Golden_Jet
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Proposal: B. Tkachuk for Kyrou.
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That’s what it would take.
bert
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Id never do this, Brady has more value. There simply arent players like him anymore. Hfboards constantly undervalues physicality but it matters. Thomas is a great player but there are only a handful of players that bring what Tkachuk does. Ottawas has good center depth too. They are soft as hell as a team other than Tkachuk and Greig. They simply cant afford to give him up.
Majorityof1
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How does physicality matter outside of allowing him to score points, play defense, etc? If it matters it should show up on the scoreboard or advanced stats. There is zero metrics you can sight to say Tkachuk is anywhere near as valuable as Thomas. Saying Ottawa has good Center depth is fine. You can not want a trade lopsided in your favor because of needs. But Ottawa fans are asking for Thomas in these deals. So that isn't the case. They just vastly overrate Brady, or underrate Thomas.
Fair point. He is in the box a bunch, but he does draw as many or more penalties consistently. The rest of my argument stands. He has 4 years and will want the world after that.
n8
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Some STL fans be unhinged. To keep on topic, it'd be best to avoid any "value of Thomas" discussion. That is clearly a touchy topic for them.
Senators and I will trade.
Kyrou for Senators would work.
Goes bad for Senators this time in seasons.
Kyrou trade a strong trade.
Kyrou for Senators would work.
Goes bad for Senators this time in seasons.
Kyrou trade a strong trade.
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I understand that Sens fans don't want Kyrou, that's fine I get it. No point in even arguing it anymore. However, to say the Tkachuk would return Thomas is just f***ing delusional. First off centers always hold more value than wingers. Next, you compare contracts your talking 7 more years vs 4 more years at a similar cap hit. Lastly, Tkachuk is a defensively liability while Thomas is one of the best two way centers in the league. Tkachuk is a very good hockey player but Thomas is clear and away the better of the two at this point and holds more value.
I have said it before and will say it again, I don't even think Tkachuk will be traded and if he is it will be a few years down the road. That being said some Sens fans really need to temper their expectations on that potential return because what some of you suggesting are patently ridiculous.
I have said it before and will say it again, I don't even think Tkachuk will be traded and if he is it will be a few years down the road. That being said some Sens fans really need to temper their expectations on that potential return because what some of you suggesting are patently ridiculous.
Voight
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I wouldn't be so sure. If they miss the playoffs again next year, that would be 7 NHL seasons and zero playoff games for him. Everyone has a breaking point.
There is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a Brady Tkachuk is. The entire league is looking for guys like this who can score, agitate and lead and still 24. And everybody will see offensive upside like Matthew -- something that is maybe overvalued. Robert Thomas is a great player but his offense is only a little better and he doesn't bring the other stuff. Kyrou is a nice nice player but hardly a star. Both locked down makes them very nice.
I'm a Sabres fan and personally, I don't get Ottawa trading Tkachuk. They need a game changing D man for that.
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deca guard
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ide never trade brady , his leadership by example is worth way more than could be measured in stats
Voight
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Congrats... Tkachuk has better stats. I would expect a much given hes played over 100 more games than Kyrou....
Congrats... Tkachuk has better stats. I would expect a much given hes played over 100 more games than Kyrou....
It's not just goals and assists
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Maybe there aren’t players like him anymore because players don’t need to play like that anymore?
This reminds me of the thread where Blues fans were saying they wouldn't trade Kyrou for Matthew Tkachuk because he was going to sign there anyway in a year. It's good to see not much has changed with these folks. Only a complete moron wouldn't trade Kyrou for Brady. That trade would never in a million years be on the table in the first place.
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All Blues fans would trade Kyrou for Brady. No Blues fan would trade Thomas for Brady. Try to keep up son.
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I'm not your son. You have limited understanding of the sport if you think either player is what Brady is.
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If you think Brady has more value than Thomas, I can’t help you.
It's not even debatable outside of your market. There are lots of skilled offensive centers in the league. Brady is the most effective power forward in the game. You'd think the franchise that had Shanahan would understand he's more important that a middling top 6 center who has never scored more than 20 goals.
Linkens Mastery
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This thread really needs to die. It's going nowhere. lol No deal to be made.
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I value a top 10 PPG center over a a less than PPG PF
Alright, we’ll see when Ottawa can finally make the playoffs with one of the most effective players in the game. The Blues will keep Thomas, who is having a better season this year than Brady has ever had.
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I’d personally much rather have Tkachuk on my team than Thomas, so I guess I’d value him more.
It's almost as if you've never heard people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You guys said the same thing with Matthew last year. Then him and a goalie dragged the Panthers to the finals.
Everyone who understands the sport at all would. It's not close.
