Babcock resigning as CBJ Head Coach *Mod note, post #687*

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

I want my boss/supervisor to do their job and I’ll do mine.


You do realize there are multiple bosses in a company right?

They have names like a supervisor, but their not the boss they still report to the boss.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Like calling someone dumb isn't making pithy remarks lol ok whatever you say.

1) I'm not the one trying to claim I'm not arguing and only calmly stating my opinion

2) nice attempt to dodge the fact you essentially pointed out Babs could have just looked at their social media

3) quit being so sensitive, you're obviously blowing everything out of proportion and I should be given the benefit of the doubt despite everything else I've said or done

 

[PainForShane]

He's their coach, did he hire these players? Isn't that what a boss does he hires people, how is he their boss if he didn't hire them? It's not about control it's about being a family on a team, and trusting one and another, there's no I in team, it's a team game.

He's their boss because he controls their ice time, can bench them and potentially destroy their careers. This is not hard to understand.

If you honestly think that a hockey team is like a family I honestly don't know what to tell you. More importantly, if you honestly think a healthy family goes through each others' cell phone photos I don't know what to tell you either

 

[ORRFForever]

...respect people in the work place.

Like it or not, corporate life is kill or be killed - and it will always be like that.

If a barista complains online about working at Starbucks, it won't matter - people listen for 10 seconds, forget and move on. But, if you REALLY want to succeed in business, you can't be soft - a person like that will NEVER last / will never make the big bucks.

To avoid offending workers, corporations will just move to robots / A.I over time. Can you blame them?

 

[Cas]

This is very strange, and not in the way people are saying. Babcock I don't doubt wanted to get to know his players. In this social media age we have lost a lot of togetherness with each other and I highly doubt Babcock is a big social media type of guy so he was trying to connect in the only way he thought possible. This sort of reminds me of Al Arbour. He knew the names of his players' wives, he knew their kids, etc. He had a great interest in the lives of his players. Since when did this become wrong? I know that when I coach I always make sure I know the names of the child's parents. Maybe not on the first day do I remember this, but as the season goes on I get to know all of their names. People feel more comfortable with you if you know their name. It means you took time to do this. If the kids have siblings I become familiar with them too. This used to just be common courtesy and nothing more. Leave it to Biz and the NHLPA for making it a big issue. Didn't the veterans on Columbus actually defend Babcock?

I have never once asked to access my coworker's phone, wallet, diary, high school yearbooks, family tree, or anything else, in order to get to know them.

If I want to get to know my coworkers, I usually talk to them and ask them questions. That is what normal humans usually do.

 

[CycloneSweep]

They have names like a supervisor, but their not the boss they still report to the boss.

Lol.
You are playing dumb semantics for no reason.
Coaches are in a position of power over the players and control their day to day. They aren’t the person signing the checks but they are their direct boss.

 

[Ulysses31]

Babcock brings the lols and the Ws, hockey is less fun without him

 

[JPeeper]

I ain't going through 41 pages and I have to assume it's been posted, but Mike Commodore approves of this.

Never doubt Mike Commodore when it comes to his hatred of Mike Babcock.

 

[Mike C]

Does Babcock pay them?

As a representative of management, he indirectly does

I don't want the GM, the owner, the shift managers or any other member of the managerial heirerarchy knowing anything about me other than my pay rate

 

[CherryToke]

Does he actually sit down and look at the photos with players or is it just some kind of test to see how they react? He seems to get off on seeing people in uncomfortable situations.

 

[Divine]

The latest article from ESPN makes it seem like it's even worse than it appears. What Biz reported was just the tip of the iceberg.

Why Mike Babcock is out as Blue Jackets coach -- before his first game

The veteran coach resigned days before the start of training camp. Here's everything that led up to this moment, and what's next for the team.

www.espn.com

According to a source with knowledge of the NHLPA, it became clear that veteran players like Jenner were having a much different experience with Babcock than young players were having.

What was reported by Bissonnette was "the tip of the iceberg," according to a source.

 

[Riddum]

Such a good coach, such a bad human...

Massively overrated coach and he's a weirdo.

 

[Beau Knows]

Babcock brings the lols and the Ws, hockey is less fun without him

He does? He seemed like a pretty boring guy, until we learned that he was such a f***ing weirdo behind the scenes.

 

[HTFN]

If you asked Mike Babcock for his phone, you would only find photographs of Mike Babcock. Photographs of Mike Babcock taking pictures of Mike Babcock.

Mike Babcock doesn't do what Mike Babcock does for Mike Babcock

Mike Babcock does what Mike Babcock does because he is... Mike Babcock

his name is Mike Babcock,
the first coach of the year
to lose his job
for being a knob
who's that? it's him
Mike Babcock

 

[Korpse]

Have you? You do realize the boss hires a coach right?

Does he? Tell me. Who is the boss?

A coach is an authority figure to the players. He sets expectations and instructs them. He is their boss. You aren’t even making a strong argument while arguing semantics.

 

[Guttersniped]

That's exactly what majority of the people here are doing I see, they've come to their own conclusion on what they believe is the truth, when the truth hasn't even come out, no substantial evidence.

So your posts are full of ridiculous nonsense claims and terrible observations because it’s meant to show what it’s like to blow hot air? Neat.

Your weird hypotheticals are from outer space and you endlessly arguing about the exact wording of the limited information we have.

Parsing that wording endlessly won’t reveal more truth, but you aren’t trying to do that. You’re ferociously trying to roil debates where no new ones exist because you want to fight with people over this.

But I don’t want to keep you from asking people what they would do if their hypothetical boss at McDonalds asked to see the photos in wallet.

 

[Crosby2010]

I have never once asked to access my coworker's phone, wallet, diary, high school yearbooks, family tree, or anything else, in order to get to know them.

If I want to get to know my coworkers, I usually talk to them and ask them questions. That is what normal humans usually do.

It was unusual. But worthy of forcing them to resign? The little princess that went to Biz and complained, I mean, really? You are a grown millionaire man and you can't just tell the coach that you aren't comfortable with it on your own? Ugh.............modern athletes

 

[Mike C]

I have never once asked to access my coworker's phone, wallet, diary, high school yearbooks, family tree, or anything else, in order to get to know them.

If I want to get to know my coworkers, I usually talk to them and ask them questions. That is what normal humans usually do.

I don't even ask to see my wife's phone, nor should I. It's none of my GD business what's on there.

What's more, whether it be her or an employee, I really don't give a crap!

 

[Nasti]

Poor Jackets fans. As though it wasn’t bad enough to lose one legend in Jonathan Quick this year, they lost another one tonight.

 

[CDJ]

Like it or not, corporate life is kill or be killed - and it will always be like that.

If a barista complains online about working at Starbucks, it won't matter - people listen for 10 seconds, forget and move on. But, if you REALLY want to succeed in business, you can't be soft - a person like that will NEVER last / will never make the big bucks.

To avoid offending workers, corporations will just move to robots / A.I over time. Can you blame them?

In the corporate world if your boss does this the company is losing a lot of money in a lawsuit

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

1) I'm not the one trying to claim I'm not arguing and only calmly stating my opinion

2) nice attempt to dodge the fact you essentially pointed out Babs could have just looked at their social media

3) quit being so sensitive, you're obviously blowing everything out of proportion and I should be given the benefit of the doubt despite everything else I've said or done

I'm not I'm defending everyone arguing my view, but nice try.

I did mention that earlier, but hey nice try.

Looks like the ones who are sensitive are the ones who can't handle Babcock asking to see photos, but hey nice try again.

 

[ORRFForever]

In the corporate world if your boss does this the company is losing a lot of money in a lawsuit

Lawsuits are expensive and you are up against monster companies with lawyers on retainer. They'll drag out the lawsuit knowing you have mouths to feed / bills to pay. For every lawsuit you hear about, there are a 1,000,000 incidents that never get reported.

If you believe worse doesn't go on on a daily basis in corporate America, you've never worked in corporate America.

 

[12ozPapa]

Almost wish the statement said “He’s resigning because he’s a total douche”. I’m sure some would still rise to his defense for some odd, boomer, reason

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Babs was just trying to get to know his players more that's it, and unfortunately some players just couldn't handle it, just different generations of people, definitely blown way out of proportion.


I'm just voicing my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I'm not I'm defending everyone arguing my view, but nice try.

I did mention that earlier, but hey nice try.

Looks like the ones who are sensitive are the ones who can't handle Babcock asking to see photos, but hey nice try again.

If Capital Direct can ask "What's in your wallet" then why not Mike Babcock...