News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[ORRFForever]

With A Federal Bankruptcy Court Ruling, MLB’s Days On Bally Sports Appear Numbered

After testimony before a bankruptcy court, and a judge’s ruling, the days of the MLB being broadcast by the Bally Sports networks appear numbered.

www.forbes.com

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/bally-sports-network-owner-files-for-bankruptcy-protection-1.6779185

Bally Sports Defaults On MLB Payments, Bankruptcy Court Orders 50% Payment

Bally Sports has defaulted on payments of 5 MLB teams, yet still is televising games. This led an emergency motion demanding payments.

www.forbes.com

Thanks!

Last question...

How would this affect the NHL?

 

[Stephen]

Thanks!

Last question...

How would this affect the NHL?

They hold the broadcast rights to 12 NHL teams. Aka almost 40% of the league.

Sinclair Broadcast Group is the entity behind Bally Sports, who currently holds the broadcasting rights for a dozen NHL teams - Los Angeles, Anaheim, Arizona, Dallas, St. Louis, Minnesota, Detroit, Columbus, Nashville, Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Florida.

BREAKING - NHL to Hold Impromptu Conference After Bally Sports Parent Skips 9-Figure Payment

NHL Board of Governors are holding an emergency conference over the bankruptcy to Bally Sports, which will affect TV rights for a dozen teams.

www.markerzone.com

 

[capfit9]

They hold the broadcast rights to 12 NHL teams. Aka almost 40% of the league.

BREAKING - NHL to Hold Impromptu Conference After Bally Sports Parent Skips 9-Figure Payment

NHL Board of Governors are holding an emergency conference over the bankruptcy to Bally Sports, which will affect TV rights for a dozen teams.

www.markerzone.com

extremely important info when it comes to affecting the salary cap long term

 

[ORRFForever]

They hold the broadcast rights to 12 NHL teams. Aka almost 40% of the league.

BREAKING - NHL to Hold Impromptu Conference After Bally Sports Parent Skips 9-Figure Payment

NHL Board of Governors are holding an emergency conference over the bankruptcy to Bally Sports, which will affect TV rights for a dozen teams.

www.markerzone.com

Wow. Not good.

Sportsnet has been cutting and cutting since the 3rd(?) year of their NHL deal. TSN just laughs realizing they were right not to open the vault for the NHL. Both will be smarter next time around.

To me, the Leafs are <bleeped> unless the Big 4 (Big 5) strike lightning in a bottle and somehow go on a Cup run.

 

[Trapper]

It’s not that difficult.
Do you want to be the number 1 Center on the Leafs long term?
An 8 year deal between 12.6 and 13 million make you the highest paid player in the league.
If you care about winning, Tavares will be off the books in 2 years and if the Cap goes up, he is locked in so we can take advantage of the rising cap to afford some extra quality help.
If not, take your 4 years somewhere else. Waive your clause and we will move you.

 

[Marshy]

It’s not that difficult.
Do you want to be the number 1 Center on the Leafs long term?
An 8 year deal between 12.6 and 13 million make you the highest paid player in the league.
If you care about winning, Tavares will be off the books in 2 years and if the Cap goes up, he is locked in so we can take advantage of the rising cap to afford some extra quality help.
If not, take your 4 years somewhere else. Waive your clause and we will move you.

That would reset the culture and set a great precedent for the future.

Unfortunately jersey sales take a hit so not an option for this front office.

 

[ORRFForever]

An 8 year deal between 12.6 and 13 million make you the highest paid player in the league.

Matthews will want more than that - he wants to be a Top paid players for years to come.

In Mathews defense, he sees MLSE printing money and he wants part of it. Too bad the Cap doesn't have some flexibility.

 

[Trapper]

Matthews will want more than that - he wants to be a Top paid players for years to come.

In Mathews defense, he sees MLSE printing money and he wants part of it. Too bad the Cap doesn't have some flexibility.

Unfortunately management has lost control of the franchise. Max dollar, short term and the few have taken over.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Unfortunately management has lost control of the franchise. Max dollar, short term and the few have taken over.

That's exactly the problem.

This isn't the NBA. A team controlled by the players will never win anything in hockey.

 

[capfit9]

That's exactly the problem.

This isn't the NBA. A team controlled by the players will never win anything in hockey.

precisely, for me if you don't have Matthews signed in ink by mid-august i'm asking him which teams he'd like to move to, as for Nylander, I think he's a goner which is the reason Treliving is hesitating to sign free agents because this organization might have to pivot hard.

 

[HockeyVirus]

If the number starts with 14 or more and is less than 8 years it is franchise crippling. It would take a complete rebuild to undo that mistake.

Even 13 x5 is pushing it but I get why it is happening with a higher cap.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Assuming Sportsnet and TSN say NO to giving the NHL everything they want for the Canadian package, I'm not sure what drives a huge increase in revenue.

The Leafs are playing with fire.

Yes, Tavares will be off the books in 2 years, but he is a PPG player and you don't find players like him cheap. Perhaps they think JT will give the Leafs a home town discount.

Right all reports is that Sportsnet has lost a ton of money on this deal. Why would either pay more than this current price if they are losing money?

 

[Apex Predator]

Does a team like the coyotes who are consistently losing money year after year affect the cap going up. If the team was relocated to another location that is making money does that help the salary cap?

 

[ORRFForever]

Right all reports is that Sportsnet has lost a ton of money on this deal. Why would either pay more than this current price if they are losing money?

Why even pay the current amount?

The dummies who struck the current deal are long gone so...

TSN and Sportsnet need to play hardball with the NHL - they're in business with each other and I'm sure they talk. Just low ball the NHL. Where is the NHL gonna go? The CBC, Global, CHCH? None of them can afford it.

TSN and Sportsnet control the market. Act accordingly.

Does a team like the coyotes who are consistently losing money year after year affect the cap going up. If the team was relocated to another location that is making money does that help the salary cap?

Yes and yes.

That's why the NHLPA has been pushing to have the team move to QC and other locations.

No one but Gary Bettman and the BOG wants the team in Arizona.

 

[Blanche Blanche]

Boston wouldn't be paying Matthews and Marner their current salaries either (never mind a substantial raise). I wish our GM would've had the balls to say no.

Dubas had his rookie years here… getting bent over by Marner and Matthews…

Now we hope treliving can have the balls to say F off to these guys if it isn’t team friendly.

I’d rather rebuild and retool properly take a few years to do it than Rush sign cap heavy Playoff ghost Matthews and undersized Marner massive contracts undeserved.

The irony of Nylander trade talks when he was the only leaf who showed up in Playoffs is Effing Tragic comedy as a Leafs fan.

Dubas should never be welcome in Toronto again.

 

[MCR74]

Dubas had his rookie years here… getting bent over by Marner and Matthews…

Now we hope treliving can have the balls to say F off to these guys if it isn’t team friendly.

I’d rather rebuild and retool properly take a few years to do it than Rush sign cap heavy Playoff ghost Matthews and undersized Marner massive contracts undeserved.

The irony of Nylander trade talks when he was the only leaf who showed up in Playoffs is Effing Tragic comedy as a Leafs fan.

Dubas should never be welcome in Toronto again.

On the bright side, Dubas just signed Jarry to a bad contract, so the tradition continues.

 

[capfit9]

Does a team like the coyotes who are consistently losing money year after year affect the cap going up. If the team was relocated to another location that is making money does that help the salary cap?

According to Bettman, Coyotes would increase their revenues playing in front of 5,000 people.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

In Mathews defense, he sees MLSE printing money and he wants part of it. Too bad the Cap doesn't have some flexibility.

But the extra money Matthews is fighting for is coming out of his TEAMMATES pockets, not mlse, as the leafs will pay to the cap ceiling regardless.

At what point is this greed? At what point is this immoral?

His and his family's lifestyle is not going to change one iota with him maximizing his career earnings by pulling these shenanigans. Someone who makes 240 mil in their carrer has the PRECISE SAME LIFESTYLE as someone who makes 200 mil in their career.

This is greed. This is ego. This is ugly. What is happening with Matthews is UGLY.

 

[Menzinger]

Assuming Sportsnet and TSN say NO to giving the NHL everything they want for the Canadian package, I'm not sure what drives a huge increase in revenue.

The Leafs are playing with fire.

Yes, Tavares will be off the books in 2 years, but he is a PPG player and you don't find players like him cheap. Perhaps they think JT will give the Leafs a home town discount.

Part of the immediate spike in cap that's expected to come is the players finally paying off the escrow.

The cap has risen steadily and consistently since it's formation, even during the 2008 financial crisis (minus one year of stagnant growth) until COVID hit gate revenue. I'm not so sure I'd expect things to suddenly stop that trend

 

[ORRFForever]

But the extra money Matthews is fighting for is coming out of his TEAMMATES pockets, not mlse, as the leafs will pay to the cap ceiling regardless.

At what point is this greed? At what point is this immoral?

His and his family's lifestyle is not going to change one iota with him maximizing his career earnings by pulling these shenanigans. Someone who makes 240 mil in their carrer has the PRECISE SAME LIFESTYLE as someone who makes 200 mil in their career.

This is greed. This is ego. This is ugly. What is happening with Matthews is UGLY.

Very true.

 

[ORRFForever]

Part of the immediate spike in cap that's expected to come is the players finally paying off the escrow.

The cap has risen steadily and consistently since it's formation, even during the 2008 financial crisis (minus one year of stagnant growth) until COVID hit gate revenue. I'm not so sure I'd expect things to suddenly stop that trend

Posters always mention Covid but the same thing was said 5 years ago when Matthews signed the first time.

I'll guess we'll see if the Cap jumps in a big way - time will tell.

 

[authentic]

Dubas had his rookie years here… getting bent over by Marner and Matthews…

Now we hope treliving can have the balls to say F off to these guys if it isn’t team friendly.

I’d rather rebuild and retool properly take a few years to do it than Rush sign cap heavy Playoff ghost Matthews and undersized Marner massive contracts undeserved.

The irony of Nylander trade talks when he was the only leaf who showed up in Playoffs is Effing Tragic comedy as a Leafs fan.

Dubas should never be welcome in Toronto again.

Where is this myth coming from that Nylander showed up in the playoffs and Matthews didn't? Nylander didn't even look that great until we were down 3-0 against Florida and it was a foregone conclusion we were eliminated anyway. That was also the game Matthews hurt his hand and his 12 game point streak in the playoffs came to an end. Did you even watch the Tampa series? He was our best player hands down. Nylander shows up for the last few games in a series we lost 4-1 and suddenly he was the only player who showed up. Rielly and to a lesser extent Tavares were also better and at the end of the day Marners stats were far better and he wasn't a minus player. Nylander was pathetic for most of the playoffs, especially defensively.

 

[Bloomberg]

Does Matthews have a full no movement clause now? If he does, what bargaining power do the Leafs have? If they can't agree on the AAV, then wouldn't Matthews just walk since the Leafs can't trade him?

 

[Squiffy]

Part of the immediate spike in cap that's expected to come is the players finally paying off the escrow.

The cap has risen steadily and consistently since it's formation, even during the 2008 financial crisis (minus one year of stagnant growth) until COVID hit gate revenue. I'm not so sure I'd expect things to suddenly stop that trend

Posters always mention Covid but the same thing was said 5 years ago when Matthews signed the first time.

I'll guess we'll see if the Cap jumps in a big way - time will tell.

A big cap jump is already baked in, anyone saying otherwise isn’t following it correctly, not meaning to direct this at you guys here.

The lag formula introduced in the MoU that takes over once COVID escrow is paid off (that will happen early next season, they almost made it this season according to NHL) dictates, in simple terms, that HRR two season prior will set the cap for a coming season. That means the HRR for the season that just finished (22-23) will set the cap for 24-25. Gary has suggested this year was “pushing 6 billion” in HRR. There are some sources suggesting 5.7 is about the right number.

All this adds up to at a minimum a normally max allowed by MoU 5% year to year cap increase to something between 87.5 and 88, unless they hit some triggering conditions where the league doesn’t actually pay the players 50% of HRR, which would allow an increase of up to 10%. That's not impossible to see either, bringing it in as high as 92 per team, albeit a less likely scenario.

Never even mind generationally high inflation driving HRR higher by default for the next couple cap calculations.

The cap is jumping big for at least the next couple seasons, guaranteed, the cap has artificially fallen behind the HRR formula because of the escrow deficit. The league knows it, the players know it, agents know it, teams know it, it’s a legit consideration for FA’s this year.

 

[ORRFForever]

A big cap jump is already baked in, anyone saying otherwise isn’t following it correctly, not meaning to direct this at you guys here.

The lag formula introduced in the MoU that takes over once COVID escrow is paid off (that will happen early next season, they almost made it this season according to NHL) dictates, in simple terms, that HRR two season prior will set the cap for a coming season. That means the HRR for the season that just finished (22-23) will set the cap for 24-25. Gary has suggested this year was “pushing 6 billion” in HRR. There are some sources suggesting 5.7 is about the right number.

All this adds up to at a minimum a normally max allowed by MoU 5% year to year cap increase to something between 87.5 and 88, unless they hit some triggering conditions where the league doesn’t actually pay the players 50% of HRR, which would allow an increase of up to 10%. That's not impossible to see either, bringing it in as high as 92 per team, albeit a less likely scenario.

Never even mind generationally high inflation driving HRR higher by default for the next couple cap calculations.

The cap is jumping big for at least the next couple seasons, guaranteed, the cap has artificially fallen behind the HRR formula because of the escrow deficit. The league knows it, the players know it, agents know it, teams know it, it’s a legit consideration for FA’s this year.

Fair enough and thanks!