Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

[Fatass]

Take a breath, relax, and post less.

Pointing out a fact. Bure help his team get to a game seven in the Cup Final of his second 60 goal season. Matthews is in his second 60 goal season. We shall see if his great regular season, like Bure, translates to his club’s playoff success.

 

[Senor Catface]

So 6 goals in 9 games to beat Oveckin's highest total? Should be close!

Pretty fun season for stat races.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Honestly, it would've been so interesting to watch Matthews play for a team that gets even league average PP opportunities every year. Not a team that is constantly in the bottom 4 or 5. His goal totals could've have been unbelievable. Low to mid 70's wouldn't have been out of the question.

Toronto simply don't get enough PPs for that to happen.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

100%. It’s just that it’s a game of inches. Despite unreal health luck, OV could never do it even twice. Esposito is the only person NOT named Matthews to do it at least twice outside the run and gun era.

He can for sure, it just isn’t easy.

You could argue Espo is the only one outside of the run and gun era since that's basically where we are now.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

45 even strength goals. let that sink in. Also can score in anyway shape or form.

Impressive. That's only been achieved 25 times in NHL history. 20 of which were between the mid 1970's and early 1990's.

(The only exceptions? Outside that period, we just have Phil Esposito twice, Pavel Bure, Steven Stamkos, and now Auston Matthews).

 

[Toby91ca]

No it was 92 powerplay one timers from the left dot through 644 career goals. That is right on NHL.com



He and Ovechkin could have hit 60 that year.

? Difference between 24 goals in 45 games and 41 goals in 52 games

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

You could argue Espo is the only one outside of the run and gun era since that's basically where we are now.

Not even close. Scoring was 15 - 30% higher. You have to go outside 1972 - 1994 to find a season as low as the highest of the past 5 seasons.

 

[authentic]

You could argue Espo is the only one outside of the run and gun era since that's basically where we are now.

Players had higher point totals in the 70s and it was a much more diluted and watered down league than now with far worse defense and especially goaltending.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Players had higher point totals in the 70s and it was a much more diluted and watered down league than now with far worse defense and especially goaltending.

From Hockeyreference the goal scoring in Esposito’s 60 goal seasons was:

3.12
3.07
3.20
3.43

During the 5 years Matthews has performed at a 60 goal pace it has been:

3.11
3.18
3.14
2.94
3.02

 

[Lilou]

Every hockey fan is extremely lucky to live in a time where AM is consistently 60 goals. He's going for 70 now. Watch him get a couple hattricks real soon. This guy is unreal.

 

[authentic]

From Hockeyreference the goal scoring in Esposito’s 60 goal seasons was:

3.12
3.07
3.20
3.43

During the 5 years Matthews has performed at a 60 goal pace it has been:

3.11
3.18
3.14
2.94
3.02

Half of the best players back then played for Boston, tons of players were in the WHA so there was very little parity, plus the massive expansion after the O6 era which already watered things down, no European's, etc. Literally there was a season where 7 of the league's top 10 scorers played for Boston lol

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yea, and earlier in the season he was on pace and easily capable to reach 70

Could/would is not the same thing as doing.

Yes but he's smashed 19 goals in 26 games multiple times.

You are talking about a man that scored 51 goals in a 50 game stretch during his first 60 goal season.

This time he had a stretch of 39 goals in 35 games.

19 goals in 26 games is not a question that's money in the bank.

This dude is on a different level than everybody else when it comes to goal scoring.

40 is a bad year for him.

 

[Ol' Jase]

“If we compare the years when Phil Esposito score 60 or more goals to the years when Matthews could have scored 60 goals but actually didn’t, it’s easy to see that Matthews is the superior player”.

You guys are honestly incredible.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Honestly, it would've been so interesting to watch Matthews play for a team that gets even league average PP opportunities every year. Not a team that is constantly in the bottom 4 or 5. His goal totals could've have been unbelievable. Low to mid 70's wouldn't have been out of the question.

Toronto simply don't get enough PPs for that to happen.

Imagine this was after the 2004 lockout?

Multiple teams getting 400+ powerplays

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

“If we compare the years when Phil Esposito score 60 or more goals to the years when Matthews could have scored 60 goals but actually didn’t, it’s easy to see that Matthews is the superior player”.

You guys are honestly incredible.

What are you on about?

 

[leafsfan5]

Impressive. That's only been achieved 25 times in NHL history. 20 of which were between the mid 1970's and early 1990's.

(The only exceptions? Outside that period, we just have Phil Esposito twice, Pavel Bure, Steven Stamkos, and now Auston Matthews).

This is probably the most impressive part of it all, and he'll lead the league in even-strength goals for the 5th time in 8 seasons. The only 3 seasons he didn't he was injured

Ovechkin has done it 5 times his entire career, Gretzky did it 4 times, Bossy 1 time. He's chasing Bobby Hull who has done it 6 times (which I believe is the record)

Matthews will likely end up the best even-strength goal scorer ever

 

[authentic]

This is probably the most impressive part of it all, and he'll lead the league in even-strength goals for the 5th time in 8 seasons. The only 3 seasons he didn't he was injured

Ovechkin has done it 5 times his entire career, Gretzky did it 4 times, Bossy 1 time. He's chasing Brett Hull who has done it 6 times (which I believe is the record)

Matthews will likely end up the best even-strength goal scorer ever

Bobby Hull he's chasing, but yes it's amazing that when he has been healthy, including his rookie season where he played 17:38 per game, he has led the NHL in even strength goals every time. That is remarkable enough on it's own but extra special because he actually plays a great two-way game unlike any of those other players.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

Guys have scored 40 and it hasn't been nearly as quiet at Austin's 60. In the context of the Leafs, he seems like a rich man's Phil Kessel.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Would be incredible if he goes 10 for 10 in his last 10 games and gets 70. Getting 2 more hat tricks would go a long way.

 

[Voight]

I haven't done/seen the math in a while but IIRC if he manages at least 85 points per season he'll pass Sundin for the franchise lead in points before his new contract expires.

 

[Mitch nylander]

I haven't done/seen the math in a while but IIRC if he manages at least 85 points per season he'll pass Sundin for the franchise lead in points before his new contract expires.

Let's say he finishes with what he's on pace for this year 107 points.

He'll be a 649 points in 561 games. Leaving him only 338 points between Mats.

He would need to average only 68 points a season over the next 5 years on his new deal to pass him.... He's passing him

 

[X66]

Honestly, it would've been so interesting to watch Matthews play for a team that gets even league average PP opportunities every year. Not a team that is constantly in the bottom 4 or 5. His goal totals could've have been unbelievable. Low to mid 70's wouldn't have been out of the question.

Toronto simply don't get enough PPs for that to happen.

If Babcock gave him normal PP time chances are Matthews wins the rocket as a rookie teenager…has that ever been done before?

What a lame coach!

 

[Voight]

Let's say he finishes with what he's on pace for this year 107 points.

He'll be a 649 points in 561 games. Leaving him only 338 points between Mats.

He would need to average only 68 points a season over the next 5 years on his new deal to pass him.... He's passing him

Not to nitpick but hes only under contract for 4 years not 5. (disregard if its a typo)

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Honestly, it would've been so interesting to watch Matthews play for a team that gets even league average PP opportunities every year. Not a team that is constantly in the bottom 4 or 5. His goal totals could've have been unbelievable. Low to mid 70's wouldn't have been out of the question.

Toronto simply don't get enough PPs for that to happen.

I gotta say it does seem odd how they don't get as many.

Sure sometimes it changes up based on players on a team but the Leafs seem to continuously be at the bottom.

Matthews line drives play it doesn't add up.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Not to nitpick but hes only under contract for 4 years not 5. (disregard if its a typo)

yea you're correct. I don't know why I assumed it was a 5 year deal. He'll need to average 84.5