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News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

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Sypher04 said:
You realize that even a ton of nhl captains have been caught doing on camera at some point or another, right?



It’s great PR. That’s about it. You saying you honestly think Bratt is worth more than already north of $8M?
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I believe most are UFA years so he could be worth a bit more if he pushed. I'd say it was fair but many on the main board think it is a good deal. Either way Fitz is right, players need to leave some crumbs for the depth players.
 
BallardEra said:
Who said it's a fact? Just playing out all possible scenarios.
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My apologies, I misread your post. There’s just been a lot of people passing off speculation and rumor as fact lately, but your post didn’t do this

It’s been a long week
 
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Sypher04 said:
My apologies, I misread your post. There’s just been a lot of people passing off speculation and rumor as fact lately, but your post didn’t.
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All good man and no offence taken! It's so hard to predict what his camp will settle on. For all we know Treliving might be able to sell him on a long term vision. Nobody truly knows what Matthews is feeling on the inside.

Time will tell.
 
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Mess said:
The Leafs should offer Matthews a concrete 8 year @ $12.7 mil deal making him the highest paid player in the NHL, and then leak that news to James Mirtle, Chris Johnston and Jonas Siegel for them to report on it.

Then lets watch the Matthews/agent response and future actions and the forum up public opinion among the fan base decide where they stand.
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And if I'm the Matthews camp, I don't sign that deal, and then leak it to the world that Toronto is willing to lose the best player the franchise has ever had, over the difference in salary of the league minimum.

And then allow you to try and attract players to a franchise that has high taxes and also treats players well as long as they can take advantage of them, but turns on them at the drop of a hat.

Matthews then goes on to sign whatever deal he wants in one of a dozen places he chooses, and Toronto struggles to attract free agents or star players going forward.

It's one of those "cut off your nose to spite your face" type of deals.

They work out really, really well!!
 
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therealkoho said:
With the right guys around him, he's a much different player.

Did you watch his memorial cup run with the Knights. He led his team, I mean truly led them, he scored something like 3 points a game throughout the playoffs. He was surrounded with the right players, players that didn't give up on pucks, took hits to make plays

When Matthews slumps they always put Mitch on his wing to get him going again, it always works and that's fine in the regular season.

In the playoffs though when Matthews does the disappearing act because of the tough going, sure Mitchs' points are going to disappear too.

I didn't see any of that 200 foot Matthews against Florida. What are you supposed to do when the main cog on your line isn't functioning, isn't participating. What happens is you end up being outmanned two or three to one in the Ozone. There aren't many guys that have ever played in the NHL that can beat those odds.
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So that leaves us with what exactly?

A dependent and a fader. Matthews stops scoring when it gets rough and Marner becomes pedestrian. So what is the solution? Trade the goal scoring C so that the winger can get a more hard nosed group around him?

May as well blow it all up then if I am reading this situation right, and I think I am. Trade them both maybe keep Nylander for his McDavid like speed,
 
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pcruz said:
And if I'm the Matthews camp, I don't sign that deal, and then leak it to the world that Toronto is willing to lose the best player the franchise has ever had, over the difference in salary of the league minimum.

And then allow you to try and attract players to a franchise that has high taxes and also treats players well as long as they can take advantage of them, but turns on them at the drop of a hat.

Matthews then goes on to sign whatever deal he wants in one of a dozen places he chooses, and Toronto struggles to attract free agents or star players going forward.

It's one of those "cut off your nose to spite your face" type of deals.

They work out really, really well!!
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I'm sorry, but you're suggesting that free agents are going to turn against a franchise that gave their recent crop of stars extremely friendly contracts and has a reputation for treating players extremely well, because they're only offering to make Matthews the highest paid player in the league?

This is an insane fantasy.
 
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pcruz said:
And if I'm the Matthews camp, I don't sign that deal, and then leak it to the world that Toronto is willing to lose the best player the franchise has ever had, over the difference in salary of the league minimum.

And then allow you to try and attract players to a franchise that has high taxes and also treats players well as long as they can take advantage of them, but turns on them at the drop of a hat.

Matthews then goes on to sign whatever deal he wants in one of a dozen places he chooses, and Toronto struggles to attract free agents or star players going forward.

It's one of those "cut off your nose to spite your face" type of deals.

They work out really, really well!!
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What option do the Leafs have? If the Leafs don't play hardball, they are going to go from have 4 players making half the Salary Cap to 3 players making half the Salary Cap - both Marner and Nylander are watching / waiting for a raise.
 
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ToDavid said:
I'm sorry, but you're suggesting that free agents are going to turn against a franchise that gave their recent crop of stars extremely friendly contracts and has a reputation for treating players extremely well, because they're only offering to make Matthews the highest paid player in the league?

This is an insane fantasy.
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Exactly
This organization is too nice!
 
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Despite lacklustre playoff success, Matthews still has a Hart trophy and back to back Rockets in his corner as negotiating points.

The only recent comps are Pasta and Mackinnon. Mackinnon signed for 15.24% of the cap. The higher of the two. Mack does not have the regular season accolades, asides from the Calder but he has the playoff success.

Factoring all of that in Matthews fair market value is no high that Mackinnons, so 15.24% over 8 years is $12.73 mill. Any higher and it’s an overpayment from Toronto. And if he takes less, he’s being more team friendly.

Now should the Leafs re-sign? Well we have seen talent leave Toronto and have success elsewhere, and if Matthews can figure it out then the Leafs would immediately regret the deal. It’s a gamble, but I think you take the gamble on the big bodied centre at a premium position.

That being said I support a core change so this means moving either Nylander or Marner, JT is tougher to move
 
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BertCorbeau said:
Despite lacklustre playoff success, Matthews still has a Hart trophy and back to back Rockets in his corner as negotiating points.

The only recent comps are Pasta and Mackinnon. Mackinnon signed for 15.24% of the cap. The higher of the two. Mack does not have the regular season accolades, asides from the Calder but he has the playoff success.

Factoring all of that in Matthews fair market value is no high that Mackinnons, so 15.24% over 8 years is $12.73 mill. Any higher and it’s an overpayment from Toronto. And if he takes less, he’s being more team friendly.

Now should the Leafs re-sign? Well we have seen talent leave Toronto and have success elsewhere, and if Matthews can figure it out then the Leafs would immediately regret the deal. It’s a gamble, but I think you take the gamble on the big bodied centre at a premium position.

That being said I support a core change so this means moving either Nylander or Marner, JT is tougher to move
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Agreed
Sign AM if it's not silly
Then you almost have to trade MM because we know how his negotiations are handled
 
pcruz said:
And if I'm the Matthews camp, I don't sign that deal, and then leak it to the world that Toronto is willing to lose the best player the franchise has ever had, over the difference in salary of the league minimum.

And then allow you to try and attract players to a franchise that has high taxes and also treats players well as long as they can take advantage of them, but turns on them at the drop of a hat.

Matthews then goes on to sign whatever deal he wants in one of a dozen places he chooses, and Toronto struggles to attract free agents or star players going forward.

It's one of those "cut off your nose to spite your face" type of deals.

They work out really, really well!!
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Which players were the Leafs taking advantage of?
 
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BallardEra said:
Kyper was saying that if Matthews does 8 years then his agent would want $14-15 million per.
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That is insane. Just trade him - which would be so much easier if he had 2 years left instead of one. Thanks Dubas.

sunstersun said:
I'd take it at 14.
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And then Marner wants $12.5M and Nylander wants $10M, and 3 players are making $36.5M.

Where do you draw the line?
 
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I’d be okay with 8x14.34. Let the Tavares contract run out, sign him to a hometown discount and the cap will be over 100M in no time with an elite #1C.
 
leafsfan2point0 said:
I’d be okay with 8x14.34. Let the Tavares contract run out, sign him to a hometown discount and the cap will be over 100M in no time with an elite #1C.
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Why even sign Tavares to a hometown discount?
Let him go and get some younger players in there who can get you to where you want to go.
 
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