Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics)

[tigervixxxen]

I can confirm it though.

Any more details you can share? Is he full time, consulting? Focusing on special teams? This is a new area for us

 

[Avs_19]

No idea who that is or what he brings. MHH says they're bringing in someone else as well.

 

[RockLobster]

No idea who that is or what he brings. MHH says they're bringing in someone else as well.

I'm pretty sure they have brought someone else in, but the name isn't publicized yet...

 

[garret9]

Any more details you can share? Is he full time, consulting? Focusing on special teams? This is a new area for us

What I can tell you is last year you had someone, who was a consultant only.
They wanted a fulltime position, did a hiring process, and then chose Arik through the process.

That's what I do know.

 

[garret9]

No idea who that is or what he brings. MHH says they're bringing in someone else as well.

He had his own website: http://www.nhlspecialteams.com/

But also did a lot of stuff on Hockey Graphs before then: https://hockey-graphs.com/author/arikparnass/

 

[Avs_19]

He had his own website: http://www.nhlspecialteams.com/

But also did a lot of stuff on Hockey Graphs before then: https://hockey-graphs.com/author/arikparnass/

Thanks. I'll have to check that out.

 

[tigervixxxen]

What I can tell you is last year you had someone, who was a consultant only.
They wanted a fulltime position, did a hiring process, and then chose Arik through the process.

That's what I do know.

Thanks for the info

 

[RockLobster]

And here is the name I had long heard they'd nabbed:

Earlier today, BSN Denver confirmed through various sources the organization has hired both Arik Parnass and Zac Urback.

http://bsndenver.com/avalanche-embrace-new-wave-with-latest-front-office-hire/

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

Is that the same fake insider, 19 yearol dumbass, Zac Urback?

 

[henchman21]

Yep... older now.

 

[Avs_19]

And here is the name I had long heard they'd nabbed:



http://bsndenver.com/avalanche-embrace-new-wave-with-latest-front-office-hire/

I used to follow this guy on twitter. IIRC, he wasn't a fan of Beauchemin's usage and used to pump up Redmond quite a bit. Had to stop following because of the latter.

Hopefully they can both add something positive to the organization.

 

[madman]

Yep... older now.

Go on...

what's the backstory to the new hire?

 

[RockLobster]

Is that the same fake insider, 19 yearol dumbass, Zac Urback?

Wait...what's the story here?

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

I Just googled his name. One of the first things to come up is some blog from 2012 about exposing fake Twitter insiders called "exposing dumb****s" . Apparently he was one.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I Just googled his name. One of the first things to come up is some blog from 2012 about exposing fake Twitter insiders called "exposing dumb****s" . Apparently he was one.

Awesome. Now a bunch of people on here think they have a career in hockey.

 

[ArWKo]

That blog has a single sentence about a Twitter account that was supposedly run by Urback as a "fake insider" when he was 17. If everyone were judged for their job based on stuff they did when they were 17 then I don't think there'd be many qualified people for anything out there. I'll tale the fact that he was last working for the Steelheads in the OHL with a lot more water than something he may have done as a 17 year old and I think to judge someone based on something like that is pretty silly unless there's anything else to suggest that they are still the same person today as they were at 17.

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

Nobody is judging him.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I'm not the biggest fan of his DEV model but maybe with the Avs supplying him real stats he can help them. Urback is the one who takes prospect stats and projects them to pro success. It's basically takes primary points, sort by age.

 

[henchman21]

Go on...

what's the backstory to the new hire?

I won't say a thing about him.

 

[ArWKo]

Nobody is judging him.

Calling him a dumbass and a fake insider sounded a little judgey to me the way it was presented but I guess that could just be how I read it before it was given any context. Either way that info seems pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things for reasons I gave above.

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

That's what the blog called him. I just asked if it was the same guy (was genuinely curious if it was the same guy due to his age).

 

[ArWKo]

That's what the blog called him. I just asked if it was the same guy (was genuinely curious if it was the same guy due to his age).

Yeah I see that now, just the first post was really no context and the context you were referencing was pretty obscure in that I don't think many people would be familiar with that particular blog with like 3 posts ever, although at least one person knew about it but still seems a little esoteric to me.

 

[Avs_19]

I'm not the biggest fan of his DEV model but maybe with the Avs supplying him real stats he can help them. Urback is the one who takes prospect stats and projects them to pro success. It's basically takes primary points, sort by age.

Any data or examples of his past projections?

 

[tigervixxxen]

Any data or examples of his past projections?

http://www.prospect-stats.com/DEV/default.html

It doesn't work on my iPad so can't really dig through it right now. I know Gauthier was like the second best forward projected because nearly all his points are primary. it's an interesting point about looking at prospect points as well as their performance by age (as their age in their draft year can make a big difference) but that's one example of the limitations. Plus I think it skews very heavily to offensive type D. But I recognize trying to analyze prospects is a good thing.

 

[badtakemachine]

Arik Parnass is one of the best bloggers I've seen. No idea who the other guy is, though.