Prospect Info: Avs draft F Calum Ritchie (2023 #27 overall)

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IF there is a snowballs (not the drink, dummy) chance in today's lighthouse gas society, then WHICH players do we put around him for US to use him as a part of the best playoffs team we can assemble.
 
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IF there is a snowballs (not the drink, dummy) chance in today's lighthouse gas society, then WHICH players do we put around him for US to use him as a part of the best playoffs team we can assemble.
He would.have to be signed 1st
 

Tommy Shelby

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Love that Cogs reached out to the kid personally. Easily one of my favourite Avs.

Sounds like Ritchie knows he can't just get by on talent alone, and is willing to put in the work to improve everywhere. The way he talks, he's going to be one of Jared's favourites as soon as he hits the ice.

Feeling a lot more optimistic of the pick these days
 

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Love that Cogs reached out to the kid personally. Easily one of my favourite Avs.

Sounds like Ritchie knows he can't just get by on talent alone, and is willing to put in the work to improve everywhere. The way he talks, he's going to be one of Jared's favourites as soon as he hits the ice.

Feeling a lot more optimistic of the pick these days
Cogs is absolute proof that you don't need a letter on your chest to be a leader.

From his ability to speak about how tough closing out a series can be and the need to acknowledge the pressure but then focus on the task at hand, to his instincts to reach out to new players and welcome them to the league and the team.

Players like Cogs and even Ryan freaking Johansen have really stepped in and filled those "soft-skills" aspects of leadership normally associated with Captains. Where I think Gabe's missed the most is the on-ice leadership. He is a rare breed in that he possesses both the "soft-skills" of leadership as well as the "hard-skills" which I think of as the ability to change the outcome or tide of games. He leads both on and off the ice.

The more I read about Calum though, the more I really hope we get to see what he brings to the table. I really want the Avs to keep this kid as I feel there is more here than what we had with Jost and Newhook. He has the skillset to be a 2C, but more importantly I believe in his ability to apply his skillset at the NHL level and feel like he has a better chance than those two of panning out. It's his even strength production that has me feeling this way.
 

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They would be braindead to move him for a rental. Only a much needed long-term piece would be acceptable and that probably isn't even on the table for Ritchie.

Yeah at this point i think you have to keep him if it's not for a legit long term mid 20's 2C solution.

And even though he's far from NHL proven, the benefit of potentially having Ritchie play well in a 2C role early in his career on a cheap ELC with the Avs cap issue, there's a solid argument that a stop gap solution 2C might be better than a more expensive long term solution that costs a lot of assets and cap space.

That cheap ELC would be a huge much needed benefit for this team for a few years.
 

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Id trade Ritchie now if it meant getting a competent 2C. He might very well become a great player, but the Avs are in win-now mode. Dont have time to waste.
 

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Id trade Ritchie now if it meant getting a competent 2C. He might very well become a great player, but the Avs are in win-now mode. Dont have time to waste.
I would not unless the player we get is a player that solves the position for the next 5 years at least (a guy like JEE).

If we traded Ritchie for a guy like Brock Nelson it would help us now but then Brock is going to be 34 at the end of his contract in the summer of 2025. Then we'd be looking at a hole at #2C potentially again.

Otherwise, the Avs still have the assets to get a good #2C without giving up their best prospect. They have all their 1st round picks for 24,25 & 26 plus some solid prospects like Gulayeyev & Behrens not to mention guys like Sammy G or Byram. All of which to me, is more palatable then trading away a guy like Ritchie that is trending the way he is.
 

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Craig Button wannabe Bednar. Looks wise.

Id trade Ritchie now if it meant getting a competent 2C. He might very well become a great player, but the Avs are in win-now mode. Dont have time to waste.

It's not just about competency but term and salary. We need to find them all together. Very tough find. This guy should be near untouchable for us because his potential low salary and high potential.

If Ritchie can fill for two years the #2 center role with cheap salary, that's a massive for us.
 

henchman21

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If Ritchie can fill for two years the #2 center role with cheap salary, that's a massive for us.

That's also a massive set of expectations.

The recent success story is Wyatt Johnston. His +1 was pure OHL domination (significantly above Ritchie's level). His +2 was a quasi 3C role where Benn took a lot of center duties. His +3 this year he's solidly 3C when playing there, but getting some time in the top 6 at wing. It is likely his +4 (and final year of ELC) where he settles in as the 2C.

The other bigger skilled center that everyone hates me mentioning... but compares is Dylan Strome. Drafted in 2015 and dominated the OHL in his +1. Got a tryout in his +2 and didn't have it, so went back and dominated in the OHL. His +3 he mostly spent in the AHL. HIs +4 Arizona gave up a bit on him and he went to Chicago. Played 2C on a bad team, but produced and he's hovered at a similar level since.

If things go very well, we are looking at his +3 where he may be close to the level needed... but really +4 is the year he's really projected for that role. MacK, Nuke, and Lehky will be 31. Landy 34. Toews 33. Mikko 30 (if he's here). That's beyond the typical window.

IMO if Ritchie can get a guy that solve this and next season, he's well worth including in the deal. If you get 3 or 4, it is a no brainer.
 

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That's also a massive set of expectations.

The recent success story is Wyatt Johnston. His +1 was pure OHL domination (significantly above Ritchie's level). His +2 was a quasi 3C role where Benn took a lot of center duties. His +3 this year he's solidly 3C when playing there, but getting some time in the top 6 at wing. It is likely his +4 (and final year of ELC) where he settles in as the 2C.

The other bigger skilled center that everyone hates me mentioning... but compares is Dylan Strome. Drafted in 2015 and dominated the OHL in his +1. Got a tryout in his +2 and didn't have it, so went back and dominated in the OHL. His +3 he mostly spent in the AHL. HIs +4 Arizona gave up a bit on him and he went to Chicago. Played 2C on a bad team, but produced and he's hovered at a similar level since.

If things go very well, we are looking at his +3 where he may be close to the level needed... but really +4 is the year he's really projected for that role. MacK, Nuke, and Lehky will be 31. Landy 34. Toews 33. Mikko 30 (if he's here). That's beyond the typical window.

IMO if Ritchie can get a guy that solve this and next season, he's well worth including in the deal. If you get 3 or 4, it is a no brainer.
Hard no on a two year "solution" at center in a trade for Ritchie. Chances are a player with only a two year window is older and won't provide enough of what they need anyway. They need Kadri (2021) level or higher to be a significant enough upgrade over what they have to justify a trade.
 
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henchman21

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Hard no on a two year "solution" at center in a trade for Ritchie. Chances are a player with only a two year window is older and won't provide enough of what they need anyway. They need Kadri (2021) level or higher to be a significant enough upgrade over what they have to justify a trade.

Two years is the most reasonable shots at a Cup before we enter Pittsburgh territory. The Avs need to work on the Cup now and next couple season more than anything else. This core at 33-37 isn't going to be contenders, with or without Ritchie.
 

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