News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[Subway Schenn]

I'm really hoping he signs for 8 years @ 13M or less but not getting my hopes up.

Every day I get a little bit more disillusioned about this team (particularly the core) - and a 4-5 year deal @ 13M+ would really be the icing on the cake

 

[thusk]

Just like that

Mcdavid signed at 16,7% of salary cap/ 8
Mackinnon 15,5^/ 8 ans
Kopitar 14%

Matthews at 14,3%

And people saying the fact dubas signed matthews only 5 season is trash... seriously for me its maybe the best thing who could happened to leafs...

if he would sign 8 year deal at the beggining he would ask more than his actual AAV taking in consideration he would be at his prime with higher salary cap... so maybe 12,3 so around15,1 % of salary cap

.yes maybe in next 3-4 season, he will more money but if leafs had a chance to convince matthews to sign a 13M/8 year this summer. His cap hit will already be at 14,9% of team cap hit and maybe after first 4 season it will be around 13,6 and maybe at the end will be around 12%

Its whats matter in those kind of contract, % of salary cap... its whats player/agent using for his negociation for NHL stars. Not the total of money but % of salary cap

So yes maybe 13,5M look like a lot but i give you an exemple... projection of cap hit ln 2025 is around 91-92 M... if Mcdavid resign about the same % of salary hit than his last contract...we will talk about a 15,2M contract and 13M would be the same % of salary cap than right now...

Right now 13M look like a lot but in 3-4 with everyone anticipating salary cap raising pretty fast...it will not be that much..so get a chance to resign matthews before salary cap make a huge jump... i think its just an amaizing chance

 

[Nineteen67]

Just like that

Mcdavid signed at 16,7% of salary cap/ 8
Mackinnon 15,5^/ 8 ans
Kopitar 14%

Matthews at 14,3%

And people saying the fact dubas signed matthews only 5 season is trash... seriously for me its maybe the best thing who could happened to leafs...

if he would sign 8 year deal at the beggining he would ask more than his actual AAV taking in consideration he would be at his prime with higher salary cap... so maybe 12,3 so around15,1 % of salary cap

.yes maybe in next 3-4 season, he will more money but if leafs had a chance to convince matthews to sign a 13M/8 year this summer. His cap hit will already be at 14,9% of team cap hit and maybe after first 4 season it will be around 13,6 and maybe at the end will be around 12%

Its whats matter in those kind of contract, % of salary cap... its whats player/agent using for his negociation for NHL stars. Not the total of money but % of salary cap

So yes maybe 13,5M look like a lot but i give you an exemple... projection of cap hit ln 2025 is around 91-92 M... if Mcdavid resign about the same % of salary hit than his last contract...we will talk about a 15,2M contract and 13M would be the same % of salary cap than right now...

Right now 13M look like a lot but in 3-4 with everyone anticipating salary cap raising pretty fast...it will not be that much..so get a chance to resign matthews before salary cap make a huge jump... i think its just an amaizing chance

The complaint is he got an 8 yr AAV on a 5 yr deal.

And his hand is out again.

 

[thusk]

The complaint is he got an 8 yr AAV on a 5 yr deal.

And his hand is out again.

No a 8 yr AAV on 5 yr deal would look like actual mackinnon AAV for 5 year

Matthews signed 2,4% of salary cap above mcdavid. Just reducing this number a 1,4% above mcdavid for 8 year = 12,4M of AAV...

The rhing who made matthews/marner contract look worst is pandemic... the salary cap stay the same, so contract stay lower than whats expected in 2019 when both signed

 

[ToneDog]

Just like that

Mcdavid signed at 16,7% of salary cap/ 8
Mackinnon 15,5^/ 8 ans
Kopitar 14%

Matthews at 14,3%

And people saying the fact dubas signed matthews only 5 season is trash... seriously for me its maybe the best thing who could happened to leafs...

if he would sign 8 year deal at the beggining he would ask more than his actual AAV taking in consideration he would be at his prime with higher salary cap... so maybe 12,3 so around15,1 % of salary cap

.yes maybe in next 3-4 season, he will more money but if leafs had a chance to convince matthews to sign a 13M/8 year this summer. His cap hit will already be at 14,9% of team cap hit and maybe after first 4 season it will be around 13,6 and maybe at the end will be around 12%

Its whats matter in those kind of contract, % of salary cap... its whats player/agent using for his negociation for NHL stars. Not the total of money but % of salary cap

So yes maybe 13,5M look like a lot but i give you an exemple... projection of cap hit ln 2025 is around 91-92 M... if Mcdavid resign about the same % of salary hit than his last contract...we will talk about a 15,2M contract and 13M would be the same % of salary cap than right now...

Right now 13M look like a lot but in 3-4 with everyone anticipating salary cap raising pretty fast...it will not be that much..so get a chance to resign matthews before salary cap make a huge jump... i think its just an amaizing chance

He would not be bending Tre over now if Dubas had signed him for 11.640x8. In no world is 70+ point player worth what he got from Dubas and for 5 years with 30+m in the first two years and buyout proof and with a NMC in the last year. Had he signed for 8 years he'd be up in 3 years, Tavares would be off the books and Marner would have gone to bat before him. Time to smell the coffee.

 

[thusk]

He would not be bending Tre over now if Dubas had signed him for 11.640x8. In no world is 70+ point player worth what he got from Dubas and for 5 years with 30+m in the first two years and buyout proof and with a NMC in the last year. Had he signed for 8 years he'd be up in 3 years, Tavares would be off the books and Marner would have gone to bat before him. Time to smell the coffee.

Read my last post

Whats make all those contract look worst is pandemic. Being unstead of increasing salary cap stay the same for 4 years and every contract signed after 2019 was lower than expected when everyone signed their contract

 

[ToneDog]

Read my last post

Whats make all those contract look worst is pandemic. Being unstead of increasing salary cap stay the same for 4 years and every contract signed after 2019 was lower than expected when everyone signed their contract

Agree COVID hurt them but contracts were still bad. Given where we are, who would be angry if Matty agreed to the MacKinnnon deal + $100K ? As much as I love Matty, he does not deserve to be making more money than MacKinnon and McDavid. For the so-called leader of this team, he has achieved virtually zero payoff success. If he was humble he would take $100K more than MacKinnon. Can't wait to see what he decides.

 

[Albz]

It's the opposite for me. The more years he accepts, the higher the AAV I'm okay with the team giving him. No chance am I letting him cash large on a short deal only to take his money and bounce in 3 years. I'll pay for loyalty. If he's not committed to the Leafs long term, then he can get bent.

I feel like after 4 years, Matthew's will decline alot. This is why I say sign him lower average if he wants long term.

 

[Nineteen67]

No a 8 yr AAV on 5 yr deal would look like actual mackinnon AAV for 5 year

Matthews signed 2,4% of salary cap above mcdavid. Just reducing this number a 1,4% above mcdavid for 8 year = 12,4M of AAV...

The rhing who made matthews/marner contract look worst is pandemic... the salary cap stay the same, so contract stay lower than whats expected in 2019 when both signed

Only in Toronto would it look like that.

The complaints started the day his contract was announced, oddly enough, some predicted they would be in the exact spot they're in now.

 

[thusk]

Only in Toronto would it look like that.

The complaints started the day his contract was announced, oddly enough, some predicted they would be in the exact spot they're in now.

Like i said contract look worst because of pandemic... if thsts doesnt happenned maybe actual cap hit would be like 91-92M like projected in 2 year

So maybe unstead of a 10M contract, Barkov would signed at 11-11,5
Tkachuk at 10,5M-11M
huberdeau at 11,5M-12M
Mackinnon maybe at 14M
Gaudreau at 11-11,5MM

 

[Apex Predator]

The way the world is with inflation hurting everyone what if that slows the cap from going up? What if we go to a recession if we’re not in one already? The way the economy is we need to be careful in assuming the cap is going to go up.

 

[myleafs]

The way the world is with inflation hurting everyone what if that slows the cap from going up? What if we go to a recession if we’re not in one already? The way the economy is we need to be careful in assuming the cap is going to go up.

Fool me once as they say

 

[diceman934]

Rumor is 13.75 cap hit for 8 years. No discount

 

[myleafs]

Rumor is 13.75 cap hit for 8 years. No discount

Pretty sure theres more than a few here who feel like that is a discount.

 

[ToneDog]

Pretty sure theres more than a few here who feel like that is a discount.

$1+m more than MacKinnon who delivered a SC. We are never winning with idiots controlling the purse strings and me first leaders. On a positive note, he would be buying in for 8 more years but with our luck he will need a bionic wrist in year 3.

 

[myleafs]

$1+m more than MacKinnon who delivered a SC. We are never winning with idiots controlling the purse strings and me first leaders. On a positive note, he would be buying in for 8 more years but with our luck he will need a bionic wrist in year 3.

For sure...you know something like thats happening or he slips on moustache conditioner and tears his knee up.

 

[ToneDog]

For sure...you know something like thats happening or he slips on moustache conditioner and tears his knee up.

Willie and Mitch will be licking their lips seeing 34 sign for 13.75mx8. Willie says, I am at least 70% as good as Matty, I'll take $10mx8. Mitch will say I lead the team in scoring just about every year, but I'll give you a discount and take 90%, $12.5m. Then come playoff time, they will as the David Kampfs on the team to sacrifice their bodies and score a goal.

Meanwhile, in Boston, Pasta will be kicking dirt because he settled for $11.250x8.

 

[myleafs]

Willie and Mitch will be licking their lips seeing 34 sign for 13.75mx8. Willie says, I am at least 70% as good as Matty, I'll take $10mx8. Mitch will say I lead the team in scoring just about every year, but I'll give you a discount and take 90%, $12.5m. Then come playoff time, they will as the David Kampfs on the team to sacrifice their bodies and score a goal.

Meanwhile, in Boston, Pasta will be kicking dirt because he settled for $11.250x8.

I think it was Pasta on his last deal said along the lines...im happy, how much money do I really need.

 

[ToneDog]

I think it was Pasta on his last deal said along the lines...im happy, how much money do I really need.

He may have been trolling Leafs fans. The Bruins seem to enjoy that.

 

[ToDavid]

Rumor is 13.75 cap hit for 8 years. No discount

There is no rumour.

 

[WTFMAN99]

$1+m more than MacKinnon who delivered a SC. We are never winning with idiots controlling the purse strings and me first leaders. On a positive note, he would be buying in for 8 more years but with our luck he will need a bionic wrist in year 3.

Yea that's where I arrived at

McDavid and MacKinnon 12.5 and 12.6M

Matthews has neither the individual hardware or the cup going from him here. He's flat out not as good and wasn't even a top 10 player this last season.

"But cap is going up, cap %s yada yada"

Okay - did Bratt get more than Rantanen? No? Because other teams aren't stupid.

Rantanen is a much better player and it doesn't matter that Bratt happened to sign later.

 

[Gabriel426]

To be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with our big guns during the Tampa series either. Matthews big comeback performance in Game 4 was sort of his signature moment. But he was quiet that series up until the second half of that game before he came to life. Scored in the next game and the series winner but it wasn't exactly like he was Draisaitl.

That’s true but great players are great bc they only need a moment to make the difference. Ofcourse we want them to dominate the game and series but at the end of the day, if they are clutch, they only need one chance to score.

 

[Sypher04]

Yea that's where I arrived at

McDavid and MacKinnon 12.5 and 12.6M

Matthews has neither the individual hardware or the cup going from him here. He's flat out not as good and wasn't even a top 10 player this last season.

"But cap is going up, cap %s yada yada"

Okay - did Bratt get more than Rantanen? No? Because other teams aren't stupid.

Rantanen is a much better player and it doesn't matter that Bratt happened to sign later.

Stanley cups have never driven player salaries. Players are and always have been paid based on their individual accomplishments and projections. As far as MacKinnon vs Matthews, Auston is younger and more decorated individually, so not sure how you arrive at your conclusion.

If your insinuation is MacKinnon is a much better player than Matthews you’re simply wrong

 

[pcruz]

I don’t want them to commit long term if these wrist issues are chronic. Hopefully they have competent medical staff to figure that out.

You think the Leafs medical staff are incompetent?

 

[Trapper]

Willie and Mitch will be licking their lips seeing 34 sign for 13.75mx8. Willie says, I am at least 70% as good as Matty, I'll take $10mx8. Mitch will say I lead the team in scoring just about every year, but I'll give you a discount and take 90%, $12.5m. Then come playoff time, they will as the David Kampfs on the team to sacrifice their bodies and score a goal.

Meanwhile, in Boston, Pasta will be kicking dirt because he settled for $11.250x8.

If Matthews gets 13.75, no way I see Marner less than 13 million. Right now Marner makes about 700K less. And then Nylander for 10. Huberdeau was paid 10.5 by Treliving.
Good luck.