a defensive rep, but I fail to see a gigantic difference going forward.

Jansen
(2020)) 342.1IP -4DRS 0.2DWAR 6CS 20SB (23.1%)
(2021) 338.1IP 1DRS 0.5DWAR 3CS 18SB (14%)

"Fingers" McGuire
(2020)) 342.IP 1DRS 0.3DWAR 4CS 4SB (50%)
(2021) 337.IP 2DRS 0.5DWAR 10CS 7SB (41.2%)

McGuire is equal to him statistically in every defensive category except throwing where he absolutely demolishes him.

 

[Discoverer]

Or make them pay for the whole thing like the Yankees managed to do

The Yankees gave up a 50 FV and a 45 FV prospect for two months of Rizzo. I should hope the Cubs paid the salary because that is a much worse overpay than what the Jays gave up here.

 

[Hoverhand]

Maeda must be off somewhere. A bit surprised they would deal him. Is his contract not reasonable which you would think appeals to the Twins?

I think the starting pitching market at the TDL is more appealing to them. Thanks to us lol

 

[TF97]

Just curious, why do you think his NTC has Toronto on it?

It’s not uncommon for Toronto to be on a players no trade list given the border. The same with how a lot of big market teams end up on NTC’s so that a player has a better chance of getting something from the team in exchange for waiving - not to mention some players just might not want those big markets and media attention.

 

[Tony Romo]

TDL is at 4pm right?

 

[dubplatepressure]

Very steep.. especially because they’re chasing a bit for just the second WC spot. With other teams loading up so much, should have just stood pat.

That is what I thought. And I didn't seem to see any other top prospects going out in those trades. Is Martin the beat prospect traded so far this TDL?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Could you imagine lmao

Probably Pineda for peanuts?

 

[dredeye]

Between this and David Krejci announcing he's done in North America I think it's time I turn my phone off for the day

Right

 

[paul pearce]

Alot of bad fans in here if you think we aren't making playoffs after coming back home tonight on a hot streak with the addition of berrios for maybe prospects. This is why none of u will be gm. Sit back watch an enjoy what happens with this team. Springer back hitting leadoff, best clubhouse and offense with a lethal rotation. Do the Yankees scare u? Offense looks good but starting 5 pitchers aren't comparable

 

[habamillions]

Could you imagine lmao

Happ to stlouis

 

[TF97]

Probably Pineda for peanuts?

J.A. Happ on the move out of nowhere

He’s going to St. Louis for Gant

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[Deebo]

 

[phillipmike]

Could you imagine lmao

JA "7 ERA" Happ to the Cards for John Gant

 

[canucksfan]

If this is the only trade the Jays make, I will find that weird.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Did they just get a better return for Happ than we did when he was the best starter on the market?

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Advanced stats]

The Berrios deal is moreso about ensuring that we're in a better spot this time around next season.

We could very well lead the division next year

 

[theaub]

That return for Gomes/Harrison is underwhelming to say the least

 

[weems]

Interesting Fangraphs article that was just posted and it's not too favourable towards Martin.

Twins Get Bounty For Berrios, But It’s One That’s Not Without Risk

 

[phillipmike]

Also did realize SWR fell off so much.