hullsy47
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Dreger says they have had no meeting .maybe dregs only negotiates for the marner family
Fixed it for you.All of the potential terms would have been "gambles".
With a 3 year bridge, we would have been re-signing him right before his Rocket/Hart/Lindsay MVP season, and he could have just walked to UFA a year later.
With an 8 year deal, we would have had even less space to surround Matthews and the core through this flat cap.
5 years is a super common post-ELC term for that caliber of player for a reason.
If that were leaked, fans would react like they did when details of the offer Marner was rejecting were leaked. Not a good look for Matty but this guy seems to be more bulletproof than Marner IMO.Be interesting to know where Fans stand on this issue.
If the Leafs offered Matthews an 8 year deal @ $12.7 mil AAV (making him the highest paid player in the NHL) =$101,600,000 contract / 8 years.
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Matthews returns with 3-4 years @ $14 mil per
Would you side with the Leafs organization or the player Matthews?
[Meaning would you like the Leafs to made a sound and fair business decision and live with it and trade Auston if necessary or Sign Matthews at any cost to keep him?
Team Toronto or Team Auston in these contract talks!!!
Side with the team all day. Matthews has done nothing compared to the other top paid players to deserve that kind of money. Matthews should be paid more than Mackinnon? He's a diva if he thinks so and he can gtfo.Be interesting to know where Fans stand on this issue.
If the Leafs offered Matthews an 8 year deal @ $12.7 mil AAV (making him the highest paid player in the NHL) =$101,600,000 contract / 8 years.
&
Matthews returns with 3-4 years @ $14 mil per
Would you side with the Leafs organization or the player Matthews?
[Meaning would you like the Leafs to made a sound and fair business decision and live with it and trade Auston if necessary or Sign Matthews at any cost to keep him?
Team Toronto or Team Auston in these contract talks!!!
A 3 year bridge would have ended after the 2021-2022 season. His 2020-2021 season was top tier as well anyway.Fixed it for you.
Be interesting to know where Fans stand on this issue.
If the Leafs offered Matthews an 8 year deal @ $12.7 mil AAV (making him the highest paid player in the NHL) =$101,600,000 contract / 8 years.
&
Matthews returns with 3-4 years @ $14 mil per
Would you side with the Leafs organization or the player Matthews?
[Meaning would you like the Leafs to made a sound and fair business decision and live with it and trade Auston if necessary or Sign Matthews at any cost to keep him?
Team Toronto or Team Auston in these contract talks!!!
Be interesting to know where Fans stand on this issue.
If the Leafs offered Matthews an 8 year deal @ $12.7 mil AAV (making him the highest paid player in the NHL) =$101,600,000 contract / 8 years.
&
Matthews returns with 3-4 years @ $14 mil per
Would you side with the Leafs organization or the player Matthews?
[Meaning would you like the Leafs to made a sound and fair business decision and live with it and trade Auston if necessary or Sign Matthews at any cost to keep him?
Team Toronto or Team Auston in these contract talks!!!
Correct in which case they would have been trying to sign him before his 60 goal season not after as you claimed.A 3 year bridge would have ended after the 2021-2022 season.
Would be totally shocked if he signed for 8 years.
I'd be fine with 13.34 x 8 tbh.
Matthews would not have been UFA in 2022.Correct at which point you'd be walking him to free agency.
Signing a pending UFA to an early extension and signing a player on a bridge to an early extension are not exactly the same things with the same urgency. We can't just assume that Matthews would have signed after the 2nd year of his bridge. But as I pointed out, it doesn't change much, because Matthews was a top tier player that paced for 65 goals in 2020-2021 too. Point is, a bridge would have just meant we were paying him more sooner.Leafs would have tried resigning him at the end of the 20-21 season when he had one year to go on the 3 year bridge just like they are trying to sig him now with one year to go on his 5 year deal.
So if he wants a shorter term deal as the insiders claim, what would the AAV be for 3,4, or 5 years ? If his ask was $14x8 his last time up as the insiders speculated, and it got reduced to $11.640mx5, we should have an easy deal July 1.An 8 year deal probably comes in at 17% of the cap or somewhere around there if I had to guess. So like 14.2 mill a year.
Leafs haters on the heavy copium already now that they're starting to realize their Matthews leaving Toronto wet dream probably won't become reality.
Matty would have been a UFA at the end of a 3 year bridge coming off a 60 goal season. That would have put the Leafs in the same spot they are today as they would have been at the end of the 20/21 season.Matthews would not have been UFA in 2022.
Signing a pending UFA to an early extension and signing a player on a bridge to an early extension are not exactly the same things with the same urgency. We can't just assume that Matthews would have signed after the 2nd year of his bridge. But as I pointed out, it doesn't change much, because Matthews was a top tier player that paced for 65 goals in 2020-2021 too. Point is, a bridge would have just meant we were paying him more sooner.
Maybe Treliving will be smart enough to know that Marner is dying to be a Leaf, and won't just bend over for him like Dubas did. Still blows my mind he did that when they were RFA's and had 0 leverage.It seems that when if you sign Matthews, you have to trade Marner.
Dubas messed up our cap. Thank God he's gone now.
Marner's dad keeps talking him into 'you're as good if not better than Matthews'. He even refused to sign until after Matthews so that he would get the same.
Leafs haters on the heavy copium already now that they're starting to realize their Matthews leaving Toronto wet dream probably won't become reality.
Be interesting to know where Fans stand on this issue.
If the Leafs offered Matthews an 8 year deal @ $12.7 mil AAV (making him the highest paid player in the NHL) =$101,600,000 contract / 8 years.
&
Matthews returns with 3-4 years @ $14 mil per
Would you side with the Leafs organization or the player Matthews?
[Meaning would you like the Leafs to made a sound and fair business decision and live with it and trade Auston if necessary or Sign Matthews at any cost to keep him?
Team Toronto or Team Auston in these contract talks!!!
Maybe? But we've heard from many different people that echo the same sentiment. There doesn't really seem to be urgency from their camp to extend or really verbally agree to a contract for July 1st.
It's pretty clear Matthews will very likely to re-sign based on everything. The bigger problem is the contract and how it looks like.
I'd like to not lose a top 5 player, so however that gets done.
Treliving has overpaid a lot of older players recently, I'd rather it be Matthews than ROR
Was Pasta looking for shorter term from the Bruins?? No idea, never followed those negotiations. What I heard after he signed is that Bruins did not want to pay his ask but he did not back down. Bruins still got a good deal for a player that outperformed his last deal and was about to score 60+ goals and set to become a UFA in a few months. IMO Pasta could have easily gotten more than Panarin if he waited until July 1st.where were these articles on Pastrnak? All we got told was he was a great team player for taking that 8 year contract...
where were these articles on Pastrnak? All we got told was he was a great team player for taking that 8 year contract...