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Not talking about just speed here. ASP's lateral movement and agility is a joy to watch.
Frk It
Mo Seider Less Problems
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His skating looks a good bit better than I thought it was pre-draft. Also looks more dynamic with the puck too. Pretty encouraged by him overall.
I just think Larkin is still a pretty special skater and in the top 5 or so % in the league.
He plays like a young Filip Hronek. It's a joy to watch.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Not nearly enough giveaways. And his facial hair doesn’t incite my rage.l the same way Hronek’s did.
Peter Tosh
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Let’s hope ASP turns out to be more like the younger version of Hronek than the >7M version (0+2 this far)
Perfect Human
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I see your point but not sure I get the Quinn Hughes reference. He played in NA his whole life.Can Quinn Hughes play effectively on the smaller ice?
For, me it looks like ASP does not need any extra width in size rink, when he goes just through the middle of the ice to score.
The real question is centered around his ability to walk the line using stutter steps and fakes before attacking. If you visualize what the size of a standard rink is, while watching the highlights., he seems to be off the ice and using more space than ge would have in NA.
I hope for and want him to be the best player Steve drafted. I was and still am super excited about the pick. Love his game, just a bit cautious because we have seen young players, such as nills lundqvist, light up the SHL and not have their game translate.
I hope you are right, he’s a stud so far
Henkka
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Pellikka currently in Finland at U20 practise tournament.
Scored 1+1 against Czechs at Sweden 5-4 (ot) win.
Goal was on power-play, had also team-high 7 shots on goal. Could not find any ice-times from the data, but Pellikka was slotted on the 1st defensive pair.
Sweden will play again on Friday, saturday and sunday.
All teams will play 4 games in 5 days.
Scored 1+1 against Czechs at Sweden 5-4 (ot) win.
Goal was on power-play, had also team-high 7 shots on goal. Could not find any ice-times from the data, but Pellikka was slotted on the 1st defensive pair.
Sweden will play again on Friday, saturday and sunday.
All teams will play 4 games in 5 days.
Oddbob
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Hey, Hronek played his best Wings hockey with that awesome facial hair he had. Shaved it off and then regressed.
izlez
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Oof. Really losing a lot of respect for Ogee here. Mustachioed Hronek was maybe the best thing to happen to the Red Wings in several years
Gniwder
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I'm usually negative about prospects, and I'm excited about this one.
Probably jinxed him now....
Maybe I can fix it by saying I wanted Moore on draft day? I dunno, the hockey Gods are fickle, and they all hate me. But hey, if I keep saying Copp sucks, they'll make the puck bounce off his skates into the goal....
Copp sucks, Copp sucks, Bettelguese, Bettlejuice, hare krishna, hare krishna, my sweet lord, Copp sucks.
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Dotter
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That Scouching guy thinks Neiderbach is still Red Wings property. Probably not the best guy on YouTube to put any stock in his content. He also says Cossa is a depth goalie and Mazur is a maybe.
lilidk
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This guy has too much information in his head and of course he could make some mistakes. He also called Soderblom defansman. Still , there are lots of things for improvement for ASP. Most importantly needs to get faster.
OMG , just noticed chocolate, used to have one, love it
Realgud
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Huh? The video is very good and super detailed. What do you disagree with exactly?
Dotter
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I laid it out. He predicts Cossa is mid. He thinks Mazur is a bust. He thinks both Kasper and Danielsson are depth.
And he thinks Neiderbach is Wings property. I also don't think he understands ASP is on big ice.
Realgud
Not good enough for SKA
...so what do you disagree with exactly? ASP's speed? His defensive play? What about that will be better on the smaller ice? I'd like to hear your thoughts as I think these are significant hurdles for him to overcome to reach his high-end potential. I think I get what you mean about the speed not being as much of a factor on smaller ice, I guess we'll see. But I do think he will have to rely on his very good passing and deception to create space against NHL competition instead, which could limit his game overall, especially in the defensive and neutral zone.
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Realgud
Not good enough for SKA
I always thought his skating ability was elite but his speed was well below average. I think he looks legitimately slow through the entire video. Maybe you think differently. I guess it could still develop but when you're that good of a skater already, do you think there's that much room for improvement? A bad skater loses a lot of speed with bad technique but I don't think that's the case at all for ASP.
Pavels Dog
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Imo this guy just doesn’t understand european ice, or the fact that you can’t judge a player based on nitpicking a single random game.
I stopped watching when he was nitpicking how the gap was too large when ASP just skated from the other side of the rink to cover on his off-side.
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Yeah I don't see slow. Holl is slow. Just based off the vid I'd say average. I think the bigger ice leans itself more to playing angles and more zone coverage because playing man to man in the open would open up to many lanes to take advantage of.
I do lean more towards ASP becoming your top 4 PP anchor than say a Makar level player. He is quite small and I think will always be semi outmatched defensively at the NHL level. He's going to have issues on the boards. His smarts will make up for some of it, but I don't think he's the guy your are putting out for dzone faceoffs anyhow. But if you can put him on a 2nd pair or with a true defensive anchor guy I don't think it will be a problem.
He's also going to need to work a bit on shot selection 5 on 5 or we may be looking at a Walman special which is hammering the puck into guys shins and getting beat going back the other way. I think ASP is a smarter player than Walman though and will make that adjustment to make sure if he is shooting he's getting it on net or at least down low.
I do lean more towards ASP becoming your top 4 PP anchor than say a Makar level player. He is quite small and I think will always be semi outmatched defensively at the NHL level. He's going to have issues on the boards. His smarts will make up for some of it, but I don't think he's the guy your are putting out for dzone faceoffs anyhow. But if you can put him on a 2nd pair or with a true defensive anchor guy I don't think it will be a problem.
He's also going to need to work a bit on shot selection 5 on 5 or we may be looking at a Walman special which is hammering the puck into guys shins and getting beat going back the other way. I think ASP is a smarter player than Walman though and will make that adjustment to make sure if he is shooting he's getting it on net or at least down low.
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Realgud
Not good enough for SKA
Certainly. Everyone will have their opinion. I think it's very good but certainly not perfect. There are some nitpicky stuff that I'm not sure why he'd even mention and comes off as overly negative. I don't think the game he has chosen shows a lot of ASP's real strengths like shooting and deception (just a bit in this game). Like others have mentioned, I think he should have touched on the differences between small and big ice.
Frk It
Mo Seider Less Problems
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Yeah, just not personally a fan of the guy. I watched him try to find holes in Owen Power's game for a year that did not exist. I watched him use a random shift to try to quantify Rossi's skating. I think he does some goofy stuff and I don't agree with him too often. But to each their own. I think he does put a lot of time into it and I can understand others enjoying his content.
As far as ASP's skating I would call it good. I think it is definitely good enough at his size and I am not worried about it.
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