News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[hockeywiz542]

Dreger on Keefe's looming extension, Matthews' contract talks ramping up and more - TSN.ca

TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger joins First Up to discuss the chatter around Sheldon Keefe nearing an extension with the Maple Leafs, Auston Matthews' contract talks ramping up, the future of Matt Murray with the blue and white, Philadelphia Flyers set to make significant moves and more.

 

[IPS]

Matthews doesn't do 2nd. rounds.

He did however score 1 goal in 7 games against Montreal.

The series against Florida it was marner's job to score 1 goal.

Montreal series - M&M 1 goal
Florida series - M&M 1 goal

Inflation is affecting everything.

Yeah our core really is just that f***ing pathetic in the playoffs.

 

[thusk]

No it didnt. Outside of a couple shots by matthews our 3 looked pedestrian in the first two periods.


It happens all the time.. this team has spurts when they freak out about losing.. then they lead or tie it and the intensity creeps back down to blah

Last 2 season

Trail 1 207 18,1%
Trail 2 + 237 20,1
Even 42%
Leading 220 19,2%

Leafs played more time trailing by 2+ than with a lead and the number of goal allowed in first 40 minutes are just too high...and yes maybe when they leading or finally tie it, intensity just drop a littlr bit but do you know how much energy you need to comeback pratically half of the time

Just as exemple, its stats when tampa eon their 1st cup
Trail 1 202 min 14,5%
Trail 2 + 33 min 2,4%
Even 47,8%
Leading 487 35%

 

[andora]

Last 2 season

Trail 1 207 18,1%
Trail 2 + 237 20,1
Even 42%
Leading 220 19,2%

Leafs played more time trailing by 2+ than with a lead and the number of goal allowed in first 40 minutes are just too high...and yes maybe when they leading or finally tie it, intensity just drop a littlr bit but do you know how much energy you need to comeback pratically half of the time

Just as exemple, its stats when tampa eon their 1st cup
Trail 1 202 min 14,5%
Trail 2 + 33 min 2,4%
Even 47,8%
Leading 487 35%

Man too much effort and overthinking..

The fact that they play that much trailing by 2.. THAT..

 

[hockeywiz542]

5 Questions for the NHL Offseason

NHL Network

June 15, 2023

The end of a season brings about change. Keith Irizarry and Scott Hartnell breakdown five questions facing teams this offseason.

Will Auston Matthews sign a contract extension?: 0:08

Scott Hartnell said:

"I don't know if he actually wants to be there, to be honest. I don't know this for a fact. I'm just kind of throwing it out there. There's a lot of pressure in Toronto, being one of the biggest names and best goal scorers in the NHL."

 

[Niagara Bill]

Is a verbal commitment legally binding....just wondering?

If there is a doubt you cannot trust him and his agent (like Dubas) then trading him should be your first option

 

[thusk]

Man too much effort and overthinking..

The fact that they play that much trailing by 2.. THAT..

The question should be why they trailing that much and giving up that much goal 1st 40.. and i can tell you the answer is not because core 4 didn't scored enought.

Its about goaltending, about defensive group, defensive game as a team/ how much foward had been involve...

 

[geo25]

If there is a doubt you cannot trust him and his agent (like Dubas) then trading him should be your first option

Agreed

 

[MCR74]

Is a verbal commitment legally binding....just wondering?

Absolutely not.

 

[ToneDog]

Is a verbal commitment legally binding....just wondering?

If you are dealing with Vito Corleone it is binding. With Shanny, I can see him at the presser outlining the series of events that led to no Matthews extension.

 

[Albz]

Lol this fan base and their obsession with other team players. Tkachuk sucked ass all those playoff years in flames. He does decent this year and you all go nuts and call him God lol. It reminds me of Nylander situation. Where you all wanted him gone and called him trash, than this year he has amazing year and everyone loves him.

Matthew's is an elite goal scorer. Give him a short term deal, if we can't win in those years, let him walk or trade him. If he stays short term, I wouldn't mind paying g him 14m per. But if he wants 8 years, nothing over 13m per.

 

[geo25]

If you are dealing with Vito Corleone it is binding. With Shanny, I can see him at the presser outlining the series of events that led to no Matthews extension.

Haha...good one...lol

 

[andora]

The question should be why they trailing that much and giving up that much goal 1st 40.. and i can tell you the answer is not because core 4 didn't scored enought.

Its about goaltending, about defensive group, defensive game as a team/ how much foward had been involve...

Right.. so in a nutshell it is how they play and how they have consistebtly failed to dictate the play from game to game. The theme is consistent - we do not dictate how the opponent has to play but the opposite

 

[notbias]

Shills trying to discredit Tkachuk's playoff using his previous not so good playoffs to defend Matty and Mitch. Give it up, you are embarrassing yourselves, you have zero credibility, and are wasting your time because anybody with half a brain knows Tkachuk knocked it out of the park these playoffs.

Do yourself and everybody a favour and stop.

Tkachuk was good in half the series he played in this year, really good, he had a great overall performance this playoffs.

But I think it is embarrassing to pretend all his other years don't matter, and I can guarantee our stars will not get the same treatment (Matthews was good in 1/2 his series this year too).

 

[Gabriel426]

Tkachuk was good in half the series he played in this year, really good, he had a great overall performance this playoffs.

But I think it is embarrassing to pretend all his other years don't matter, and I can guarantee our stars will not get the same treatment (Matthews was good in 1/2 his series this year too).

If AM or MM or Willie or JT scored those big goals like Tkachuk and lead the Leafs to Cup Finals, then got injured for an huge hit and couldn’t be effective. I don’t think anyone would care about what they didn’t do the past 7 years in playoffs. No doubt will we be disappointed and some will say they didn’t deliver but most will be like, they are close and let’s run it back….

AM and MM are better players than Tkachuk but Tkachuk had a much better playoffs.

This is pro sports, nobody care about the past as long as you win. Does anyone care about Eichel’s past now that he is a Cup Champs and actually put up good stats in playoffs?
Do you think anyone will care if AM and MM got new deals at 15mil each if they win a Cup with the Leafs?

Call it what it is instead of finding excuses to defend our top guys. They deserve praise when they do well and deserve criticism when they couldn’t deliver

 

[thusk]

Right.. so in a nutshell it is how they play and how they have consistebtly failed to dictate the play from game to game. The theme is consistent - we do not dictate how the opponent has to play but the opposite

But How you want to dictate game when your allowing goal in 1st 40 min in a rate of 3,55/60 minutes

How do you want to dictate when youre goalie already gave up a weak goal if not 2 in first 10 min . How do you want to dictate when youre taking a 2 goal lead fast and your goalie broke it allowed 2 awful goal next 10

Just as exemple leafs allowed 7 (rate of 3,81/60) goal in 1st 10 minute... 4 of those goal in 3 different game was pretty bad and never should goes in.. result leafs trailed on those 3 game and they lost all of those 3 game without being able to get any lead at any time during the game... its 50% of leafs lost this playoff started with goaltending struggle in 1st 10 minutes...

 

[Gabriel426]

But How you want to dictate game when your allowing goal in 1st 40 min in a rate of 3,55/60 minutes

How do you want to dictate when youre goalie already gave up a weak goal if not 2 in first 10 min . How do you want to dictate when youre taking a 2 goal lead fast and your goalie broke it allowed 2 awful goal next 10

Just as exemple leafs allowed 7 (rate of 3,81/60) goal in 1st 10 minute... 4 of those goal in 3 different game was pretty bad and never should goes in.. result leafs trailed on those 3 game and they lost all of those 3 game without being able to get any lead at any time during the game... its 50% of leafs lost this playoff started with goaltending struggle in 1st 10 minutes...

Maybe the Leafs should score in the first 10mins like the other team.
Not saying you are wrong but you can’t blame that solely on goaltending when the team as a whole don’t start on time or come out firing like the other team. The Leafs could had set the tone of the game the moment the puck is dropped but how often is that the case?

 

[ToneDog]

Tkachuk was good in half the series he played in this year, really good, he had a great overall performance this playoffs.

But I think it is embarrassing to pretend all his other years don't matter, and I can guarantee our stars will not get the same treatment (Matthews was good in 1/2 his series this year too).

You are selling him short. He was exceptional vs Boston and Carolina. Indifferent vs Toronto and was good vs Vegas until the hit. His first two playoffs, he was MEH but he is trending in the right direction.

 

[andora]

But How you want to dictate game when your allowing goal in 1st 40 min in a rate of 3,55/60 minutes

How do you want to dictate when youre goalie already gave up a weak goal if not 2 in first 10 min . How do you want to dictate when youre taking a 2 goal lead fast and your goalie broke it allowed 2 awful goal next 10

Just as exemple leafs allowed 7 (rate of 3,81/60) goal in 1st 10 minute... 4 of those goal in 3 different game was pretty bad and never should goes in.. result leafs trailed on those 3 game and they lost all of those 3 game without being able to get any lead at any time during the game... its 50% of leafs lost this playoff started with goaltending struggle in 1st 10 minutes...

Jesus quit tripping over loonies to pick up dimes.. you have to get past this and acknowledge a greater issue. The goalie f***s up and gives up a goal - why does that automatically determine the team cant play a certain way

What do all successful teams go through and say? Trust the process, all buy in and stick to gameplan. If you are playing on your toes and dictating the games goals will go in regardless IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE - you play the same way..

It is like i am reading this as an excuse to say.. shit there is the bad goal.. lets see what they do now and we will react.. this coupled with how mundane of a game this team plays go together

 

[ToneDog]

Lol this fan base and their obsession with other team players. Tkachuk sucked ass all those playoff years in flames. He does decent this year and you all go nuts and call him God lol. It reminds me of Nylander situation. Where you all wanted him gone and called him trash, than this year he has amazing year and everyone loves him.

Matthew's is an elite goal scorer. Give him a short term deal, if we can't win in those years, let him walk or trade him. If he stays short term, I wouldn't mind paying g him 14m per. But if he wants 8 years, nothing over 13m per.

Yup wake me up when one of the 3 amigos takes us to the SCF.

 

[Nineteen67]

Jesus quit tripping over loonies to pick up dimes.. you have to get past this and acknowledge a greater issue. The goalie f***s up and gives up a goal - why does that automatically determine the team cant play a certain way

What do all successful teams go through and say? Trust the process, all buy in and stick to gameplan. If you are playing on your toes and dictating the games goals will go in regardless IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE - you play the same way..

It is like i am reading this as an excuse to say.. shit there is the bad goal.. lets see what they do now and we will react.. this coupled with how mundane of a game this team plays go together

Goalie letting in a softie shouldn’t mean the D is too slow to win a puck battle. But that has happened since the Gardiner years.

 

[andora]

Goalie letting in a softie shouldn’t mean the D is too slow to win a puck battle. But that has happened since the Gardiner years.

Our defence arent battlers.. only one we had was schenn. Mccabe maybe gets there after shaking off playing for gutter rat teams for years.. but our defence lacks compete, physical presence and strength which contradicts not havimg a top tier goalie and contradicts how the forwards play

 

[Boxscore]

If we pay Matthews 13.5 or 14 mil a year, it'll be the same disappointing post seasons, over and over and over and over again.

 

[notbias]

You are selling him short. He was exceptional vs Boston and Carolina. Indifferent vs Toronto and was good vs Vegas until the hit. His first two playoffs, he was MEH but he is trending in the right direction.

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He was not good vs Vegas.

He had a great playoff overall, not trying to take that away from him.

Pretending like he is some playoff beast is just comical, that is all.

I think people just point to him and say "See, it isn't just you have it or you don't".

Bobrovsky is another good example, he has been terrible minus this year and one other.

We've just never had all the stars align for our team like Florida did this year, normally one player plays great, not all 3/4, which I agree is a problem, I just don't think it is a lack of effort or anything. Just like Tkachuk sucking for most of his career in the playoffs is not for a lack of effort or his play style.

 

[authentic]

He was not good vs Vegas.

He had a great playoff overall, not trying to take that away from him.

Pretending like he is some playoff beast is just comical, that is all.

I think people just point to him and say "See, it isn't just you have it or you don't".

Bobrovsky is another good example, he has been terrible minus this year and one other.

We've just never had all the stars align for our team like Florida did this year, normally one player plays great, not all 3/4, which I agree is a problem, I just don't think it is a lack of effort or anything. Just like Tkachuk sucking for most of his career in the playoffs is not for a lack of effort or his play style.

Also Bobrovky was really good for exactly 2 rounds, he wasn't anything special against Boston and was horrible against Vegas