News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[ACC1224]

Marner should have gotten 9-9.5 last deal and 10.5-11 on his next deal but we all know what happened there.

Yep, Dubas happened.

 

[IPS]

13.5 being looked at as a discount is f***ing hilarious. And the Leafs have to fight for a 5th year on that number? Lmao cant make this shit up

It's a disgrace. Being a Leaf means nothing anymore - this franchise has been reduced to an ATM machine for greedy shits who don't even care in the playoffs.

Have never found this team harder to cheer for.

Are you saying Marner should earn less than Aho?

What do you think should be the salary difference between the two?

 

[Jozay]

Mack's contract is a huge discount according to him though, you have to remember he told the media that, so in reality, he is probably closer to 15 million if he took full value........ 13.5 for Matthews seems fair now

Comparing Matthews' upcoming contract to one that doesnt even exist is a craaazy

 

[notdoneyet]

I don’t know why everyone defends matthews at all cost. He is a selfish entitled pompous ass. He is not a team player. He has already made a 100 million dollars by playing a game. He has won nothing in his life that exemplifies a team game. Everything about him is to feed his own ego.

Every time you see pictures from team functions weddings etc. you always see the same players in every picture. You see tavares reilly marner but you never see matthews. You will only see him if its about him.

How he or the leafs can justify the supposed 13.5 at 4 years is beyond me. And some posters on here try to make you believe he is giving us a discount lol.

We will never win a cup with this guy. All about me me me.

Marner should have gotten 9-9.5 last deal and 10.5-11 on his next deal but we all know what happened there.

And matthews should have gotten 10-10.5 and 11-11.5 on this deal.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Comparing Matthews' upcoming contract to one that doesnt even exist is a craaazy

That’s the level of desperation certain posters have been reduced to to justify their ridiculous positions. I wonder if the they even read their own posts and realize how ludicrous they sound.

 

[tmlfan98]

More so it made me more pissed at the marner contract. His threshold should have been 9 or 9.5

I always believed that one of Dubas' biggest mistakes that barely gets talked about was when Marner asked for 9x8 the summer before he became an RFA but the Leafs didn't bite. Instead Dubas pulls a "if you have time use it" and Marner has his first 90 point season stapled to JT's wing the first year JT was in Toronto which sends his asking price through the roof.

 

[Stephen]

Let’s talk numbers on the ice. At $13.5 million per season what is the regular season floor in terms of production that is expected?

 

[IPS]

Let’s talk numbers on the ice. At $13.5 million per season what is the regular season floor in terms of production that is expected?

His MVP season is essentially his floor being paid an unprecedented amount on unprecedented term.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Let’s talk numbers on the ice. At $13.5 million per season what is the regular season floor in terms of production that is expected?

At least 50 goals/100 points on a consistent basis, and no drop off in the playoffs.

 

[ACC1224]

What do you think should be the salary difference between the two?

Few million or so. I believe Marner is a much better all around player.

I think Aho was over paid a bit.

 

[notbias]

Comparing Matthews' upcoming contract to one that doesnt even exist is a craaazy

It's almost like I am just poking fun at all the posters who think stars take discounts just because they want to win. No stars do.

 

[IPS]

It's almost like I am just poking fun at all the posters who think stars take discounts just because they want to win. No stars do.

We're you literally not just posting about how Mackinnon gave Colorado a huge discount?

 

[Stephen]

At least 50 goals/100 points on a consistent basis, and no drop off in the playoffs.

Yep. No more down seasons or saving it for the playoffs or wrist tape issues or talk of enhanced defensive game and shot blocking.

 

[IPS]

Few million or so. I believe Marner is a much better all around player.

I think Aho was over paid a bit.

So about $12.75M is about what Marner should be at for his next contract and it's fair? Sincerely disagree with that.

 

[Sypher04]

I don’t know why everyone defends matthews at all cost. He is a selfish entitled pompous ass. He is not a team player. He has already made a 100 million dollars by playing a game. He has won nothing in his life that exemplifies a team game. Everything about him is to feed his own ego.

Lmao, what thread have you been reading?

I always believed that one of Dubas' biggest mistakes that barely gets talked about was when Marner asked for 9x8 the summer before he became an RFA but the Leafs didn't bite. Instead Dubas pulls a "if you have time use it" and Marner has his first 90 point season stapled to JT's wing the first year JT was in Toronto which sends his asking price through the roof.

It’s not brought up a lot because it’s not known to be factual. At the same time that was out there, conflicting reports also existed stating he wanted to play out his ELC with Tavares before signing.

Let’s talk numbers on the ice. At $13.5 million per season what is the regular season floor in terms of production that is expected?

I’d say, assuming he’s healthy, ~100 points should be expected

 

[Sypher04]

And matthews should have gotten 10-10.5 and 11-11.5 on this deal.

It was generally accepted his deal should fall between Eichel and McDavid which is exactly what happened.

Eichel - 13.33%
Matthews - 14.64%
McDavid - 16.67%

 

[IPS]

It was generally accepted his deal should fall between Eichel and McDavid which is exactly what happened.

Eichel - 13.33%
Matthews - 14.64%
McDavid - 16.67%

*****while conveniently ignoring term.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Someone needs to explain to me why Matthews is worth 4m more in cap and 3-4 years less than Aho.

 

[Sypher04]

*****while conveniently ignoring term.

Not ignoring term really at all. Play the actual numbers out and you’d see that Matthews’ rate of production over his ELC put him far far closer to McDavid than Eichel. He only got 14.64 because he took 5 years. 8 years would have been higher and justified.

 

[Bomber0104]

*****while conveniently ignoring term.

Imagine in 2023 still trying to defend that monstrosity of a contract Dubas cooked up with Matthews agent

There's about 4 of them left on this entire forum.

 

[Stephen]

Imagine in 2023 still trying to defend that monstrosity of a contract Dubas cooked up with Matthews agent

There's about 4 of them left on this entire forum.

Matthews current, expiring contract would be entirely suitable fitting for a player with his resume. That’s how future proof it was.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Let’s talk numbers on the ice. At $13.5 million per season what is the regular season floor in terms of production that is expected?

I don't think there's any justifying it no matter how he performs. Just like his last contract, he's almost certainly going to live up to it and then some. But if he's going to continue to set the example of not making any allowances to help the team out, it's just going to create more headaches. He could easily do what pretty much every other star player has done rather than try to extract every possible dollar. Even if you're only talking about a million or two either way, it could go such a long way in establishing a more team-first culture

 

[Sypher04]

Imagine in 2023 still trying to defend that monstrosity of a contract Dubas cooked up with Matthews agent

There's about 4 of them left on this entire forum.

Not only was the contract, by the numbers, explainable and fair. Matthews also then lived up to it.

Dubas made a ton of mistakes, Matthews’ contract was not among them.

 

[IPS]

Not only was the contract, by the numbers, explainable and fair. Matthews also then lived up to it.

Holy f***ing hell you guys have some crazy low standards.

Looking back at Matthews' last 4 playoff runs - he has not lived up to that salary at all.

But I get it that you guys think playoffs don't count so keep doing what you do.

Not ignoring term really at all. Play the actual numbers out and you’d see that Matthews’ rate of production over his ELC put him far far closer to McDavid than Eichel. He only got 14.64 because he took 5 years. 8 years would have been higher and justified.

Yeah now is the part where we play the imaginary numbers game and bring up wildly unreliable stats like "Primary points per 60" and all that garbage. Goals are gonna count more than assists until it comes time to overpay Marner and the vicious cycle continues. Meanwhile in the land of actual points and goals winning actual games, Matthews has come close to McDavid like once in his entire career.

Sorry not interested.

 

[ACC1224]

So about $12.75M is about what Marner should be at for his next contract and it's fair? Sincerely disagree with that.

Never said any of it was fair.