Something like that. I just laughed as I saw a video the other day. Not sure if it was a Missin Curfew or Spittin Chicklets and I laughed when Chelios was talking about boozing on the bench. Kids were behind him too lol
The kid was probably scared if he said no. When someone in a position of power asks you something like that and you are trying to get a job it's an abuse of power.
I think most recognize the obvious impropriety in a superior asking for access to a subordinate's personal phone, then scrolling through it extensively.
Lumping phonegate in with "hazing" is just wrong. This is definitely something that should have been handled internally. Putting it like that is really denigrating those who survived abuse from authority figures. But you're certainly not wrong about the reputation coming first here.
I guess, but they are the leaders and they said it was disappointing that it was blown out of proportion. So they didn't think it was a big deal, which means they don't have a good grasp of how their teammates feel.
Columbus: "Resign or you'll be fired."
It is serious. There's no practical reason for a bag skate. It's a punishment that tells a player: I own your body and if you want a place on this team, you're going to work for it.
Own your body? That's an interesting take, as skating is at least a minor part of hockey while show and tell or whatever this was is not.
more like:
There is. We still don't know what the difference is exactly, but there is one.
Would you rather have Fantilli or Babcock ? There's your answer, the guys a POS, he was called out and exposed and forced to resign for being a POS human being that treats everyone around him like garbage.
Because your right to personal privacy is separate from your right to not work hard at your job. Your coach has more right to work on your conditioning or effort than to sift through your personal photos. This is not complicated.
It's remarkable that this needs to be explained to people.
like... the fact that one requires skates and usually pads (because it's a weighted skate so why not) is already a key indicator that it's more hockey relevant than me scrolling through your camera roll.
It’s willful ignorance at this point. It’s really the same old recycled words from similar sounding people. Some vague issue with the culture in our society, calling the new generation soft, easily offended, blah blah blah, rinse and repeat.
It's complicated because it's unclear that he was "going through" a phone, reading emails, checking bank accounts or whatever. It seems pretty unlikely but the mob has spoken.
I don’t think he was saying it’s equally bad. It’s that hockey culture would traditionally lead to players feeing like they can’t even tell management (which Jarmo basically said), and even if they did they could be called weak, or even if management / team leadership doesn’t think it’s weak… they call him a distraction.
How is it unclear? Doesn't matter what he was looking at. He should've never even asked for a players phone
"And yet, according to Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman, Babcock spent "several minutes" away from team facilities looking through a player's phone."
a.) this only seems unclear to you, we just don't know who it was or what information was seen. It's already been reported that he was going through at least one phone with the player not near it.
This has nothing to do with the media now though. The PA investigated and clearly young Blue Jacket players confirmed they were very uncomfortable with his "methods." This isn't a media witch hunt this is just him getting caught once again mentally abusing guys as a means to coach them in ****ing hockey. He's psychotic. It's a sport dude, relax.
No no, if you're a millionaire you instantly forfeit your right to personal privacy in your workplace and anyone caught violating that very basic aspect of being a professional is a victim of cancel culture and the woke mob.
Under most privacy and data protection laws, consent is considered to be valid only if it is timely, informed, specific, and freely given. That last one is why consent is typically not (or typically shouldn’t be) used in employer-employee relationships, because of the innate imbalance of power between the parties (E.g. “consenting” to share one’s personal data with their employer doesn’t mean much when the consequence of withholding consent is termination or some other punishment). Collecting/reviewing personal data in such a circumstance is literally unlawful under applicable privacy and data protection laws. Ohio doesn’t (yet) have a general privacy law (and the US lacks same at the federal level) but they do have a few well established privacy torts that could expose the BlueJackets to potential financial and reputational risk. The affected players would seem to be well within their rights to pursue damages under (at least one of) these torts.
