Auston Matthews Discussion Thread

[hoglund]

If he continues this he'll be a shoe in for the Hart trophy.

 

[RogerR]

He checks all the boxes now.
Using his size more to bump players of the puck, elite puck stealer, extremely agile for his size, low 50s faceoff percentage, no McDavid speed-wise but he can fly when he sees a lane, stickhandle in a phone booth, incredible vision, oh and that shot.

Eh he's 23. Hitting his true prime now. This was always coming.

 

[zeke]

Since Matthews Entered the League

Even Strength (minimum 1000 minutes played)

Asterisk = used as a full time #1C

Goals per 60min

1. Matthews* 1.57
2. Ovechkin 1.28
3. Kucherov 1.25
4. Marchand 1.23
5. Pastrnak 1.23

Primary Points Per 60min

1. McDavid* 2.41
2. Stamkos 2.32
3. Matthews* 2.28
4. Malkin 2.26
5. Kucherov 2.22

Points per 60min

1. McDavid* 3.05
2. Kucherov 2.97
3. Stamkos 2.89
4. Marchand 2.79
5. Malkin 2.79
6. Panarin 2.68
7. Matthews* 2.62
8. Draisaitl 2.61
9. Pastrnak 2.58
10. Kane 2.56

Power play (min 500min)

Goals per 60min

1. Pastrnak 3.85
2. Stamkos 3.62
3. Zibanejad 3.28
4. Matthews* 3.23
5. Laine 3.11

Primary points per 60min

1. Pastrnak 6.06
2. Stamkos 5.94
3. Kucherov 5.62
4. Wheeler 5.30
5. Draisaitl 5.26
6. McDavid* 5.14
7. Matthews* 5.03
8. Marner 4.83
9. Crosby* 4.78
10. Hall 4.76

Points per 60min

1. Kucherov 7.89
2. Pastrnak 7.77
3. Stamkos 7.46
4. McDavid* 7.40
5. Marner 7.25
14. Matthews* 6.45

Of course, Auston is not only the youngest guy on those lists but the only one whose rookie year is included.

If we start from his 2nd year, 17-18, the stats look like this:

Even Strength

Goals per 60min

1. Matthews* 1.59
2. Ovechkin 1.44
3. Kucherov 1.34
4. Gallagher 1.33
5. Pastrnak 1.27

Primary Points Per 60min

1. McDavid* 2.41
2. Matthews* 2.37
3. Kucherov 2.34
4. Stamkos 2.27
5. Pastrnak 2.27

Points per 60min

1. Kucherov 3.15
2. McDavid* 3.08
3. Marchand 2.89
4. Stamkos 2.86
5. Panarin 2.83
6. Matthews* 2.76


Power Play

Goals per 60min

1. Pastrnak 4.08
2. Stamkos 3.65
3. Zibanejad 3.56
4. Matthews* 3.42
5. Laine 3.28

Primary points per 60min

1. Pastrnak 6.31
2. Stamkos 5.90
3. Wheeler 5.72
4. McDavid* 5.65
5. Kucherov 5.53
6. Draisaitl 5.17
7. Hall 5.13
8. Matthews* 5.03
9. Kessel 5.00
10. Marner 4.99

Points per 60min

1. Kucherov 8.03
2. Pastrnak 7.91
3. McDavid* 7.71
4. Stamkos 7.45
5. Marner 7.44
15. Matthews* 6.42



Note that there's only 2 full time #1Cs appear on near all these lists here.

And ill let you guys decide which one is better defensively.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

 

[34]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

Don’t take the Main board to seriously. Mostly Oiler and Canucks fans who hate Toronto .

 

[ShaneFalco]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

 

[LeafsNation75]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

That would mean giving a Maple Leafs player credit and admitting Matthews is a very good player, so I'm not surprised.

 

[Gabriel426]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

Well even if McDavid was drafted by the Leafs and still puts up his current numbers. The main board will still say he is not a top 5 C with stuff like he can’t play 200 ft game like Sid, Bergeron, ROR, Malkin and Toews.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Well even if McDavid was drafted by the Leafs and still puts up his current numbers. The main board will still say he is not a top 5 C with stuff like he can’t play 200 ft game like Sid, Bergeron, ROR, Malkin and Toews.

Even if Matthews was to win the Hart Trophy instead of McDavid I'm sure the Leafs haters on the main board would say how it was the Toronto writers who all voted for Matthews, because there will always try to find an asterisk regarding Matthews.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Well even if McDavid was drafted by the Leafs and still puts up his current numbers. The main board will still say he is not a top 5 C with stuff like he can’t play 200 ft game like Sid, Bergeron, ROR, Malkin and Toews.

And Matthews

 

[Warden of the North]

Hes so good. We're so lucky to have him

 

[Gabriel426]

And Matthews

I was assuming Matthews will also be a Leafs, lol.

 

[RogerR]

Even if Matthews was to win the Hart Trophy instead of McDavid I'm sure the Leafs haters on the main board would say how it was the Toronto writers who all voted for Matthews, because there will always try to find an asterisk regarding Matthews.

That argument is funny given Toronto never really wins major awards.

 

[7even]

hard to believe Matthews isn't even a consensus top 5 center on the mainboards. not their finest moment

Everyone's a hypocrite. It's unremarkable.

 

[Confucius]

Don’t take the Main board to seriously. Mostly Oiler and Canucks fans who hate Toronto .

Mainboards think Benning is a better GM than Dubas. That should tell all what the value of their opinion is.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Thi is the closest he's been to earning his contract. But still nowhere near.

He demanded McDavid money when term is included, so I expect McDavid numbers, NO excuses. McDavid has 12 more points than him. So nowhere close really.

 

[Advanced stats]

Thi is the closest he's been to earning his contract. But still nowhere near.

He demanded McDavid money when term is included, so I expect McDavid numbers, NO excuses. McDavid has 12 more points than him. So nowhere close really.

You're an absolute disgraced embarrassment.

Matthews is a Top 5 player and absolutely worth every penny.

 

[Leafs14]

Thi is the closest he's been to earning his contract. But still nowhere near.

He demanded McDavid money when term is included, so I expect McDavid numbers, NO excuses. McDavid has 12 more points than him. So nowhere close really.

Are you seriously still complaining about his contract. You're absolutely robbing yourself of the joy of watching the Leafs having a superstar center who could win the rocket trophy year and year out while playing a complete 200-foot game.

 

[Confucius]

You're an absolute disgraced embarrassment.

Matthews is a Top 5 player and absolutely worth every penny.

2nd most goals over the last 5 years, only behind Ovechkin

 

[34]

Mainboards think Benning is a better GM than Dubas. That should tell all what the value of their opinion is.

Oh I know. There are some real characters on that main board.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Thi is the closest he's been to earning his contract. But still nowhere near.

He demanded McDavid money when term is included, so I expect McDavid numbers, NO excuses. McDavid has 12 more points than him. So nowhere close really.

Matthews was 3rd in goal scored last year with 47 and he was going to score 50+ goals if all 82 games were played.

It was also the second time in his career he's finished top 3 in goals scored because in his rookie season he finished T-2 with 40 goals.

 

[Judas Tavares]

Thi is the closest he's been to earning his contract. But still nowhere near.

He demanded McDavid money when term is included, so I expect McDavid numbers, NO excuses. McDavid has 12 more points than him. So nowhere close really.

Your inability to enjoy something nice is unprecedented.

 

[LeafsNation75]

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

He loved Tom Brady - enough for me

 

[kevsh]

Mainboards think Benning is a better GM than Dubas. That should tell all what the value of their opinion is.

To be fair plenty of those here on the Leafs board thought that every GM in the league was better than Dubas ... That is, until the Leafs went 9-2-1 to start the season. It seems those guys aren't around here much now but they'll resurface the first 2-game losing streak.