News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[JKG33]

Some members liked Dubas. Some support the GM regardless, but no one worshipped Dubas. I liked Dubas. Now he is irrelevant in my mind as he is no longer a Leaf. The fact remains that no one really has any idea what Matthews is asking for. Your guess is just as good and as valid as Kipper's.

Lmao at the bolded

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lmao at the bolded

OK. You bolded it. It doesn't make any difference what you laugh about. The facts remain the same. It is like the laugh emotions. They are so randomly distributed that they lack all meaning.

 

[Arzak]

Dude you gotta wonder how Carolina even finishes with more points than Toronto every year.

Better offense? Toronto of course
Better defense? Toronto of course
Nylander who is Toronto's 4th-6th best player based on opinion is "very comparable" to Carolina's best player Aho.

I guess the goaltending and luck just favors Carolina every year. Just stunning how Toronto always comes out on the wrong end of this.

From the way you paint every comparison between these two teams it's like they're not even comparable teams. Either that or your bizarre stats and pseudo logic just don't line up with reality at all.

We have expected above replacement average per 60 crap for each player showing how great they are.

This time it's blocked shots that matter the most and should get you a proper raise.

 

[Hellcat]

If it was any less they would probably have a signed deal be now but it could be even more

Possible Matty has no desire to sign one right now? Possible there is no official offer from the team? Possible there is a deal in place but waiting on Nylander to sign? Absence of one action is not necessarily a confirmation of another action.

 

[ACC1224]

Was thinking this would get done while he was in town for Marners wedding. Could we expect an announcement any day now?

 

[geo25]

Possible Matty has no desire to sign one right now? Possible there is no official offer from the team? Possible there is a deal in place but waiting on Nylander to sign? Absence of one action is not necessarily a confirmation of another action.

One thing is concerning though....the longer this drags on the greater the odds he leaves town....

 

[Metroid]

Was thinking this would get done while he was in town for Marners wedding. Could we expect an announcement any day now?

Get Tre to show up in the morning while they still drunk/hung over and get em to sign a nice deal hahaja

 

[Sypher04]

Kypreos thinks it is 13.5.

In fairness, Kypreos is a moron with questionable sources at best

 

[Nineteen67]

Kypreos thinks it is 13.5.

That’s been around for a bit, Kypreos is usually pretty close on these things.

If Matthews is Toronto this weekend, it would make sense that he signs ann extension and it’s announced this week.

If not, it could be a red flag.

 

[Sypher04]

That’s been around for a bit, Kypreos is usually pretty close on these things.

If Matthews is Toronto this weekend, it would make sense that he signs ann extension and it’s announced this week.

If not, it could be a red flag.

It could happen, not sure I see it being a red flag though if it doesn’t.

 

[ACC1224]

It could happen, not sure I see it being a red flag though if it doesn’t.

Yeah probably not but it would be nice to hear that he and the GM met.
Do we know if Treliving is in town?

 

[Sypher04]

Yeah probably not but it would be nice to hear that he and the GM met.
Do we know if Treliving is in town?

Good question, I don’t know if he is or not

 

[Nineteen67]

Yeah probably not but it would be nice to hear that he and the GM met.
Do we know if Treliving is in town?

We really dont know anything, other than they met in AZ.

 

[leafan11]

In fairness, Kypreos is a moron with questionable sources at best

I would say since he’s started the Kyper and Bourne show he’s actually broken a lot of news and dropped a lot of hints that came out to be true.

 

[Sypher04]

I would say since he’s started the Kyper and Bourne show he’s actually broken a lot of news and dropped a lot of hints that came out to be true.

Has he though? Or has he merely piggybacked on rumours that were already out there.

Just my opinion, so you can value as you see fit, but I don’t believe for a second that Kypreos is connected to anyone who would have insight into the private negotiations between Matthews and the Leafs.

I would wager the number of people who have any idea what’s actually happening behind closed doors between the two, that are not either Matthews’ family, Leafs staff, or working for the agency representing Auston is near zero. But we have a media here that overvalues itself and always needs to have a report, so we get a lot of speculation passed on as pseudo reporting

 

[centipede2233]

if rumours are to be true, matthews wants 3 yrs, and tre wants 5+ years. Apparently 13.5 mil is already agreed upon. It’s the term that’s being negotiated now. i predict they meet in the middle at 4 yrs. Not saying tre should give in but I think Matthews gets his way at a 3/4 yr extension

 

[Sypher04]

if rumours are to be true, matthews wants 3 yrs, and tre wants 5+ years. Apparently 13.5 mil is already agreed upon. It’s the term that’s being negotiated now. i predict they meet in the middle at 4 yrs. Not saying tre should give in but I think Matthews gets his way at a 3/4 yr extension

I’ve seen that talked about, and no shocker it’s from Kypreos, as it literally makes no sense. If they are still negotiating the term there is basically no chance at all they’ve agreed on AAV as the two are directly tied together.

 

[Bluebear]

If Matthews decided to go wait and see what he could get as a UFA, but had a season similar to last, maybe even a few points or goals less, what would he get offered?

Seems to me that unless he is super confident in his ability to regain his form, he might be taking a risk holding off his signing if he wants max$$$$

 

[rocketman588]

The only reason people get tricked into thinking Aho is a better producer is because he picks up a bunch of empty net goals and points.
Nylander actually outpaced Aho in 3 of the past 4 years in terms of producing against a goalie - with the biggest lead of them all in the most recent season.
And nobody is dismissing Aho's PKing or comparative defense (though both pale in comparison to Marner). That is just contrasted with Nylander being a better producer at 5v5 and on the PP, making them relatively comparable overall. Not really the same as the Marner vs. Rantanen example where Rantanen isn't better at anything.

The funny thing is, if this was reversed, you'd be out here talking about how trying to pay somebody coming off a 67 point season the same as somebody coming off an 87 point season was absurd and an unprecedented dramatic overpayment. Suddenly the most recent season raw point total isn't all that matters.

Aho had 3 empty net goals last season willy had 2.

The year before that he had 4 willy had one. He gets soooo many goals empty net. He also plays center which has always gotten paid more on the open market then being on the wing.

Glad to see you're just making shit up again. Dubas isn't here anymore we get it you love him and everything he did was incredible if he only wasn't foiled by evil Shanny/Lou/Babs/the players that he was in charge of bringing in/ the coach who he hired we would have won the last 5 cups

 

[pcruz]

Not sure if you guys have been reading these recently, but someone has compiled a list of the top 40 players this past season for shooting and passing.

Whoever JfreshHockey is...

Turns out, Maythews, Marner, Nylander, and Tavares are 4 of the best even strength players at what we want them to do: create goals.

And despite having Avery down season, Matthews finishes 1st in the shooting list and 4th in combination shooting and passing list.....

Nylander, after playing the year with Matthews for the most part, shoots up the ranking as well.

Must be a coincidence that Nylander becomes a much better offensive player riding shot gun with 34 for a year after a couple of good, but not great seasons playing with JT.

I don't know who JFreshHockey, or UnpopularOpinionJake are (maybe same person), or what AllThreeZones is.

Just wanted to add to the data about Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Tavares.

The 4 of them get a ton of shit from this idiot fanbase, but they have generally done what should have been expected of them over the last 7 seasons.

It's the entirety of the supporting cast that has shit the bed too much and too often (especially the goaltending and defenders 3-8).

 

[rocketman588]

Dude you gotta wonder how Carolina even finishes with more points than Toronto every year.

Better offense? Toronto of course
Better defense? Toronto of course
Nylander who is Toronto's 4th-6th best player based on opinion is "very comparable" to Carolina's best player Aho.

I guess the goaltending and luck just favors Carolina every year. Just stunning how Toronto always comes out on the wrong end of this.

From the way you paint every comparison between these two teams it's like they're not even comparable teams. Either that or your bizarre stats and pseudo logic just don't line up with reality at all.

Don't forget that good goaltending is also luck

They only win because of all the empty net goals.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Aho had 3 empty net goals last season willy had 2.
The year before that he had 4 willy had one. He gets soooo many goals empty net.

Aho had 3 goals and 5 points into an empty net this past season. That's the lowest amount he's gotten in a season in the past 5 years, and yet it's still more than Nylander (2 goals, 3 points) had in Nylander's career high season in empty net goals and points. Over their careers, Nylander has gotten 5 goals and 7 points into an empty net. Aho has 26 goals and 41 points into an empty net. It's actually a relatively significant proportion of Aho's overall goal and point production.

He also plays center which has always gotten paid more on the open market then being on the wing.

That's largely a myth that gets perpetuated because centers just tend to be better players. If there is any impact, it's historically minimal and inconsistent.
Wingers actually heavily populate the history of high-end contracts.

 

[Racer88]

Not sure if you guys have been reading these recently, but someone has compiled a list of the top 40 players this past season for shooting and passing.

Whoever JfreshHockey is...

Turns out, Maythews, Marner, Nylander, and Tavares are 4 of the best even strength players at what we want them to do: create goals.

And despite having Avery down season, Matthews finishes 1st in the shooting list and 4th in combination shooting and passing list.....

Nylander, after playing the year with Matthews for the most part, shoots up the ranking as well.

Must be a coincidence that Nylander becomes a much better offensive player riding shot gun with 34 for a year after a couple of good, but not great seasons playing with JT.


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I don't know who JFreshHockey, or UnpopularOpinionJake are (maybe same person), or what AllThreeZones is.

Just wanted to add to the data about Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Tavares.

The 4 of them get a ton of shit from this idiot fanbase, but they have generally done what should have been expected of them over the last 7 seasons.

It's the entirety of the supporting cast that has shit the bed too much and too often (especially the goaltending and defenders 3-8).

Do these numbers include the playoff?

 

[HolyCrap]

OK. You bolded it. It doesn't make any difference what you laugh about. The facts remain the same. It is like the laugh emotions. They are so randomly distributed that they lack all meaning.

You’re wrong. There were several fans who adored Dubas. They still do and and still post here about him. They aren’t even leaf’s fans but Dubas fans. It’s weird and they obviously have an agenda.

 

[Stephen]

Aho had 3 empty net goals last season willy had 2.

The year before that he had 4 willy had one. He gets soooo many goals empty net. He also plays center which has always gotten paid more on the open market then being on the wing.

Glad to see you're just making shit up again. Dubas isn't here anymore we get it you love him and everything he did was incredible if he only wasn't foiled by evil Shanny/Lou/Babs/the players that he was in charge of bringing in/ the coach who he hired we would have won the last 5 cups

I don't even understand why some people are choosing to put down empty net goals to advance a pointless ranking of two very similar players...

To have an empty net situation, your team is likely holding a 1 to 2 goal lead. You are trusted to defend a 6 on 5 situation, and if you're scoring an EN chances are you're walking away shortly win a win.

Auston Matthews himself scored 4 EN goals in his 60 goal year. What's the problem again?